YEG - Edmonton Int Airport

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Originally Posted by KrisYYC

Aslo, Westjet has no business class or anything, could you imagine some European business man flying in F class to YUL and then boards his Westjet flight by sock colour?

It would really be to WestJet's advantage. Their non-business class passengers have another way of getting outside of Canada. The loss comes to Air France in a sense that their business class passengers can't get onto a non-existent WJ business/first class flight. But coming back to your point about airlines making money, there is obviously enough incentive for AF to team up with WJ if they're talking about interlining. This is assuming the talks result in a deal.

[tuffyy]

Man oh man,lets not turn this into the ''my airports better than yours'' thread.YYC is a AC hub so we likely wont see much in the way of AC giving us the lead over YYC.Do I think the YEG-FRA route will come?Yes I do and it will likely be AC that will do it.Demand is strong from Edmonton but we are are also considered a strong feeder to YYC and thats what AC see's us for the most part.Do you really think YYC supplies all the pax through it's airport???And that YEG is not capable of doing so on its own?YYC has a hub that brings it passengers from across the west and oh the big feeder YEG...If AC didnt have the YYC hub things would be very,very diffirent...Dont forget we are still the fastest growing major airport in Canada and almost N.america for that matter,YYC is ahead in total numbers but the YEG gap shrinks year after year.That demand stretches far beyond YYC...Believe me.

[tuffyy]

Oh by the way folks the AN-225 Mriya,not the AN-124 arrives at 0330 on the 20th and departs later in the day....

[Coldrsx]

thought i would post a very simple airport overlay for all to see:

red is inner

yellow is outer

blues are approach for 34/29

[rapid_business]

again... can't see it.

[IKAN104]

I can see it ... Does that bright green dot have any significance? Is that your house Cold?

[ExcaliburKid]

I noticed that green dot too. Maybe thats the location of Pearl? If so, it looks like its out of the approach.....could it be done at 35 stories then?

[rapid_business]

Yeah. gotta be Pearl. Good to see they are out of the approach. Is the site already DC-2? Mind you, it would need to be adapted anyways with that hieght even if it was.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by tuffyy

Oh by the way folks the AN-225 Mriya,not the AN-124 arrives at 0330 on the 20th and departs later in the day....

Ok I'm am officially jealous of YEG now, I have been hoping to see this plane for years!!!

Here's a pic from this morning from over at a.net:
http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.file?id=536890077&filename=phpj0YjAA.jpg

[Coldrsx]

WICKED!


and yes that green dot is the "pearl"

[ExcaliburKid]

That is one sick looking plane What a monster!

[Bigtime]

I'll trade you the 225 for The Bow, seriously. The plane geek in me would probably lose control of my bowels to see that bad boy on approach and landing, not to mention takeoff!

[Coldrsx]

Jasper-Edmonton bus aims to boost tourism
Daily service from WEM a first step in effort to attract more Europeans
David Finlayson, edmontonjournal.com
Published: 1:47 pm

EDMONTON - It's just a 21-seater bus, but it's being touted as the first step in a major push to draw more tourists to Edmonton and Jasper.

The once-a-day service runs between Jasper, West Edmonton Mall and the international airport, and while it's geared primarily to European visitors arriving on Air Canada's London flights, the two communities hope locals will use it, too.

Mayor Stephen Mandel said the city hasn't done a good enough job promoting Jasper to the international market, as Calgary has with Banff, and the new shuttle is a first step in changing that.
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"Jasper is a wonderful place and we haven't taken advantage of it in the past. It's the key to attracting more Europeans."

"We need to be far more proactive, and stick with new programs like this and not quit after 20 minutes."

Jasper Mayor Richard Ireland is looking forward to more year-round international visitors, but hopes the shuttle will bring more Edmontonians to the mountains.

"We want Edmonton to recognize Jasper as its backyard. And we in Jasper access Edmonton for its services and cultural amenities. The shuttle will help both communities."

Ireland isn't concerned that more visitors will have a negative impact on the national park.

Better access will allow more people to understand the importance of maintaining its integrity, he said.

However, widening the highway through the park is not on the horizon, Ireland said.

"It's an issue with Parks Canada. It's not necessarily insurmountable, but it's not going to happen in the foreseeable future."

Paul Hardy, owner of Sundog Tours, which started operating the shuttle last week, said it's a seamless service for visitors arriving at the international airport.

Sundog will have a representative there no matter what time people arrive, and they can go to West Edmonton Mall for the day and then connect with the shuttle to Jasper, which costs $79 one way from the mall and $89 from the airport.

Three major U.K. tour operators already have the bus included in their tour packages, Hardy said.

He's expecting Jasper residents will also take the shuttle for Christmas shopping. As traffic grows, Sundog can switch to larger buses, he said.

