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Old Posted Oct 24, 2007, 4:15 AM
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A city really has to crawl before it can walk. As seen over the past decade, an increasing amount of construction happens every year. We can't really expect Toronto-style apartment towers all over the city...yet. It might be a way off yet, but we'll eventually see similar projects like the ones in Halifax.

Hopefully not too far into the future.
indeed...I just hope we dont sprawl to the size of calgary at the same time haha, would be nice to see more mid-high density projects on the table.
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indeed...I just hope we dont sprawl to the size of calgary at the same time haha, would be nice to see more mid-high density projects on the table.
You can say that again.

Maybe they'll strike oil under Kent County...
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2007, 5:21 AM
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You can say that again.

Maybe they'll strike oil under Kent County...
haha yeah...

heres a cool pic of Moncton from '72...when there was some high density stuff going on

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haha yeah...

heres a cool pic of Moncton from '72...when there was some high density stuff going on

That's incredible, STU! Where'd you find that?
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That's incredible, STU! Where'd you find that?
Thanks!...its From a pdf file about assumption life (special history thing for thier 100th anniversary).

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http://www.assumption.ca/media_uploads/pdf/24.pdf
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Downtown Moncton 'seizing opportunities'
Lobbying for new justice centre and inclusion of St. George Street are in the group's future plans

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Published Wednesday October 24th, 2007
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There was optimism in the air yesterday as Downtown Moncton Centre-ville Inc. (DMCI) held their fall business meeting and discussed the positive strides that have taken place in the past year. Among other things, members talked of "seizing opportunities" in further development of Moncton's downtown core.

"We have first rate hotels, restaurants, night clubs, pubs, theatres, boutiques and all within walking distance -- And we should be proud of that," said Ben Champoux, business development specialist for the city of Moncton.

"When you create investment like that and you create jobs, it means more and more people come downtown, and more importantly, more and more people want to live in the downtown," he said.

A number of local business owners, community members, DMCI board members and local politicians gathered at the Moncton Press Club yesterday to hear an update on the progress of DMCI's vision plan, to accept their proposed 2008 budget and to hear details on the future of the downtown core -- including the impending inclusion of St. George Street as part of the city's main hub.

Highlighting developments such as the new Vaughan Harvey extension and the arrival and continuing prosperity of many businesses in the downtown core, DMCI Executive Director Daniel Allain said the vision plan created last year is being put into action.

"You just don't want a vision plan that is just on the shelf and not doing anything. The objective of our vision plan is to communicate it. It's a living document," he said.

From updating municipal plan and zoning bylaws to mapping out the appropriate budgets, those involved with DMCI have been working hard to make a reality out of the vision plan's ideas of a more prosperous downtown Moncton.

One of DMCI's biggest initiatives will come to a head on Nov 5, when the proposed expansion of the business improvement area to include St. George Street will be discussed in a public forum in front of city council.

The decision would make St. George Street part of the city's downtown core, and would allow for further beautification, commercial development and safety of the street, as part of DMCI's mandate.

DMCI also announced their budget for the 2008 year. With revenues and expenses equaling slightly over $500,000, Allain said their goal is to maintain a balanced budget, despite surpluses in previous years.

"There are always new expenses that crop up, but the board has been very fiscally prudent. This year we hope to spend the money we are allotted," he said.

Maura McKinnon, DMCI president, said the organization has a number of goals for the upcoming year, including continual lobbying for the construction of a new justice centre and conference centre, relocation and expansion of RCMP Headquarters and development of a new arena in downtown Moncton.

McKinnon also outlined DMCI's strategic plan for 2008 to 2010, which she referred to as "seizing opportunities". Included amongst the future plans is a focus on developing in available space and updating existing infrastructure, making the downtown a better location for residential development and taking steps to revitalize retail in the downtown core.

"We want to create and define what downtown shopping is. People are looking for experiences today, not just transactions. So it's a holistic approach that we need to take to create a downtown shopping experience." Mayor Lorne Mitton was on hand and was thanked by Allain for his hard work and teamwork with DMCI. Mitton said he is happy to see DMCI's efforts working towards a better downtown.

"We learn from them first hand what the needs are, try to accommodate where we can, and work together where we can," he said.

Despite the positives, Mitton said it's hardly time to get complacent in downtown Moncton.

