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Old Posted Oct 29, 2007, 4:13 AM
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Green Light for Herald Examiner
A Rival's Appeal Is Rejected
by Anna Scott
The City Council's Planning, Land Use and Management Committee last week approved an expansive mixed-use development proposed for Downtown's historic Herald Examiner building. The long-delayed project is expected to come before the full council for final approval in November.
The project at 1111 S. Broadway by property owner Hearst Corp. has been stalled for more than a year, following legal challenges from USC area housing developer Conquest Student Housing; Conquest has contested numerous projects by Hearst's former partner on the effort, Urban Partners.

In approving the project, the PLUM committee rejected two separate appeals filed by Conquest.

"We are pleased with the outcome, and it's what we expected," said Marty Cepkauskas, director of real estate for Hearst Corp. "We're committed to seeing this project through."

Downtown Los Angeles-based Urban Partners dropped out of the deal in May. A federal lawsuit filed by Urban Partners and USC in September alleges that Conquest deliberately stalled the Herald Examiner project - along with several other Urban Partners developments - with frivolous challenges to dissuade the developer from pursuing a proposed student housing development in the USC area.

That project, the $135 million University Gateway, is expected to break ground in summer 2008.

According to the lawsuit, the Hearst Corp. cut ties with Urban Partners on the Herald Examiner project because of Conquest's interference.

Now that Conquest's appeal has been rejected, said Urban Partners principal Matthew Burton, "We would love to get back involved," but added that re-partnering would be Hearst Corp.'s decision.

"We have not had any discussions since we were removed from the project," said Burton. "But we think it's a great project. I'm thrilled that PLUM turned down the appeal."

Cepkauskas declined to comment on the possibility of rejoining with Urban Partners.


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The former home of William Randolph Hearst's Herald Examiner newspaper, at 11th Street and Broadway, has been vacant since 1989. Plans to redevelop the site, said Cepkauskas, have been on the burner for at least five years.

The project planned for the site would include 40,000 square feet of office space, 20,000 square feet of retail and a 10,000-square-foot health club in the lot's historic, Julia Morgan-designed Broadway building. Architect Brenda Levin would oversee that aspect of the project.

The development would also create a 24-story, 268-unit residential tower on the former press building site on Hill Street, which has been razed, and a 37-story, 319-unit high-rise at 120 W. 12th St. The new structures would be designed by Thom Mayne of Morphosis.

Earlier this year, Conquest appealed zoning changes and other approvals granted to the developer by the city's Planning Department.

According to Urban Partners' September lawsuit, Conquest attorney Greg Yaris told a Hearst Corp. representative that the opposition was aimed at stopping University Gateway. In early 2007, the suit alleges, Yaris told Hearst Corp. that Conquest would drop its appeals for $1 million.

"As a result of the Conquest Defendants' extortion and opposition to the project, Hearst terminated its relationship with Urban on that project," reads the 60-page complaint, in part.

After Hearst Corp. and Urban Partners parted ways, Conquest continued with its appeals. The city Planning Commission unanimously rejected the challenges in May.

During the PLUM committee meeting last Tuesday, Ninth District Councilwoman Jan Perry rebuked Conquest for what she characterized as an attempt to quell competition in the USC student housing market.

"I have some direct experience with the activities of Mr. Smolinisky's company," said Perry, referring to Conquest principal Alan Smolinisky, "in attempting to derail projects" near USC.

"He engaged in behavior which some might argue is at least harassment, possibly more than that, against Urban Partners," she said.

Conquest representatives did not attend last week's hearing. Phone calls to Conquest attorneys John Henning and Greg Yaris, and to Conquest principals Smolinisky and Brian Chen were not returned.

Veronica Perez of the Central City Association hailed the Herald Examiner project as one that "will mark a new era for the South Park area and benefit the entire Downtown region.

"It is truly unfortunate that such a landmark project for Downtown, which has substantial community support, has met significant procedural delays due to a merit-less appeal," she added.

PLUM committee members seemed somewhat baffled by the appeals.

"I can't think of a case with an appellant," said PLUM committee member Jack Weiss, "that totally lacked standing."

He went on to ask Perry, "Have you seen anything like this in your career?"

