Salt Lake:Official development news thread

[SLC Projects]

Ok I now know what building you guys are talking about. LOL. Just took me awhile.

So where is this building getting moved too? Is it going on that big parking lot across the street? That would be great since that block needs to have something other then just parking.

[SLC Projects]

Also I think today is the day crews are putting up the new "Walker" sign ontop of the Walker Center building. Can't wait to see how that will turn out.

[delts145]

I think we were recently wondering what this former proposal looked like and where we had seen it. Kind of cool in many respects. Note the Hamilton logo at the top of what would have been our new tallest. I think the fact that First Security did not merge with Zions,(as Zions Bank was pushing for) and instead sold to and merged with Wells Fargo, killed this project. Is that correct?

Zions Social Hall Center

[millhouse]

Originally Posted by SLC Projects

So where is this building getting moved too? Is it going on that big parking lot across the street? That would be great since that block needs to have something other then just parking.

The building is being moved directly across the street into the parking lot.
As others have stated I also think we need to save the port-o-call building. To often we see these beautiful buildings torn down in the name of progress Im all for progress but lets keep some examples of architecture for our kids.

[Viperlord]

There was an article in the SLenterprise today titled

"Downtown SLC condos appreciate 24 percent in 12 months"

Good news.

[RC14]

I,also think the cube design is unforgivable.
Another benefit to building a more vertical courthouse is that it would free up more land.

Oh, and anyone who designs a cube shaped building in the future should have their college degree revoked.

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by Viperlord

There was an article in the SLenterprise today titled

"Downtown SLC condos appreciate 24 percent in 12 months"

Good news.

I would love to have a copy of that article if anyone would be willing to pdf the actual print article for me. It would help out tremendously for some research I am doing.

[delts145]

Originally Posted by RC14

I,also think the cube design is unforgivable.
Another benefit to building a more vertical courthouse is that it would free up more land.

Oh, and anyone who designs a cube shaped building in the future should have their college degree revoked.

Agreed Or at least they had better do a SOMETHING interesting with the cube.

[jmonkey]

I know we've had this conversation about the federal courthouse on this site before--perhaps it was before you guys joined up, since this project has been in development since 1996.

Dating back to post 9/11, the federal government decided that new construction would have to take more stringent security protocols into consideration. There were some earlier renderings of this project that were quite different, but which left the Shubrick intact and built around the Odd Fellows Hall. It was quickly realized that moving the Odd Fellows Hall would be more feasible. (btw, it will also be turned 180 degrees when it is moved across the street!--now, that will be a sight to see!) The old courthouse, which was originally built as a post office, will be retained and restored.

The City Weekly made quite a fuss a few years ago about being forced out of their location on 400 South to make way for construction, though they seem to be a much better fit now above Sam Wellers on Main Street. Finally, the feds turned their eyes to the Shubrick (built as hotel/apartments in 1912), citing security concerns. The owners raised a stink at first, but quickly sold out; the feds were supported in this acquisition by all the big elected republicans in Utah, because after all, it's just an evil bar. I remember ranting at the time on how they left out the moat, minefield, barbed wire and German Shephards. This was around the time of that unfortunate 'Borg cube' rendering.

A set of renderings has been released since the one just pictured, that put the building in a much better light. It's very bittersweet to lose the Shubrick, though I think that if the federal government had to stop, and reconsider their plan yet again, it would push this project back to sometime in the 2020's. Good god, let's just build this thing already. I would imagine the newer set of renderings is somewhere in this thread, though god knows where--they really are much, much better than the ones you are looking at now. And I don't really like the courthouse in Cleveland, btw; it is a very awkward looking tower, IMO.

[Comrade]

I remember the original renderings. The building was far from being as dominant as it would be under the new design.

But that doesn't mean I like the new proposal. Just because it's better than the past one does not make it the best option. The problem here is that the building will still like a huge ice cube sitting in the lower part of Salt Lake's skyline. Maybe it'll look better when finished, but the design just isn't what I consider good.

[urbanboy]

Why can't we have something like this:

An architect's rendering shows the exterior design of the annex, consisting of a decorative granite base, limestone, brick, and glass.

This is the West Virginia Courthouse annex. The scale of this building would be much better for market street. If there is a need for a high-rise, the sides abutting 400 S. or West Temple could be taller. Also, I don't mind waiting a few extra years for it to be done right.

Also, why is it taking so long to put up the Walker Center Tower! Do they love to tease us!

[RC14]

^
That courthouse looks good but it needs to be taller and take up less space.
I agree that I don't mind waiting as long as it will be built right, I'm not sure I want to wait t'll 2020, but I want more then just a giant steel cube in the skyline.

[urbanboy]

Originally Posted by RC14

^
That courthouse looks good but it needs to be taller and take up less space.
I agree that I don't mind waiting as long as it will be built right, I'm not sure I want to wait t'll 2020, but I want more then just a giant steel cube in the skyline.

What do you mean by "take up less space?"