"There's a lot more work to do yet, a lot of projects to do. There's no slowing down -- it's full force ahead," he said.
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haha yeah...

heres a cool pic of Moncton from '72...when there was some high density stuff going on
Awesome find, thanks you
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Dieppe - Fox Creek Project

The phase 1 and phase 2 will include more than 862 residential lands, a new hotel, condos, new golf course and commercial spaces along Champlain Blvd.



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Fox Creek de Dieppe: des projets de 350 millions $

DIEPPE - Le secteur Fox Creek de Dieppe grandit. La phase 2 du développement atteindra une valeur d’environ 350 millions $ une fois terminée, créant ainsi un quartier d’importance d’ici quelques années. Les promoteurs souhaitent en faire un "village" dans la cité.

Le projet inclut 862 terrains résidentiels évalués entre 40 000 $ et 100 000 $, plusieurs commerces le long du boulevard Dieppe, un hôtel, des copropriétés (condos) et l’aménagement d’un nouveau terrain de golf de neuf trous.
"On veut créer une sorte de village qui va devenir comme un centre, pour faire de Fox Creek un genre de secteur de villégiature. Tu peux y rester, tu peux jouer et tu peux aussi faire tes commissions", explique le directeur général de Terramine Development, Michel LeBlanc.

La phase 1 de Fox Creek, estimée à 75 millions $, comprend un terrain de golf de 18 trous, 110 terrains résidentiels maintenant habités et 75 autres en préparation.

Selon le directeur du développement de l’entreprise familiale, Maurice LeBlanc, le projet en entier pourrait être terminé d’ici 12 à 15 ans.

La première partie de la deuxième phase de développement du secteur comprend 94 terrains résidentiels et commerciaux à l’est du boulevard Dieppe. Les premiers seront prêts ce printemps ou, dans le meilleur des mondes, cet automne. Des espaces verts, des parcs et des sentiers de marche font partie des plans.

Les travaux de préparation des cinq futures rues sont entamés. Ils sont sur la glace, le temps que les ingénieurs de la Ville confirment aux promoteurs quelques détails techniques. Les plans préliminaires de la première partie de la phase 2 ont été déposés à la Ville. Le sujet sera apporté à la réunion du conseil municipal du 5 novembre.

Le type d’entreprise pour chaque emplacement commercial à l’est du boulevard Dieppe a été déterminé. Les promoteurs veulent y voir des boutiques, des restaurants, des pharmacies, des salons d’esthétique et des bureaux de professionnels. D’après MM. LeBlanc, la viabilité de ces entreprises sera assurée par les résidants du futur quartier.

Des négociations ont lieu avec des investisseurs intéressés à y construire un l’hôtel. Deux immeubles de copropriétés de 38 unités font partie du projet, pour lesquels ils devront aussi trouver des promoteurs.

Les LeBlanc pensent à ce projet depuis plus de cinq ans.

"On savait que ça s’en venait, mais on n’était pas prêt (à l’annoncer)", explique le directeur général.

Pour que le réseau d’eau et d’égouts de Dieppe desserve les futures résidences à l’est du boulevard Dieppe, la Ville a fait une demande au gouvernement pour annexer le territoire, auparavant désigné comme DSL. La province a acquiescé. Les nouvelles constructions représenteront pour la Ville des revenus considérables en taxes.

En bref... Le principe de village urbain suscite beaucoup d’intérêt dans la région. Outre Fox Creek, un autre village de ce type doit voir le jour dans la haute ville de Dieppe, près du futur centre aquatique. Ce projet du consortium Concorde Atlantique est évalué à 100 millions $ et doit commencer à prendre forme dès l’année prochaine...

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$450 million for two projects...Dieppe is on one hell of a roll. I'm a little uncertain about the part where they're talking about annexation. What community owns the land east of Dieppe?
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$450 million for two projects...Dieppe is on one hell of a roll. I'm a little uncertain about the part where they're talking about annexation. What community owns the land east of Dieppe?
Good question, the article just pointed out the land was a DSL, it did not mention which city/community was the owner.

Those projects are great for Dieppe, however,could you imagine what those millions could be for Downtown Moncton. Acadian developers are really willing.