Conquest is expected to file a written response to the September lawsuit with the U.S. District Court on Nov. 7. A preliminary hearing is set for Dec. 10, according to Urban Partners attorney Karl Tilleman, and the case is expected to go to trial late next year.

Contact Anna Scott at [email protected].

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you can build as many blocks of dense "ped oriented" development as you wish, but peds won't be patronizing them if they have to drive.
Like you said we are a good 40 years off before the entire city is ped friendly, but is it really so cut and dry? I know it's not ideal, but I always thought Pasadena was on to something with those public garages. It’s realistic in assuming that were a far way away from getting people out of there cars, but at least this way people park around the edges of downtown and then *gasp* walk a few blocks to there destination. I'm just thinking out loud here; but don't you think that "forced pedestrian" activity in LA is better then no pedestrian activity at all?
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in my opinion, pasadena is not a good example. it's a restaurant-row/shopping mall. it's not for everyday living. it wouldn't exist without 98% of its patrons having driven there from throughout the SGV expanse. what, aside from mere appearance, makes it functionally any different from the santa anita mall just a few miles east?

you know why i keep bringing up DTSD? because it's represents the exact phenomenon. it's an entertainment mall that suburbanites drive to, functionally no different from horton plaza. we habitually associate the word "pedestrian" with the mere act of walking, and without regards to context (by this definition walking in a shopping mall is a "pedestrian" activity, and cause for cheerleading). but that simplistic association misses the entire point. from the urban planning standpoint, pedestrianism refers to a lifestyle, not the mere act of walking. and how much of pasadena is due to gold line ridership? my point is that it really is that cut-and-dry - either we have regional transit mobility or we don't. pretty much everything else championed (mindlessly) here falls secondary.

you see, that's what frustrates me about this forum sometimes...that people are unable to discern organic urbanism from fake urbanism because they're duped by an image of progress; that we're citing pseudo-urbanism as change when it's really just repackaging. and well-meaning politicians are the most frustrating. we call ourselves "urbanists", but we're as misled as the greenwashed. they're all well-meaning bandwagons here, but people also need to think a little before jumping on.

and many of you don't appreciate my tactless approach, but don't act shocked or offended. i'm not seeking cronies.

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In regards to what's going on behind Flower:

One of my buddies who recently moved to Market Lofts notes that the plan is to build a large parking garage right between Market Lofts & the Gas Company Lofts, which will be utilized by those two lofts as well as the future high rise on the corner of 8th & Hope (iHope?). As long as there is ground floor retail on the parking garage, then I'm cool with it.
     
     
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Another thing I noticed while on the David Lawrence Gray Architects site (the architects of 1111 Wilshire), was that they listed the following project in their "On the Boards" section:

GOOD SAM
360 unit mixed use building
LA, CA

I'm not sure if this is a Good Samaritan hospital with 360 beds or a 360 unit mixed-use residential building, but in any case it's gotta be significant in size. It's the only project without a rendering. I wonder what - and where - it is they're planning.
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But whatever I suppose. I don't think your racist by any means. But some of the things you've said have come across that way.
I think the problem is that some ppl substitute "race" for class & culture. So cries of "race" or "racism" become a cliche or a parody:

"I hate rundown stores!"
Racist!
"I hate rundown streets!"
Racist!
"I hate schools with low test scores!"
Racist!
"I hate crime!"
Racist!
"I hate graffiti!"
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what problems I have with LA reflect those I have more broadly with capitalism and the direction it's taking humanity
That in a nutshell is the reason you'd be better off visiting & writing to a forum dedicated purely to politics and governmental affairs.

It doesn't make sense for someone like you to be spending time here when almost all the posts (OK, not this particular one) in a thread titled LOS ANGELES: Downtown Project Rundown are about specific, tangible new devlpt or specific, tangible proposals for new projs, inc related issues of architecture, the urban setting & the preferences of the buyer. For instance, what's being snapped up or passed over by consumers (in stores, restaurants, theaters, transit), renters, homebuyers. These subjects can easily segue to the question of the aesthetics of a hood-----the way a bldg, house, park or street looks-----which apparently isn't that important or interesting to you.