There's also hope that packaging Edmonton and Jasper to Europeans will keep the Air Canada flights full and lead to other non-stop European services, including Frankfurt, Edmonton Airports CEO Reg Milley said.

"The Air Canada flights have an economic impact in excess of $20 million a year on Jasper and Edmonton. And the much needed shuttle is a key to passengers arriving and departing at the international airport."

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[MalcolmTucker]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Jasper-Edmonton bus aims to boost tourism
Daily service from WEM a first step in effort to attract more Europeans
David Finlayson, edmontonjournal.com
Published: 1:47 pm

EDMONTON - It's just a 21-seater bus, but it's being touted as the first step in a major push to draw more tourists to Edmonton and Jasper.

The once-a-day service runs between Jasper, West Edmonton Mall and the international airport, and while it's geared primarily to European visitors arriving on Air Canada's London flights, the two communities hope locals will use it, too.

Mayor Stephen Mandel said the city hasn't done a good enough job promoting Jasper to the international market, as Calgary has with Banff, and the new shuttle is a first step in changing that.
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"Jasper is a wonderful place and we haven't taken advantage of it in the past. It's the key to attracting more Europeans."

"We need to be far more proactive, and stick with new programs like this and not quit after 20 minutes."

Jasper Mayor Richard Ireland is looking forward to more year-round international visitors, but hopes the shuttle will bring more Edmontonians to the mountains.

"We want Edmonton to recognize Jasper as its backyard. And we in Jasper access Edmonton for its services and cultural amenities. The shuttle will help both communities."

Ireland isn't concerned that more visitors will have a negative impact on the national park.

Better access will allow more people to understand the importance of maintaining its integrity, he said.

However, widening the highway through the park is not on the horizon, Ireland said.

"It's an issue with Parks Canada. It's not necessarily insurmountable, but it's not going to happen in the foreseeable future."

Paul Hardy, owner of Sundog Tours, which started operating the shuttle last week, said it's a seamless service for visitors arriving at the international airport.

Sundog will have a representative there no matter what time people arrive, and they can go to West Edmonton Mall for the day and then connect with the shuttle to Jasper, which costs $79 one way from the mall and $89 from the airport.

Three major U.K. tour operators already have the bus included in their tour packages, Hardy said.

He's expecting Jasper residents will also take the shuttle for Christmas shopping. As traffic grows, Sundog can switch to larger buses, he said.

There's also hope that packaging Edmonton and Jasper to Europeans will keep the Air Canada flights full and lead to other non-stop European services, including Frankfurt, Edmonton Airports CEO Reg Milley said.

"The Air Canada flights have an economic impact in excess of $20 million a year on Jasper and Edmonton. And the much needed shuttle is a key to passengers arriving and departing at the international airport."

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© Edmonton Journal 2007

Well there is the little difference that from Calgary you can go out to Banff and back in the same day. Lots of conferences have a day trip out to Banff.

4 hours is alot longer than just over an hour.

I am surprised this didn't exist before..

[Coldrsx]

^it did, but not for international tourists...local skiers.

Japser is harder to get to for day trips, but i have done many...but it is a long day.

I like how far jasper is personally...feels like im getting away from it all.

[tuffyy]

^AeroMexico has been offering flights catering directly to Mexican tourists wanting to go to Jasper for the last two years so having the new bus service just makes it that much easier now...

[Coldrsx]

wtf
Zoom Air drops Edmonton route
Journal Staff, edmontonjournal.com
Published: 3:11 pm

EDMONTON - Zoom Air is pulling out of Edmonton after four years of charter flights to London.

Disappointing passenger numbers last summer on its weekly flights prompted the airline to concentrate on Calgary and Vancouver in Western Canada, Edmonton Airports spokesman Jim Rudolph said.

"They believe the Edmonton market is adequately filled by other carriers," Rudolph said. "We are continuing to work with Zoom to look at that route again, and also European alternatives such as Frankfurt."
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Zoom officials weren't immediately available for comment Thursday.

Air Canada began year-round non-stop flights to London late last year, and Air Transat also offers summer charters to the U.K.

Zoom flies to U.K. and Paris from Vancouver, Calgary, Winnipeg, Ottawa, Toronto, Montreal and Halifax.

The Ottawa-based airline came to Edmonton in 2003 to fill the void in transatlantic flights when Canada 3000 went bankrupt after 9/11. Zoom was founded in 2002 by Scottish businessman Hugh Boyle, and Bank of Scotland is a minority partner. Last summer, it started competing with Virgin Atlantic, British Airways and American Airlines on the London-New York route.




© Edmonton Journal 2007

[Kevin_foster]

Thats a big plane.

[Coldrsx]

i dont understand YEG...we clearly have an under served market still...the fastest growing NA airport....and a 1 billion expansion, yet we cant get more flights or keep some we have?

[ExcaliburKid]

Poor management? Or is it because we're Edmonton?