I said it could be taller on the west temple and/or 400 s. streets

[Sight-Seer]

After the bombing in Oklahoma City, they increased the security requirements. There can't be any buildings next to it and it has to be a certain distance from the street. That's why they had to move or demolish nearby buildings. What you'll have is an isolated building with tightly controlled access.

[rodan]

Interesting development in SSL with a small rendering of the planned 25 story structure on the link.

http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_7198812?source=rv

South Salt Lake weighs a major makeover
By Steve Gehrke
The Salt Lake Tribune
Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated:10/16/2007 11:50:01 PM MDT
A 25-story apartment building soon could tower over South Salt Lake, a community more accustomed to mom-and-pop stores than high-rise developments.
As part of an 18-acre, mixed-use project just south of the 2100 South light-rail station, between State and Main streets, the apartment complex would dwarf this suburb's other structures, including the five-story Granite School District headquarters.
"It will totally change the face of South Salt Lake in a positive way," said Councilman Shane Siwik. "It'll just give us a real shot in the arm. It's the wow factor that we've needed for a long time."
The City Council, which already has approved a special zone for the project, is poised to enter a development agreement tonight that would welcome the estimated half-billion-dollar "Market Station" venture. The project would take five to seven years to complete and could include as many as 850 residential units, along with pocket parks, a small grocery store, fitness center, day care and restaurants.
"It's going to be unlike anything in Utah," developer Steve Aste of Park City said Tuesday. "It's not [The] Gateway; it's not any of these other supposed lifestyle centers."
It could be the reverse of The Gateway. Just take the 40-acre, retail-oriented development on downtown Salt Lake City's west side - with its 400 or so residential units - and flip the focus to highlight living over shopping.
"This has accommodations for everyday living," said Aste, who is a principal of Cascade Development Partners in Park City. "All your daily needs will be met there."
Aste, who is partnering with Los Angeles-based West Millennium Homes on the project, wants it to cater to a diverse group of people.
South Salt Lake plans to kick in a "substantial amount" of Redevelopment Agency funds to help with some infrastructure, according to Councilman Mike Rutter.
Exactly how much aid remains in question, but those amounts could be worked out in the development agreement. Rutter said RDA funds will help with such needs as sewer, water, roads and bringing additional transit.
A streetcar - essentially a slower, quieter TRAX line with more frequent stops - is expected to run through the development east to Sugar House. The project area is about a block from the Central Pointe TRAX stop.
Some officials predict that Market Station will have a huge impact on the city.
Councilwoman Marilyn Brusch said her colleagues are "in awe" of the proposal, which she hopes will give the city a downtown feel.
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[urbanboy]

Hey everyone, here is the architect's website, with renderings of the proposed Courthouse.

http://www.tphifer.com/

It might possibly be a cool skin, as long as it is all transparent, including the vertical elements. However, I do not like the placement of the upper windows; I do not like the walls on 400 South and West Temple streets, these pose a safety threat to pedestrians by preventing surveillance, or "eyes on the street" (this design might keep people in the complex safe, but it alienates everyone on the outside and places them in a vulnerable state); I do not like the lack of a buffer zone between the sidewalk and street, which also poses a safety threat to pedestrians (the trees should be planted between the sidewalk and the street, rather than being planted between the sidewalk and wall (which I think should be removed!).

[Viperlord]

alright guys, I have edited my very first post on this thread. It now includes a list of projects and renderings. I will try to keep it updated as much as possible, and add in more information as I get it.



-I found this rendering of the Occam Lofts. Its proposed on 500 west and 250 south roughly.


-The crane for the Broadway park lofts is up in the sky as well.

-Also, if anyone is interested there is a wasatch properties "now leasing" sign up on the parking lot on state street and 400 south. I didnt really have a chance to look at it because i was driving. But I'm sure it had a number to call on it. It could be one of two things. It could be a leasing sign for the new mixed use project. Or it could be a lease sign for the city chambers building. Who knows. lol. So, if someone wants to head on down and check it out, maybe give the number a call they are more than welcome too.

-the 222 South main hole keeps getting bigger by the day.

[rodan]

Hell yeah that list rocks man thanks viperlord! It gets me all excited about what is happening downtown! It's going to be a great place to be for the next few years.

I also think that courthouse looks pretty cool for a box. I guess I'm the only one haha.

[urbanboy]

Hey Viperlord, thanks for the updated version of your original post.
When you have a moment, could you include an address (doesn't have to be exact) on each development in your list? It would be very helpful.

[delts145]

Procter & 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 Co. picks Utah / Groundbreaking expected in early 2008

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695219619,00.html

http://www.sltrib.com//ci_7209253?IADID=Search-www.sltrib.com-www.sltrib.com



The Box Elder County plant north of Bear River City is expected to be an initial $300 million investment with approxinmately 300 employees, on its way to 1,000 employees a few years later.

related : 'Win' praised

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695219607,00.html

"This is a huge win for the state of Utah, and the positive impacts of it are going to be felt for generations to come," said Jason Perrry, executive director of the Governor's Office of Economic Development. "This is the kind of company that really builds communities...

..."It's going to have a great impact on our schools, our work force and our entire economy...

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