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And I already have a positive solution for a problem to which nearly all remaining problems in this city are secondary - my beef is in its not manifesting.
A solution!? I sure haven't seen that from you. All I've seen are attacks on forumers like me, &, more importantly, so much overly vague, overly pretentious intellectualizing, that you might just as well be arguing about the issue of abortion, or healthcare, or minimum wage, or racial segregation, or global warming, or unions.
     
     
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I've been to LA many times now...but this trip was my first in downtown. As an east coaster I'm SHOCKED at the lack of retail at street level in many of the skyscrapers.
It's still chicken or egg: what comes first? Alot more stores or the residents (& more nearby workers, tourists) who will be their customers?

The hood still needs thousands of additional condos & apts, & the occupants of such housing, to provide enough demand for a lot more retailing.

The advantage of certain other cities is that they have a huge number of ppl in all categories. There are a lot of office workers, alot of tourists, a lot of visitors from the burbs & alot of round the clock residents.

DTLA---at least til now---has seen the first group level off, as more businesses moved to hoods like Century city, the second group has been just as likely to be in SaMo or Anaheim, the third group has avoided DT at all costs, & the last group just now is finally starting to show up.

I keep thinking alot of new housing has been completed in DT, but I then realize that some important projs actually either have opened just very recently (Luma, 1100 Wilshire)----so condos buyers or renters are still moving in----or will soon open (Hanover's apt tower), or won't open for a few more yrs (Astani's concerto or Meurelo's 717).

When I was in the hood last wk the thing that hit me----as it often does----is not that there's so few stores on the street level of skyscrapers, but that some very important spaces still are vacant, & that a lot of sites still need to be filled in. For instance, all the land around the South Group's 3 towers, or the location north of Pershing Sq, where Parkfifth is supposed to rise.
     
     
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we habitually associate the word "pedestrian" with the mere act of walking, and without regards to context (by this definition walking in a shopping mall is a "pedestrian" activity, and cause for cheerleading)
Funny, because when I used Pasadena as an example, I was thinking in ecomomic terms, and your absolutely right; I wasn't talking abou a true urban experience but rather getting people on foot in areas to stimulate ground floor retail and improve the atmosphere. I mean even it's just some someone walking two blocks from a resturant to a parking garage, at least those two blocks become a little bit safer and hey maybe they'll stop for a coffe on the way back. This is what makes me grind my teeth about LA Live, its a "one stop" experience with dinner, movies, and parking all included. Granted, what I was after, I got; your opinion. Thanks!
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in my opinion, pasadena is not a good example. it's a restaurant-row/shopping mall. it's not for everyday living. it wouldn't exist without 98% of its patrons having driven there from throughout the SGV expanse. what, aside from mere appearance, makes it functionally any different from the santa anita mall just a few miles east?

you know why i keep bringing up DTSD? because it's represents the exact phenomenon. it's an entertainment mall that suburbanites drive to, functionally no different from horton plaza. we habitually associate the word "pedestrian" with the mere act of walking, and without regards to context (by this definition walking in a shopping mall is a "pedestrian" activity, and cause for cheerleading). but that simplistic association misses the entire point. from the urban planning standpoint, pedestrianism refers to a lifestyle, not the mere act of walking. and how much of pasadena is due to gold line ridership? my point is that it really is that cut-and-dry - either we have regional transit mobility or we don't. pretty much everything else championed (mindlessly) here falls secondary.

you see, that's what frustrates me about this forum sometimes...that people are unable to discern organic urbanism from fake urbanism because they're duped by an image of progress; that we're citing pseudo-urbanism as change when it's really just repackaging. and well-meaning politicians are the most frustrating. we call ourselves "urbanists", but we're as misled as the greenwashed. they're all well-meaning bandwagons here, but people also need to think a little before jumping on.

and many of you don't appreciate my tactless approach, but don't act shocked or offended. i'm not seeking cronies.
Cronies? (gawd) Give it a break. It's not your approach at all. It is just your overall persona.

As I've said before, it looks like they already tried organic downtown and look how it turned out. We are trying the "fake" now instead. Obviously. I'm sure most homeowners downtown prefer pseudo to your organic since it means the difference between projects moving forward or not. I don't care if it's pinkberry or the million dollar theater, just build it, restore it, mixed use it, whatever it takes because that's what it WILL take to ensure these future projects get built.

Why does every forum whether its stocks, real estate, computers, always have to have an edluva? What good does it do?
     
