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Nice pictures! Is that grey glass towards the top of the curtain wall? It might be a reflection, or maybe ventalation for a mechanical floor?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2007, 7:11 AM
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Good question. I'm not sure what that is, but it's in all the shots so I don't think it's a reflection. I hadn't noticed it before. I'll have to look at it more closely on Monday.
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Good question. I'm not sure what that is, but it's in all the shots so I don't think it's a reflection. I hadn't noticed it before. I'll have to look at it more closely on Monday.
I thought it was an area with missing glass and that the gray area was simply concrete visible from the decks. However, upon close inspection, it looks unlikely. My best guess is its something like what happened at One Rincon where they boarded up some of the places where glass was suppose to go. I hope its not a vent because something like that in that place could ruin the uniformity of the glass and stand out.
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2007, 6:49 PM
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Wow, what a great skin, and nice sharp angles. This, 300 spear, 555 mission all have fantastic skins. It's a great trend going on in this part of the city. Gotta love it.

There are also some buildings coming out of the ground around in civic center, but I don't know what buildings these are yet. Hope these are as stunning as well.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2007, 7:23 PM
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^^^I live in Civic Center and every building in that area is discussed here somewhere. I've photographed most of them and posted the shots. None of these buildings are tall enough to have threads of their own, so check in the compilations section, the "mid-Market Renaissance" thread in the Bar Area section and the Bay Area "tidbits" sections.
     
     
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A sunny Sunday morning (10/28)...

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The grey area is some sort of ventilation grill:

     
     
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2007, 12:51 AM
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Not exactly the most attractive place to put a ventilation grill on such a nice building. Perhaps its only temporary?
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2007, 2:49 AM
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That looks like a mechanical ventilation grill. There is a taller floor just below it that seems to support this notion. I suspect there may be one or more such grills as we travel up the facade creating a uniform pattern of some sort.
     
     
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^yes it looks like the IFC in hong kong. mechanical floors half way up are fairly common for tall towers.

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Sure appears that way. One thing to note is that the venting is only on the northeast facing side. The whole floor doesn't appear to be mechanical, just a small part of it.
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DownTown Dave. Those are some great pics you take. Building is looking awesome...

     
     
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Our midrise poking up with Infinity and One Rincon Hill:

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Ha. I just quoted an image on the 555 Mission thread about capturing San Francisco changing in pictures. This is another excellent example. Well done CityKid.
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Monster in the Mist:



Pouring cement on the upper floors:



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A few words from Socketsite.com:

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A few things you might already know about the Millennium rising: 419 condos divided into three different "Residences" (each with separate lobbies, elevators, homeowners associations, and distinct finishes). The 11-story midrise will consist of 53 units dubbed The City Residences; while over in the 60-story tower floors 3-25 will consist of 191 units dubbed The Residences and floors 26-60 will consist of 175 units dubbed The Grand Residences.

The two penthouse floors (10,700 square feet on the 59th floor and 9,500 square feet on the 60th) will likely be delivered as raw space (an approach of which we are fans). And residents across all Residences will have access to the extensive second floor Club Level (an "urban country club" which will include a fitness center run by Sports Club/LA, private wine lockers and tasting room, pool and outdoor terrace, and a private lounge and dining room served by the highly anticipated wine themed restaurant on the first floor that has yet to be announced).

There are a total of 340 parking spaces in the building (with leased offsite parking in the works for those who don't get a space). The building is expected to be finished spring 2009. And the sales office opens next Thursday (11/08/2007).

And now here are a few things you (probably) don't already know: the sales office will begin accepting ten percent (10%) deposits upon opening; early rumblings suggest prices could start at a little over $1,000 a square foot (which is less than we were expecting) and go as high as $2,200 for the penthouses (you can do the math on that one); and monthly HOAs are expected to range from $774 to $1,750 (which is surprisingly low compared to the Four Seasons or St. Regis).

Oh, and did we mention that interactive floor plans, interior renderings, unit features, and simulated views for most of the Residences are now live on the Millennium website?
Socketsite has also posted up a variety of pictures displaying how the rooms could look like. I dont think those penthouses are going to sell for less than $15 million, but the view from those heights are just ... well, superb.
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If Socketsite's numbers are correct, those penthouses will go for $20M and $23M respectively. That's just for the raw space. I can afford to go in on one...if I can find about 200 other people who want to do the same.
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Millennium Partners is not satisfied building the tallest residential tower on the West Coast. The developer wants the priciest one as well.

