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Old Posted Nov 16, 2007, 12:12 AM
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Neighbors protest lights planned for kids hospital
CHILDREN'S MEMORIAL | 'A real intrusion to our quality of life'

November 15, 2007
BY FRAN SPIELMAN


"It's a real intrusion to our quality of residential life," Deen said. "I don't even know who's gonna see this except the residents on Pearson. The importance of Children's Memorial is to serve children inside the hospital -- not to make an architectural statement outside the building at my expense."

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We really need to make a "The Best of NIMBYs" thread to keep track of all these ridiculous statements.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2007, 12:18 AM
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^^^ I live on Pearson and I signed a petition to support this project, I hope my signature is used to make these NIMBYs look like idiots...
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2007, 12:23 AM
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^ Hopefully support it without new parking. It's what, two blocks from Michigan Ave? There shouldn't be any parking. Building parking creates traffic.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2007, 12:30 AM
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"...not to make an architectural statement outside the building at my expense."

The real irony is that, minus the lighting, the building is ass-ugly and a real bore. I wish they were complaining about that.

I agree that the lighting is obnoxious. But I wish these people would get with it and ask for a real architectural statement, not sit around and praise the status quo. It's all so backwards, it just makes you ill.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2007, 2:15 AM
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2007, 3:16 AM
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There shouldn't be any parking.
At a regional Children's Hospital? Does that seem very realistic to you?

Do you think distraught families taking a child to the hospital find it practical to spend two hours transferring from PACE bus to Metra train to CTA bus? Or taking siblings to visit? Do you think a lot of on-call physicians find the L meets their needs? Do a lot of night-shift nurses choose to walk home from the bus stop through sketchy neighborhoods at 2 am?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2007, 3:41 AM
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At a regional Children's Hospital? Does that seem very realistic to you?

Do you think distraught families taking a child to the hospital find it practical to spend two hours transferring from PACE bus to Metra train to CTA bus? Or taking siblings to visit? Do you think a lot of on-call physicians find the L meets their needs? Do a lot of night-shift nurses choose to walk home from the bus stop through sketchy neighborhoods at 2 am?
We have Taxis in Chicago.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2007, 3:47 AM
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^ Hmmm, we're talking about on call physicians and late shift nurses--it would be pretty expensive for them to pay cab fare every night. I do agree that there should be some parking, I'm just wondering where Reilly came up with that bloated 1,100 number.

BTW, did anybody go to the Solstice on the Park meeting today? Was it the usual pit-bull style NIMBY ranting or did something actually worth commenting upon take place tonight?
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2007, 3:51 AM
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At a regional Children's Hospital? Does that seem very realistic to you?

Do you think distraught families taking a child to the hospital find it practical to spend two hours transferring from PACE bus to Metra train to CTA bus? Or taking siblings to visit? Do you think a lot of on-call physicians find the L meets their needs? Do a lot of night-shift nurses choose to walk home from the bus stop through sketchy neighborhoods at 2 am?

Horray

This is the first time I support everything that mr DT has said.

well done.
     
     
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is that an extension of Mies between the two buildings?
     
     
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It looks so small...

Any rhyme or reason as to why this one managed to go up so quick? It seems like it just started in the late spring. Maybe the small floor size?

By the way, SW, another excellent pic (the clarity and color in the photos are always insane!).
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2007, 4:53 AM
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As a reminder, I hope someone from the forum will be able to attend the Solstice on the Park meeting tonight at 7pm.
It went magnificently, the neighborhood seemed largely in support.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2007, 6:15 AM
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I was amazed at how well the meeting went. Not only was there support, but enthusiastic support from the residents. The room filed with applauds with each positive comment. One man representing the chamber of commerce broke out population numbers and mentioned that Hyde Park once had 71,000 residents, which has shrunk to about 43,000 today. He then stated that “We need more density to support our stores, and CTA”. There were concerns about circulation with the neighboring Bret Harte School which were all addressed. Some were even saying “its time get this building approved.” The only negative comment was about shadows cast on building to the north, which was silenced after a shaddow study was shown. The alderman was present and seemed pleased, although she did not really speak to the crowd much. The overall mood in the room was great, with lots of laughs coming from the crowd after comments from the very charismatic lawyer representing the developer.

Some tidbits on Solstice…

-The tower’s parapet tops out at 285’. The mechanical penthouse may take it just over 300’.

-56 permanently affordable units will be provided for in a existing walk-up building that the developer purchased one year ago next door.

-The “carved” south façade is angled inwards at 72 degrees, the angle of the summer sun, (I’m guessing on the summer solstice) to minimize solar heat gain, but allow natural light and heat in the winter.

-The building will recycle rain water with a cistern under the garage for landscape irrigation.

-The “plaza” in front of the tower on 56th has been modified, and is now landscaped with sculpted hedge rows.

-Shear walls on the East and West facades were subjected to computer load tests, which reveled where the reinforced concrete was carrying little force. These areas were then subtracted and replaced with the glazed notches which increase in size as one gets higher, reducing the amount of material used, and showing true form following true function.

-The tower’s unit mix is separated into three tiers, each with its own façade layout of window bays based on the unit sizes which increases as one moves up the tower.

-Two floors of parking underground, and about four above. There will be a 2:1 ratio for Solstice, because the developer is building replacement parking for the existing lots on the site as well as opening some op to the neighborhood. The Cornel side will have offices along the ground floor facing the sidewalk. No parking will be visible on the 56th Street elevation, the condos come down to the second floor there.

-The developer will realign the alley and provide for more drop off space, as well as more green space for the neighboring Bret Harte School.

-They would like to begin marketing soon, opening a sales trailer on the site in January 2008. If all goes to plan, construction starts in summer of 2008, with completion 18 months after.

-Poured-in-place concrete structure.

-Ivy will be planted, fertilized and encouraged to grow freely up the Cornell side of the building. I asked the attorney if that could be a world record for the tallest Ivy covered wall if it was able to climb all the way up.

I guess that’s about it, ask any other questions you may have…

Sorry for the posting delay, I don't visit Hyde Park often and was obligated to go for a walk on this beautiful brisk evening.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2007, 6:32 AM
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-Ivy will be planted, fertilized and encouraged to grow freely up the Cornell side of the building. I asked the attorney if that could be a world record for the tallest Ivy covered wall if it was able to climb all the way up.

Wow. Best use for a blank concrete wall I've heard in a while. They should have put that in the render. I retract most of my objections.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2007, 7:05 AM
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Hotel Dana?

What’s up with the bare concrete North wall of the Dana Hotel?

Also a lot of you guys keep making remarks about BP moving offices downtown. While this is true, they are only moving about a 1/3 of their current personal from Naperville and Warrenville to the Loop. Most of which constitutes their trading and operations group for the Mid-West. The rest of the positions are moving to Houston. So frankly I don't know how much office space they are really going to be moving into...

Unless someone else has solid figures on space they are shopping for?
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^ Great news about Studio Gang, thanks for the report. I had a feeling it would be fine down there. The firm is really on a roll.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2007, 1:56 PM
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Wow, thanks Shawn. I wonder what brought about this about-face in community support?

Did you happen to snap any shots of the newer renderings?
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Hey Vic...If i remember correctly you went to a meeting about 150 east ontario...any good news?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2007, 2:48 PM
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Shawn, thank you for the in-delth solstice report. i am truly shocked that the hyde park community appears so willing to embrace forward-thinking, sustainable, and URBAN development like this in their neighborhood. is the populace of our great city slowing starting to wake-up?
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