     
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Last night I attended the concert at the Nokia.....Now, my take on the Nokia....fantastic. When you see all the people walking outside and eating at the temporary Wolfgang Puck restaurant, you get a taste of things to come. There is an amazing energy there. I can't wait for phase 2 and phase 3. The Nokia was perfect for a concert and seeing so many seats on one level really added to the festive atmosphere.
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My bf and I walked over to the Nokia Plaza last night to grab a bite at the temporary Wolfgang spot, we we're also very happy to see the amount of energy this place gives off. Everyone seemed to be having a great time there, we were approached by a few individuals, but that's probably mainly because I was wearing my Boston Rsox shirt. We also can't wait until the second phase in here...but then again, we'll be complaining then we'll need retail after we get the restaurants...gotta be patient, I tell myself.

I'm not very happy to see that LA Central lot being used as a parking lot again...what the heck is going on? sucks!
Thanks for the first hand accounts of your experiences in the hood &, in particular, your visits to the new theater. Another forumer gave his description of LA Live in the LA forum, which helps give a clearer sense of where the hood is headed.

As for LA Central, I guess since it has a formal construction barrier around it I'm less worried about it still not being under actual devlpt. I hope I don't have to eat my words, & that the site won't soon revert to its former use as a parking lot.

I know there have been a few sites in LA in past yrs, such as a condo proj in mid wilshire, where construction barriers were installed even though a proj eventually never went forward. However, I can't believe that's gonna happen to LA Central.

So far, it's probably safe to assume that the Grand Ave proj will be the only totally new proj to be underway before the end of 2007. I'm guessing that actual construction also will begin on LA central well before then (by no later than mid November?). As for next yr, I think there may be a lull, with the news being mainly about the completion & opening of existing projs. Possibly by mid 2008 or later, work will begin on a major new devlpt like Parkfifth
     
     
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Funny, because when I used Pasadena as an example, I was thinking in ecomomic terms, and your absolutely right; I wasn't talking abou a true urban experience but rather getting people on foot in areas to stimulate ground floor retail and improve the atmosphere. I mean even it's just some someone walking two blocks from a resturant to a parking garage, at least those two blocks become a little bit safer and hey maybe they'll stop for a coffe on the way back. This is what makes me grind my teeth about LA Live, its a "one stop" experience with dinner, movies, and parking all included. Granted, what I was after, I got; your opinion. Thanks!
you're welcome. i gladly volunteer my opinion. especially to someone who can think.

anywho, old town pasadena is broadly speaking, a one-stop shop. i guess we're talking past each other. i'm talking regional mobility, you're talking local economics. they're somewhat different points. turning a suburban downtown into a shopping mall may help the economy of, well, that suburban downtown. it doesn't address mobility. so i guess there is economic merit there, but going back to your question because i didn't answer it...pasadena, l.a. live, and the bev center are all the same sort of pedestrianism. they're all "forced". the main difference between them is whether or not they're enclosed. in other words, it's hard to differentiate between old town and a westfield mall, unless you're speaking strictly about revenues (i'm not). i mean, by your argument, l.a. live is also revitalizing two blocks of "blight". imo, the mere fact that a road (colorado) runs through one is doesn't change it's role to the SGV region as a car-oriented destination. i personally don't see much substance when it remains, functionally speaking, another shopping mall. old town pasadena is an aesthetic pedestrianism. it's not real. it's gilmore with street traffic. you're exactly right about the economic windfall though.


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i guess we're talking past each other. i'm talking regional mobility, you're talking local economics.
You've got a point there. I think it's easy in Los Angeles, and especially on this board, to forget that there exists a world outside of downtown. I guess I was being a bit narrow sighted in just focusing on Downtown LA and not the region. I'm trying to put a band aid on a wound that needs stitches! Although at this point it seems like anything would be an improvement over the status quo.
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One of my buddies who recently moved to Market Lofts notes that the plan is to build a large parking garage right between Market Lofts & the Gas Company Lofts, which will be utilized by those two lofts as well as the future high rise on the corner of 8th & Hope (iHope?).
I believe the site you're referring to actually is the conversion of the existing bldg located between the Mkt Lofts & Gas Co bldg. I originally thought that structure, now "shrink wrapped", was a part of the Gas Co lofts, but I guess not. I'm also assuming it originally was used for office space & not for parking cars.

