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Old Posted Oct 25, 2007, 9:35 PM
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no, but the first 300 customers get a cute tote bag!

today's the day.

i bet the store is hectic as FECK.

i'm so not looking forward to closing tomorrow night.

word on the street is that sometimes the employees will stay till 2am making sure the store looks "perfect" for the next day.

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Old Posted Oct 26, 2007, 3:50 PM
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Condo project loses its star
Architect Libeskind cuts ties to developer, citing nonpayment.
By Mary Lynne Vellinga - [email protected]
Published 12:00 am PDT Friday, October 26, 2007
http://www.sacbee.com/101/story/454810.html

Billboards featuring the bemused face of star architect Daniel Libeskind have disappeared from downtown street corners, and so have plans by Denver developer Craig Nassi to build two Libeskind buildings here.

First, Nassi's Aura condominium project on the Capitol Mall ran into trouble. Now the head of BCN Development says he can't find financing for the 50-story Epic condo and hotel tower he planned for 12th and I streets, either.

Last week, a lawyer representing Libeskind and the local office of architecture firm Stantec Inc. sent a letter to Nassi terminating their relationship for nonpayment.

"Design professionals do not have the ability to continue working for free," said the letter from lawyer John Condrey, a copy of which was provided to the city.

In an e-mail Thursday, Nassi characterized the letter as a "routine" part of shutting down the city approval process for Epic for lack of funding.

"We still have a great relationship and are in talks about other projects in the country and the world," he said of Libeskind.

"Sacramento's economy is so depressed at the moment, we can't get lenders to consider any projects at this time," he said.

"It's frustrating, but we have to hold off on burning the fire until we know lenders will participate in the projects. We are still working daily to try to find lenders who have the same vision as us."

The break comes less than two weeks after Nassi appeared at the Sacramento City Planning Commission to get input on the Epic project. At the meeting, he showed off a new three-dimensional model of the Libeskind design for Epic that he trundled around the room in a case.

He told the commissioners that he was "off and running" with his sales team, and that Epic had a design and price range that were "achievable to build."

Yet his relationship with Libeskind in Sacramento was nearing an end.

Lawyer Condrey wrote the city Sept. 17, saying Libeskind and Stantec had "terminated" their relationship with Nassi, and were "asserting their right to halt work utilizing their copyrighted intellectual property."

The letter asks that "all plans and renderings" for the Epic project be returned or destroyed.

After that letter was sent, Stantec told the city to disregard the correspondence while it tried to work things out with Nassi, said Planning Manager David Kwong.

But then, on Oct. 19, their lawyer fired off a new letter confirming that Libeskind and Stantec were no longer working for Nassi, and that the application for Epic should be withdrawn.

"Architects of record regret that events have led to this necessary action," the Oct. 19 letter stated.

Aura and Epic were designed by Libeskind, who vaulted to fame after he was chosen to do the master plan for the World Trade Center reconstruction.

On both local buildings, the soaring glass facades were cut by sweeping lines created by balconies and other elements.

Kwong said the application for Epic has been withdrawn, though the city plans to keep Libeskind's drawings on file as part of its public records.

As for the Aura project, Planning Department spokeswoman Jill Scofield said it remains approved and ready to go if and when Nassi decides to build it. The city had agreed to lend Nassi $10 million, but pulled back the offer in August after he failed to meet a deadline to secure his financing.

"We're ready to issue building permits on Aura," Scofield said. "It's up to the developer to come pull them. But we haven't heard about any movement on that, either."

The scrapheap of high-rises planned for Sacramento before the real estate market collapsed is starting to pile up. Libeskind's creations join the twin 53-story hotel and condominium towers formerly planned for the Capitol Mall by local developer John Saca.

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Old Posted Oct 26, 2007, 3:57 PM
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Like this is suprising. It's been said on here many times, but you have to wonder how Nassi actually earns money.
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2007, 4:10 PM
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Your right its not suprising, but it is still disappointing. Nassi is something else
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2007, 4:26 PM
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I think it's ironic that during one of the biggest housing booms in recent memory, the only highrises going up are office. Hopefully at least Sacramento will now be better poised to reap the benefits when the next boom hits.
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2007, 4:30 PM
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I would imagine this would be the last we hear from Mr Nassi. His name has to carry zero credibility in this town considering all the BS he and his sales team have shoveled around here. With Saca, even though his project imploded more spectaularly, at least I got the sense he was always being upfront and honest to the best of his ability about the status. Nassi always seemed to be a used car salesman of a developer.
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2007, 4:32 PM
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Did Nassi/BCN ever own the land where Epic was proposed?

