YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[Canadian Mind]

second hand info. where could we look up the news report to confirm?

[mr.x]

the A380???? sweet!

[Hot Rod]

Originally Posted by The_Henry_Man

My dad just told me that according to tonight's Fairchild TV news, China Southern will be using Airbus 380 for the Guangzhou-Van route, next year.

I believe it. Given Vancouver's very significant ties with Guangdong and the fact that China Southern would be getting their A380's around 2009 - I'd think it would be a very good marketing pitch in this route.

Congrat's to Vancouver - keep 'em coming!!!

[mr.x]

Enhanced air service boosts Canada’s Pacific gateway
30 November 2007
Press Release



Transportation links between B.C. and the Asia Pacific were further enhanced today during Premier Gordon Campbell's mission to China as Cathay Pacific Airways announced it will add four new flights per week between Vancouver and Hong Kong, beginning March 30, 2008.

"Stronger air connections between B.C and the Asia Pacific are essential to forging economic partnerships, building tourism, and developing Vancouver as the North American centre for Asian commercial airlines," Campbell said. "Cathay Pacific's increased service will help us achieve our targets of 75 per cent growth in passengers and a doubling of air cargo moving through YVR by 2020, and further secure B.C.'s position as Canada's Pacific Gateway."

Today's announcement boosts the number of Cathay Pacific flights between Hong Kong and Vancouver, the airline's Canadian headquarters, to 21 from 17. The four new flights per week will see nearly 1,000 new passenger seats available per week, consistent with the Canada-Hong Kong bi-lateral air agreement.

"We're thrilled to be able to now offer triple-daily service to Vancouver, knowing it will further strengthen ties between Hong Kong and Canada," said Cathay Pacific Chief Executive Tony Tyler. "We look forward to continuing to support the growth of tourism and business development in B.C. and Canada, while providing convenient accessibility to our hub of Hong Kong, the important region of Mainland China and beyond."

This is the second time in less than five months that Cathay Pacific Airways has increased its air service between Hong Kong and Vancouver. Weekly flights were increased to 17 from 14 in July 2007. By March 2008, Cathay Pacific will offer three daily non-stop departures between Hong Kong and Vancouver, the same number as to Los Angeles and New York City, and one more than to San Francisco.

"China is one the fastest-growing sources of arrivals to Vancouver International Airport, and also one of the fastest-growing destinations for travellers flying out of YVR," said Tony Gugliotta, Vancouver Airport Authority's senior vice-president of marketing and commercial development. "Increased service between YVR and Hong Kong will mean greater convenience and more choice for thousands of travellers."

Hong Kong has long-established cultural ties with B.C. More than 500,000 people from Hong Kong live in Canada today, many residing in the Greater Vancouver area. Hong Kong is home to the largest Canadian business community in Asia, with more than 250,000 Canadian passport-holders living there. Approximately 150 Canadian companies maintain office branches or subsidies in Hong Kong and a further 450 are represented by distributors, agents, or joint venture partners.

More information on the Pacific Gateway Strategy, the Action Plan and the targets for 2020 is available online at www.pacificgateway.gov.bc.ca/. British Columbia’s Asia Pacific Initiative can be found at www.gov.bc.ca/ecdev.

[deasine]

Cathay Pacific will be doing a lot more in the coming years to improve the flights between Vancouver and Hong Kong because of Oasis Airlines now. Imagine if a third airline comes into the picture...

[Hot Rod]

Dragonair next?

Great news nonetheless!!! Go Gordon Campbell!!!!

[Bert]

I guess Campbell couldn't get China Eastern to budge though, which is too bad.

[mr.x]

Originally Posted by Bert

I guess Campbell couldn't get China Eastern to budge though, which is too bad.

in time, they'll come crawling back begging to be added...

[bbeliko]

The guys in seattle sould be so mad about this, YVR is getting The a380 and SEA Isn't

[Canadian Mind]

Who cares? Seattle can suck it.

[mr.x]

can sea even handle the a380?

[Hot Rod]

Originally Posted by mr.x2

can sea even handle the a380?

NOPE.

runways not manufactured for it, ramp not designed to handle it, no gates designed to accommodate it. This was in the press, SeaTac aint gonna get the A380 and they dont care either.

I think it can land - technically - at Boeing Field airport tho.

[mr.x]

Originally Posted by Hot Rod

NOPE.

runways not manufactured for it, ramp not designed to handle it, no gates designed to accommodate it. This was in the press, SeaTac aint gonna get the A380 and they dont care either.

I think it can land - technically - at Boeing Field airport tho.

YAY! SOMETHING WE HAVE AND THEY DON'T!

[Hourglass]

Originally Posted by Hot Rod

I believe it. Given Vancouver's very significant ties with Guangdong and the fact that China Southern would be getting their A380's around 2009 - I'd think it would be a very good marketing pitch in this route.