I wish condo sales at the Mkt Lofts had gone, or were going, alot faster right now, because that might encourage the devlpr to get moving quicker on the proposed tower north of Ralphs & directly east of the Gas Co & shrink wrapped bldgs.
     
     
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yeah, I can be a bit harsh (understatement of the year ) regarding the band-aid approach (cosmetic rather than substantive fixes) but I'm really getting impatient with lack of progress, and the amount of politicking under the guise of actual progress. people are being misled - I actually feel for many rich NIMBYs. politicians are putting the cart before the horse, justifying dense, "ped oriented" developments for example in the westside, with no underlying transit infrastructure. and we're gobbling it all up because it's "mixed use". this shows how ignorant politicians are about basic urban planning principles.

and you bring up a point about how balkanized our city is. even self-ascribed "urbanists" have localist tendencies. it's really hard to see the big picture in this fragmented cityscape. pasadena looks like urban-development success - well, it did eliminate blight, but i always wonder, did it fundamentally change the lifestyle of the SGV? and i'll ask the same for downtown...granted it is a fledgling "rail nexus" (to nowhere)
     
     
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[/b]I believe the site you're referring to actually is the conversion of the existing bldg located between the Mkt Lofts & Gas Co bldg. I originally thought that structure, now "shrink wrapped", was a part of the Gas Co lofts, but I guess not. I'm also assuming it originally was used for office space & not for parking cars.

I wish condo sales at the Mkt Lofts had gone, or were going, alot faster right now, because that might encourage the devlpr to get moving quicker on the proposed tower north of Ralphs & directly east of the Gas Co & shrink wrapped bldgs.
I'll ask them what they are working on next time I see them working. I found this render a while ago so we know there will be a parking garage right behind Ralph's. I was suggesting that they might convert that building from what ever it was into being part of the new parking garage between Ralph's and iHope. They will need a lot of parking to cover for Market, Gas Co, iHope and all the retail under Market lofts.


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yeah, I can be a bit harsh (understatement of the year ) regarding the band-aid approach (cosmetic rather than substantive fixes) but I'm really getting impatient with lack of progress, and the amount of politicking under the guise of actual progress. people are being misled - I actually feel for many rich NIMBYs. politicians are putting the cart before the horse, justifying dense, "ped oriented" developments for example in the westside, with no underlying transit infrastructure. and we're gobbling it all up because it's "mixed use". this shows how ignorant politicians are about basic urban planning principles.

and you bring up a point about how balkanized our city is. even self-ascribed "urbanists" have localist tendencies. it's really hard to see the big picture in this fragmented cityscape. pasadena looks like urban-development success - well, it did eliminate blight, but i always wonder, did it fundamentally change the lifestyle of the SGV? and i'll ask the same for downtown...granted it is a fledgling "rail nexus" (to nowhere)


Like I said before, trying to overhaul the current auto-oriented lifestyle in Southern California to something akin to Tokyo is insurmountable (as long as there is a force called "cheap oil," people will CHOOSE to drive and choose not to invest in subways). LA's cultural composition is filled with conflicting forces and no leadership with the guts to truly change that. As long as people have single family houses in the middle of the city and cheap oil to run their automobiles, LA's middle class will perpetuate the car culture city.
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I was suggesting that they might convert that building from what ever it was into being part of the new parking garage between Ralph's and iHope. They will need a lot of parking to cover for Market, Gas Co, iHope and all the retail under Market lofts.

That rendering indicates there definitely will be a shorter bldg for parking cars on the Hope St side of the block. I'm assuming that the existing bldg on Flower----the "shrink wrapped" one----is now being modified for parking too, with the totally new structure planned to rise to the east also being for parking.

BTW, I was in the koreatown part of wilshire blvd not long ago & it was a relief to see that area showing signs of new life. That hood started to become comatose over 20 yrs ago. Thank bejezzus for the Korean community & any other ppl or any person that helps the city.


Affluent Asians set up house in downtown L.A.



By Kemp Powers
Sun Oct 28, 2007

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Architect Christopher Pak understands what upwardly mobile Koreans want and that's why his latest project, a 22-story residential tower, has no apartments on the fourth and fourteenth floors. The number 4 sounds like the word "death" in Korean, Pak says. So in his building the fourth level will be for parking and the residential floors will skip the fourteenth.