I don't have a vast knowledge of these things, but I wonder if Nassi is the
least successful developer of all time?
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2007, 4:36 PM
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Well on the positive side, Saca will have a much easier time getting the Intercontinental if the Metro goes up
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2007, 4:47 PM
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I don't have a vast knowledge of these things, but I wonder if Nassi is the
least successful developer of all time?
Yeah, I would have to think he's up there. I wonder which town he will get run out of next- first Denver, then Reno, and now Sac. Anyone want to place some odds?
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2007, 5:11 PM
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2007, 5:29 PM
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Did Nassi/BCN ever own the land where Epic was proposed?

I don't have a vast knowledge of these things, but I wonder if Nassi is the
least successful developer of all time?
I believe Taylor has always held the title with option to sell to Nassi.
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a couple of things

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I think it's ironic that during one of the biggest housing booms in recent memory, the only highrises going up are office. Hopefully at least Sacramento will now be better poised to reap the benefits when the next boom hits.
A) I like how the article, although very expected, focuses on the architect instead of the main object: the fact that both projects are dead.

B) I don't think a boom is necessarily needed to create high rise living downtown. I really think sustainable growth is the way to go. This town has a very cyclical nature, that I am aware of. But feast or famine creates problems. Maybe a boom will create a high rise or two but when the bust comes they will be empty. I don't think its a "if you build it they will come" kind of downtown yet. Midtown has tremendous pull but downtown is so run down. Not as fashionable as some developers would like you to think it is.
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2007, 10:08 PM
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What is the status of The Metropolitan and Cathedral Square? Aren't they both in the 20+ floor range? All we need is a few small projects to be sucessful downtown and it will prove to lenders that downtown condos can be sucessful here.

What we really need is for someone to build one without funding or minimum funding. Isn't Tsakopolis building 500 CM without funding?
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2007, 10:13 PM
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Catherdal Square is on hold because the developers are waiting for that
hypothetical "perfect day" to build their building. Of course as soon as they
smell a boom coming, start building, and two years later are ready to start
selling, that won't sound so brilliant. I'm sure Saca will agree.
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2007, 10:17 PM
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Sac Buisness Journal version

Daniel Libeskind Studios and Stantec Consulting Inc. have pulled out of the Epic condominium tower proposed for 12th and J streets in a dispute over pay, effectively killing the financially strapped project.

Libeskind and Stantec were the architects of record for Epic, which was to have been Denver-area developer Craig Nassi's second condo tower in Sacramento after the high-profile Aura on Capitol Mall. In an Oct. 19 letter, provided by the city of Sacramento, they said they had terminated their relationship with Nassi on Epic.

That has led Nassi to pull the Epic out of the city's approval process, staff said.

Nassi had asked the city about a month ago to resume processing of applications for Epic, but he was not able to finance the project or remain in contract with the architects, according to the city.

The Aura project on Capitol Mall, another Libeskind design, is technically still alive, but Nassi and his BCN Development have been unable to secure financing for that project either.

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Old Posted Oct 26, 2007, 10:19 PM
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Thats right I forgot about that....

Thats so retarded, I am fairly sure they could start selling right now and still succeeed. What is the harm in at least trying to sell now? Don't want spend money on a marketing campaign?

We REALLY need someone to just fund an entire project... hopefully Saca will come through with The Metropolitan.
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2007, 10:22 PM
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and watch Thomas Enterprises and The River District/Township 9 groups put
over 2,000 high density housing units on the downtown market in 5 years.
i wonder what sort of effect that would have on highrise development?
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2007, 10:25 PM
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^^ If it were guaranteed (and by high density you mean 5-8 floor minimum each), I'd take that over the "chance" of 2-3 high rise condos.
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2007, 10:34 PM
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That's their plan... and I agree.

My point being that the developers waiting right now may find themselves
dead in the water by the time the market wakes them up. When instead,
they could be working on their next project.

I don't get the wait and see mentality. Nothing is ever accomplished by
sitting on your ass and watching the world go by.
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