Congrat's to Vancouver - keep 'em coming!!!

Candidly, I'm a little skeptical that they'll use an A380 for regular service. Until Canada gets Approved Destination Status from China -- something that is unlikely given the current Federal Government's suspicion of the PRC. It simply doesn't make business sense. Cathay's 3X daily is perfectly logical given the strong family and business links, but Guangzhou?

By way of comparison, I understand China Eastern has been suffering from very low loads on the PVG-YVR route -- somewhere in the region of 60% or less. If loads are that low on flights to China's biggest commercial center, why would Guangzhou be any better (which incidentally also explains why China Eastern isn't going to increase service -- at least in the short run)?

[bbeliko]

Originally Posted by mr.x2

YAY! SOMETHING WE HAVE AND THEY DON'T!

Is that really the only thing Vancouver has and Seattle doesn't???

[muzhav84]

Air China Now Providing Enhanced Service To Canada
December 3, 2007
Air China has upgraded two of its routes, increasing its premium cabin service to eleven international routes, covering all of North America and most major cities in Europe.

In late October Air China added "Capital Pavilion" Business Class service to its Beijing-Vancouver route with new Airbus A330 wide-body aircraft, as well as premium three-cabin service to its Shanghai-Beijing-Paris route with Airbus A340 wide-body equipment. The premium cabin service features Air China's recently upgraded First Class, "Forbidden Pavilion," as well as Air China's lie-flat "Capital Pavilion" Business Class, in addition to traditional economy service.

"Air China is working hard to provide a global, high-quality airline that is well recognized by passengers, most valuable in China, most profitable in China, and competitive worldwide," said Lan Zhang, vice president of Air China. "By offering three excellent classes of onboard service across a strong global network, Air China is satisfying more and more passengers as it increasingly connects China to the world."

These new services now make Air China the highest quality airline from China servicing Canadian cities.

Air China has already launched upgraded premium-cabin A330/A340 service on nine international routes, including the three U.S. nonstops of Beijing-New York, Beijing-Los Angeles, and Beijing-San Francisco. In Europe six routes receive the Forbidden Pavilion and Capital Pavilion three-class service: Beijing-London, Beijing-Madrid-Sao Paulo, Shanghai-Milan-Rome, Shanghai-Paris, Beijing-Frankfurt, and Shanghai-Frankfurt.

[twoNeurons]

Considering like half of Seattle is employed by BOEING, what makes anyone think Seattle would really care if they never got the AIRBUS A380.

As an airplane fan, I'm looking forward to seeing the A380, but as a passenger, I'm more looking forward to the 787.

[SpongeG]

Non-stop Delhi-Vancouver flights announced

NEW DELHI, INDIA - Premier Gordon Campbell announced today that Kingfisher Airlines has committed to operate the first non-stop Delhi-Vancouver flights as soon as possible.

It's expected that the non-stop service will reduce travel time between Delhi and Vancouver from about 25 hours to 15 hours.

"Building better transportation links between B.C. and India will build on the already-close social, cultural and business relationships that exist between our two jurisdictions," said Campbell, after meeting with Dr. Vijay Mallya, Kingfisher Airlines' chairman and CEO, in Delhi.

"The convenience of direct, non-stop flights between Vancouver and Delhi will create a major benefit for our whole community."

Added Campbell, "It helps establish our gateway status for the world's two fastest-growing economies, China and India, while creating a vital link for our Indo-Canadian community, business,

investors from B.C. and our tourism industry."

Mallya said thousands of people traveling between B.C. and India every month will benefit from the direct service.

Tony Gugliotta, the Vancouver Airport Authority's senior vice-president of marketing and commercial development, said the service is integral to the Vancouver Gateway Strategy, as Delhi represents the largest market not served non-stop from Vancouver.

"We see the market as having enormous potential, not only through our cultural ties, but through increased business and tourism linkages," he said. "Non-stop service will greatly enhance the convenience and ease for travel between Delhi and Vancouver."

India was the second-highest source for immigrants settling in British Columbia in 2006. About 28 per cent of all Indian tourists to Canada arrived through Vancouver in 2006.

Earlier in Premier Campbell's mission to Asia, Cathy Pacific and China Southern Airlines announced increased air service between China and Vancouver.

Campbell is currently on his fourth mission to Asia.

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=e2d1ac8b-2b5c-4c4f-a894-be2a331a1dbf&k=6689

pic of a kingfisher plane - not bad



maybe it will be the A380? for such a long flight?

[mr.x]

^ sweet! but personally, i'd be scared to fly a trans-Pacific flight to India on anything smaller than a 747.

[The_Henry_Man]

15 hrs?? Premier Campbell must be VERY, VERY optimistic. A flight from Van to HK is already around 13.5hrs if it's a headwind flight, and it's around 1hr flight from HK to Taiwan.