Pleasing Korean clients is a key part of keeping the downtown and near downtown Los Angeles property market hot, in stark contrast to the chilly sales in most of Southern California in the wake of the subprime lending crisis. Koreans and other affluent Asians are joining the ranks of young loft dwellers who have fueled a resurgence of downtown Los Angeles as a place to live, not just work.

"Koreans have a natural affinity to downtown," said Pak, a Korean American who is also a partner in the $160 million development, due to be completed in 2008.

Koreans, he said, believe urban cores as having better quality of life than rural or suburban areas, an idea counterintuitive to many in this sprawling city of 3.8 million with few high rises. The near-downtown neighborhood of Koreatown had already been undergoing a major rehabilitation from its days of devastation in the 1992 race riots. Today the neighborhood is completely different, bustling with activity day and night and increasingly awash in wealth.

After the Korean government relaxed overseas investment limits in 2006, individuals and real estate firms have descended on the Los Angeles market, home to the largest Korean community in the world outside of Korea.

PARK FIFTH GOING QUICKLY

While Koreatown was an obvious first destination, this affluent group has rapidly expanded into the dynamic downtown market down the street. More than 7,000 new residential units have opened in downtown Los Angeles since 1999, with another 7,500 under construction and several larger projects close to breaking ground, according to the downtown Los Angeles Business Improvement District. The BID estimates the population will double from the current 29,000 to 58,000 by 2009. Almost 25 percent of downtown's residents are Asian.

"The subprime meltdown has not affected our downtown market," said Robert Cipolloni, a real estate consultant at Windermere Properties who also moved downtown in 2006. "Yes, there's a glut with all of the new condos being built, but at the pace that people are moving into downtown L.A., that glut is going to be eaten up."

The anticipated growth has recently sparked some eye-opening projects. The largest is Park Fifth, a 890-foot (270-metre), $1 billion high-rise condominium that will house 726 residential units ranging in price from $400,000 to $5 million. The building, to be completed in 2010, has been in presales for just over two months and 50 percent of the units have been sold, according to developers. Cipolloni recalled a gathering hosted by a Korean agent that resulted in 40 people each putting down $10,000 deposits to reserve units in Park Fifth.

A RELATIVE BARGAIN

Money appears not to be an issue, especially compared with prices back home. In a 2007 cost of living survey from Mercer Human Resource Consulting, Asian cities were three of the top five most expensive in the world, with Seoul in third place, followed by Tokyo and Hong Kong. Los Angeles was a relative bargain in 42nd place.

"We definitely have a large Asian element," said Richard Marr, Park Fifth's project manager, who says he can't say for certain how many of Park Fifth's presales are Asian buyers. "If you go to Seoul, Shanghai, Singapore, there's a certain prestige in living in taller buildings on the higher floors."

Korea's largest real estate development company, Shin Young, is buying a parcel of downtown land for a 334-unit condominium building. The company is already building a 40-story condo skyscraper in the heart of Koreatown. However, its downtown building won't contain the accoutrements to appeal to Korean buyers. It's an investment property for American buyers, the company said.

Koreans aren't the first Asian community to invest heavily in downtown Los Angeles. In the 1980s, Japanese companies were on a tear to acquire downtown real estate. "When the Nikkei was booming, the Japanese bought into trophy Los Angeles properties at prices that were too high," said Stuart Gabriel, director of UCLA's Richard S. Ziman Center for Real Estate. "The regional downturn of the 1990s crushed them."

Despite the new arrivals, including the area's first supermarket, downtown remains the home of the country's largest skid row and parts are deserted after dark. That's why Gabriel strikes a cautionary note about the downtown housing rush. "If I were the developer of (Park Fifth), I'd be concerned about the timing of that play," said Gabriel. "You don't want to repeat the mistakes of Miami and San Diego."
     
     
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Bullish on Downtown L.A.'s Office Market


REVIVAL: The refurbished City National Plaza is no longer glutting the market. The form-
er Arco executive suites, above, are among the few plaza offices left to lease.
Richard Hartog / Los Angeles Times


Vacancy rates are falling and rents are rising, giving cause for continued optimism among landlords.