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Good question, the article just pointed out the land was a DSL, it did not mention which city/community was the owner.

Those projects are great for Dieppe, however,could you imagine what those millions could be for Downtown Moncton. Acadian developers are really willing.
yeah...really too bad. The ammount of money being spent on suburban projects is nuts compared to urban.
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2007, 1:54 AM
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Good question, the article just pointed out the land was a DSL, it did not mention which city/community was the owner.

Those projects are great for Dieppe, however,could you imagine what those millions could be for Downtown Moncton. Acadian developers are really willing.
Wonder what a DSL is...

Dieppe seems to take the exact opposite to Moncton when it comes to construction; at least at the civic level. Moncton tends to be a whole lot more conservative with its money, waiting for federal funding that will never come and the like. Dieppe just spends like crazy!
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Wonder what a DSL is...

Dieppe seems to take the exact opposite to Moncton when it comes to construction; at least at the civic level. Moncton tends to be a whole lot more conservative with its money, waiting for federal funding that will never come and the like. Dieppe just spends like crazy!
Thats why the citizens formed a group to be a watchdog...Dieppe is the fastest growing CSD in atlantic canada and also the most in debt (last i heard) pretty sad, but hey...moncton city council is on the other end of that spectrum...they are too scared to invest in ANYTHING...and sometimes they are to afraid to even accept others who want to invest (ie the failed deal with assumption in favor of stupid idiotic veridoc, which also pissed off Bernard Cyr at the same time, who wanted to spend lots of $$ downtown) hopefully this convention center study will straighten them out a bit.
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Thats why the citizens formed a group to be a watchdog...Dieppe is the fastest growing CSD in atlantic canada and also the most in debt (last i heard) pretty sad, but hey...moncton city council is on the other end of that spectrum...they are too scared to invest in ANYTHING...and sometimes they are to afraid to even accept others who want to invest (ie the failed deal with assumption in favor of stupid idiotic veridoc, which also pissed off Bernard Cyr at the same time, who wanted to spend lots of $$ downtown) hopefully this convention center study will straighten them out a bit.
Agree, back then Moncton city council made plenty of mistakes in a row. The city renewed at least four times the deal with Verdiroc between 2000 and 2005, even though to the last meeting Assumption has introduced a high-profile project ( Pedways, courthouse, parking garage, Hotel, convention center) . When the city woke up, it was just too late, the government has purchased the land from Verdiroc for the so-called courthouse.Today the city is continuing to pay the high price for his lack of vision.

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Agree, back then Moncton city council made plenty of mistakes in a row. The city renewed at least four times the deal with Verdiroc between 2000 and 2005, even though to the last meeting Assumption has introduced a high-profile project ( Pedways, courthouse, parking garage, Hotel, convention center) . When the city woke up, it was just too late, the government has purchased the land from Verdiroc for the so-called courthouse.Today the city is continuing to pay the high price for his lack of vision.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Personally, I've been following this Verdiroc deal since the beginning. I've never really had a lot of confidence in any of it.
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Wonder what a DSL is...

Dieppe seems to take the exact opposite to Moncton when it comes to construction; at least at the civic level. Moncton tends to be a whole lot more conservative with its money, waiting for federal funding that will never come and the like. Dieppe just spends like crazy!
Agree with you, Dieppe needs a safeguard in his budget expenditure and the conservative will never give money for the convention center.
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Personally, I've been following this Verdiroc deal since the beginning. I've never really had a lot of confidence in any of it.
Samething for me, I never had any confidence. At the end of the day, Mike Harris is a lobbyist for Verdiroc while being a good friend of Bernard Lord... maybe its one of the reason why the city kept going with Verdiroc.
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Samething for me, I never had any confidence. At the end of the day, Mike Harris is a lobbyist for Verdiroc while being a good friend of Bernard Lord... maybe its one of the reason why the city kept going with Verdiroc.
That's always a possibility. I think you'd go crazy though, if you tried to find every connection like that. Six degrees of separation is a very real force in the world.
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That's always a possibility. I think you'd go crazy though, if you tried to find every connection like that. Six degrees of separation is a very real force in the world.
Of course, so its not from me, it came from CBC and Acadie Nouvelle as well. My focal point is the fact I would like seeing a sustainable use of the downtown core lands. Anyway... life goes on.

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