With its sales office opening Nov. 8, Millennium is poised to test uncharted territory in the city's rarefied condo market. At the top of the 647-foot-tall building, a quartet of penthouses on the 59th and 60th floors of the blue-gray glass tower, prices will hover around $2,150 a square foot. With sizes ranging from 5,500 to 5,800 square feet, not including spacious outdoor terraces, that puts each penthouse around $12 million. On floors 49 through 58, the condos will range from $3.3 million to $6 million, an average of $1,670 a square foot. From 26 to 48, pricing goes from $2 million to $3.25 million, or $1,375 a square foot.

Even the bottom 25 floors, at $1,100 a square foot, are richer than One Rincon Hill, which averaged $1,025.


That bullish pricing, amid a weakening national and Bay Area housing markets, reflects demand at three previous ultra-deluxe projects: Millennium's Four Season Residences, the St. Regis Residences, and the Ritz-Carlton Club and Residences, according to Millennium Partners Managing Director Richard Baumert, who is overseeing the project.

Diana Nelson, who led sales at the Four Seasons and is heading up the effort at the Millennium, said resale values at those earlier projects back up the aggressive pricing.

Two resale units at the Four Seasons are in escrow at over $5 million and one unit just closed at $6.6 million. All three condos sold between $1 million and $1.5 million over their original price tag.

"We know what the demand is at the Four Seasons, not just for the penthouses but that style of living. Now we have the historical data to support how people do love this kind of lifestyle," she said.

In Millennium's 13-building portfolio -- which includes towers in Boston, Los Angeles, Miami, Washington D.C., and five in New York -- only 50 Central Park South in Manhattan has higher prices than the Mission Street project, said Baumert.

"There has been a tremendous amount of interest in the penthouse space, but we have not yet entered into formal conversations," said Baumert.

He said the majority of buyers inquiring into the penthouses would buy two and combine them. And the $12 million-plus price tag -- $25 million if you're grabbing two -- doesn't include interior finishes, as the units will be delivered in shell condition with buyers likely investing millions more to build them out.

"At that price range people expect a level of customization higher than other parts of the building," said Baumert.

But comparable sales at past super-luxe products may not apply to the Millennium, according to Pacific Market President Paul Zeger, who markets and sells One Rincon Hill. The sheer number of for-sale units in the Millennium -- 419 versus 142 in Four Seasons and the 102 in the St. Regis -- will test the level of demand well above the $3 million mark.

"They are applying a New York model to San Francisco and the challenge is they have an awful lot of product," said Zeger. "How deep is the market for people who want to pay between $2 million and $6 million for that kind of product? The answer is: we don't know yet."

Zeger said the units on the bottom half of the Millennium will in fact compete with the cheaper Infinity and One Rincon, both of which are largely sold out.

"The question is, do you want to be at the top of the One Rincon or the bottom of the Millennium?

While Zeger thinks the lower floors will be a hard sell, the Millennium name should draw some buyers.

"There is a huge international market that knows Millennium from New York, Boston, and Florida and can afford those prices," he said.

Millennium advocates says that with a residents-only L.A. Sports club and an amenities floor more lavish than any of the city's hotels, the tower will offer everything that the best hotels have. But rather than sharing the facilities and 24-hour concierge services with out-of-town hotel guests, Millennium owners alone will have access to them.

In addition, the view on the top half of the building will be much better than the shorter St. Regis and Four Seasons, Nelson said.

"You take the Four Seasons and add 20 floors and it would be comparable," said Nelson.

The Millennium is not taking any chances when it comes to sales staff, Baumert said. In addition to Nelson, Millennium tapped Bryant Kowalcyck, who headed up the sales efforts at the St. Regis Residences, and Jennifer Xu IIes, a top producer at the Mark Co., which is selling the Infinity.

David Barrett, who sells high-end properties for Warwick Properties and currently has seven listings near or above $10 million, said the Millennium penthouses "could very well command those prices."

"It's very aggressive but there is a pent-up demand for large penthouses in San Francisco," he said.

He sees the downtown towers, especially the Millennium, as attracting retiring baby boomers as well as young tech entrepreneurs from Silicon Valley and the city.

"There is a whole new generation in San Francisco that wants to stake their claim using their own fortunes," he said. "New areas are being claimed by new groups."

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Old Posted Nov 2, 2007, 5:36 PM
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^^^So that means you've got a spare $100K? Can I marry you?
Hey, you're the retired doctor! (see: SF Rundown thread)

I was ballparking the number of partners. In reality, I can come up with the down payment on my slice. But I'd have to finance a good chunk of it, unfortunately.
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^^^Note the article I posted--the penthouses are only $12M unless you want to combine 2 of them for $24M, so we need fewer partners (or a very polygamous union).
     
     
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