By Roger Vincent, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
October 29, 2007

Even as the trendy loft and condo market cools a bit in downtown Los Angeles, the glass-and-steel skyscrapers are filling up and street life is picking up after dark. Los Angeles architect Peter Devereaux is bringing his 150-employee firm to the heart of the city's financial district. "We felt that now -- and more so going into the future -- that it would be to the advantage of our employees to be located downtown," he said. "It has all the amenities, like fitness centers, restaurants and entertainment."

There's no better indicator of commercial revival than the City National Plaza office complex, which for years stood as a mostly empty symbol of the challenges faced by downtown. Its profile looked impressive, but there were many vacant offices in the shiny towers. Now the complex is mostly full.

Downtown had languished since the early 1990s, when the region suffered a steep recession. Developers anticipating an office boom had built millions of square feet before the crash, and the city's business district was left with a glut that only now shows signs of abating. "Imagine every fourth floor was empty," said broker Carl Muhlstein of Cushman & Wakefield. "We had a 25% vacancy factor."

Today the numbers that commercial developers watch are encouraging them. Downtown vacancy rates are dropping and rents are heading upward, new statistics show. Landlords say they are bullish unless a swift downturn in the economy is ahead.

As the office market tightens across much of Los Angeles County, according to recent statistics, some of the biggest downtown landlords are raising rents -- something almost unheard of three years ago. The county's office market has been evolving in landlords' favor for the last two years, said Muhlstein of Cushman & Wakefield, the brokerage that compiled the statistics. "Increases in rent during the last five years have greatly outstripped inflation," he said.

For years, rents in vacancy-plagued downtown lagged behind those in other popular office markets such as Century City, Santa Monica and Burbank. That may be about to change, in part because City National Plaza is no longer dragging down the market. Like a python that swallowed a pig, downtown has been trying to digest the two-tower complex since 2003, when Thomas Properties Group bought the landmark property occupying a city block on Flower Street across from the Central Library.

It had been one of the finest properties in the city for many years after it was completed in 1973 and became the headquarters of Arco, the petroleum company now owned by British oil giant BP. But it was maintained so poorly by its previous owners that it was no longer considered in competition with downtown's good-quality buildings. When Thomas Properties took over, the complex was close to 80% unoccupied, said Kent Handleman, a senior vice president at the Los Angeles company. Thomas Properties spent about $185 million to improve the neglected plaza and set out to snag tenants from every direction.

"We had to be very competitive," Handleman said, which meant other downtown landlords couldn't raise their rates much if they didn't want their tenants to jump ship. Now City National is mostly leased and the price war is over, Handleman said. "We used to be used as leverage against other landlords."

With little more than the plush former Arco executive offices left to lease, Thomas Properties is raising rents and downtown's two largest office landlords are among those following suit. Rents downtown will go up 4% to 5% by the end of the year, predicted Bill Flaherty, a senior vice president at Maguire Properties, which owns the most downtown office space.

"Downtown was a bargain for so many years," Flaherty said. "Now the Westside and other markets have had such rent increases that downtown is being pulled along with the strength of the overall L.A. County market."

Average monthly office rents are $2.81 per square foot, up noticeably from $2.48 a year ago but still well below the $5 average in Westwood and Santa Monica, according to Cushman & Wakefield. Consequently, "downtown is enjoying an influx of Westside tenants," broker Muhlstein said.

Engineering firm Psomas will be heading there from West Los Angeles in December. Investment banking firm Bear, Stearns & Co. recently opened a downtown office to complement its Century City branch.

Many other leases, however, reflect expansions of downtown local businesses or moves of a few blocks from one building to another. "A lot of people on the Westside think downtown is dangerous, but here everything is new," Handleman said, citing the $2.5-billion L.A. Live entertainment and hotel complex being built next to Staples Center and the recently opened Ralphs supermarket. The 7,100-seat Nokia Theatre opened at L.A. Live recently, and construction is set to begin in December on the $2-billion Grand Avenue mixed-use development on Bunker Hill.

Doubts remain among some urban planners over whether these huge venues can actually help the surrounding sections of downtown grow and thrive, though. Many patrons simply drive in to see a concert and then drive out again, not stopping to participate in the night life of downtown. Nevertheless, the construction boom that has added thousands of apartments and condominiums in the last few years is also changing the atmosphere by attracting more foot traffic and small businesses, observers said.

"It's been an amazing transformation," said attorney Mark Baute, who has had an office downtown since 1986 and recently signed another lease. "There is more going on."

Condo sales have "been a little weaker" in recent months and some developers have brought their prices down or offered incentives such as discounted closing fees, said agent Kerry Marsico of Coldwell Banker. "But overall, prices are strong," he said, and foreign buyers and wealthy individuals in particular are still very active.

Real estate broker Jonathan Larsen of Transwestern Commercial Services said he represented several Westside companies that were considering relocating downtown and estimated that a business that rented 50,000 square feet could save $1 million a year by doing so. "But I'm still skeptical that the market is tightening the way big landlords think it is," Larsen said. With downtown vacancy more than 15%, there are still a lot of offices to choose from, especially for smaller tenants, and much of the leasing still involves tenants moving from one downtown building to another.

"When somebody gets arrogant," he said of landlords, "we look elsewhere."

Downtown's second-largest office landlord, Brookfield Properties, insists that the momentum is in owners' favor. "This was the busiest summer any of us have ever experienced," said Tony Manos, head of Southern California operations. Among the tenants negotiating deals now are firms with leases that don't expire until 2009. "Their advisors are sensing that rates are going to be very different in '09 than they are today," Manos said.

If the current trend does continue, Maguire Properties may break ground on the first new high-rise office tower downtown since 1992. The real estate investment trust's announcement last year that it was planning a building on Figueroa Street was greeted with skepticism, but Flaherty insisted the project was on track. "We continue to work on it as a very real project," he said. "If the market stays on course, we could break ground within two years."
     
     
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Like I said before, trying to overhaul the current auto-oriented lifestyle in Southern California to something akin to Tokyo is insurmountable (as long as there is a force called "cheap oil," people will CHOOSE to drive and choose not to invest in subways). LA's cultural composition is filled with conflicting forces and no leadership with the guts to truly change that. As long as people have single family houses in the middle of the city and cheap oil to run their automobiles, LA's middle class will perpetuate the car culture city.
The auto centric nature of LA & the crowded fwys are a big joke. However, if you----& I'm not referring to you personally, LAB, as much as I'm referring to locals in general----feel that transit should be our No 1, 2, 3 priorities, you're setting yourself up for disappointment. That's cuz the $$ for projs like extending the red line, & the work---inc the politics---required to get such proposals finalized are going to take a loooong time to put together. I don't wanna burst your optimism, but if you're being realistic about this issue you'd have to admit that we'll probably all be old & gray by the time we can ride the subway to SaMo.

Of course there's the Expo line, which at least will be completed before the next 1000 yrs, & the extension of the Gold line. But even parts of those projs won't be ready for passengers for several more yrs. And they by themselves won't really give enough of a boost to our transit needs anymore than the completion of the gold to Pasadena already has done. Even the Red Line to North hollywood, not to mention the Blue Line, still hasn't been enough to make lots of ppl give up their cars. Worse of all, some ppl still aren't aware that LA even has a subway.

It's also simplistic to believe that transit is the key to turning around hoods like DT, or that rail/buses/trolleys/trains are more important than plans that involve cleaning up a hood, inc ones that result in the removal of gaps & deadzones. One reason for this?

LA started to sprawl even back in the early 1900s, when the only way that ppl got around was on the Red cars. So ironically enough, a better transit system, which was dismantled decades ago, encouraged ppl to move to hoods far outside of DT.

I think the main, & original, factor that made lots of ppl wanna leave hoods throughout central LA----or the main trigger for burbanization----were that such ppl didn't think areas like those were nice enough, or weren't nice at all, to keep them rooted. So it was easier for them to pick up & move out. That's why if the problems hinted at by this aren't eventually turned around & eliminated, a better transit system may do no more than encourage even larger numbers of ppl to move as far as possible beyond the city limits of LA.

And if gas prices do rocket, & cars become a dinosaur, ppl may choose to hibernate or cocoon in their pockets of LA-SoCA, avoiding hoods like DT as much as possible. That will be even likelier to happen if such hoods never are cleaned up & improved enough to begin with.
     
     
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