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  #1821  
Old Posted Sep 19, 2007, 11:35 PM
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Just checked out the construction web cam. The FT core is coming along quite nicely
The tower isn't rising so I don't know why it would be nice.
     
     
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That Crown is the Perfect Touch..., It helps the FT taper into it's spire nicely....
From that angle. From other angles it would be horrible. Besides...its nto ACTUALLY supposed to be a crown. FT has enough trouble as it is imo.
     
     
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With that crown it kind of looks like a bishop of something. Cute thought, but... NO.
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IMO the crown looks cool. The best thing is it hides some part of the spire, therefore making it appear that FT's not 'cheating', 'that' much, if you know what I mean.
     
     
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IMO the crown looks cool. The best thing is it hides some part of the spire, therefore making it appear that FT's not 'cheating', 'that' much, if you know what I mean.
Because you added a few flimsy rods around the already very massive, functional spire? No, I don't know what you "mean."
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Because you added a few flimsy rods around the already very massive, functional spire? No, I don't know what you "mean."


IMO, the Freedom Tower looks good with or without those. I can take it or leave it.

The first major improvement of this project, first and foremost, was getting rid of that awful birdcage design on top.

In the end, we finally got what most of us wanted anyway; A taller occupeid
portion of the tower that is just as tall as the old Twins, if not taller.

This way, the restaurant and obs deck are higher in the sky. That said, I'm quite happy with the present design without any further enhancements on the exterior of the tower.

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When is the tower actually supposed to start rising??? Sorry, I know this question has probably been asked plenty of times in this tread.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2007, 8:04 PM
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Then go back and read for yourself. I'm sure the answer is on the last page.
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Yes!! Or at least a few pages back.

Not trying to be a jerk to BigBird9, but yes he's right, this question HAS been asked a lot, and frankly, I've answered it lots of times and I'm kind of annoyed by it.

But, to save you the trouble, BigBird, early next year sometime.
     
     
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I understand, thanks for letting me know anyway. And I did search a few previous pages looking for the answer before I asked, but i geuss I'm blind or it just hasn't been asnwered for a few more pages back.

I can't wait to see it rise, I like the design, but I wish it would have been taller.
     
     
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So much info has been posted practically since the tower went into the construction phase that it's quite easy to miss or overlook certain things.

As for me, I'm glad that it's at the planned height. It (office portion) was going to be shorter at first.

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but I wish it would have been taller.
Its a pretty common opinion now.
     
     
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Its a pretty common opinion now.
The word "trite" comes to mind.
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Then go back and read for yourself. I'm sure the answer is on the last page.

Did you mean the FIRST page ??? You must really have your "hate on" to give a response like that to a simple question. Not everybody is abreast of what's going on with the Freedom Tower. Maybe it's someone who hasn't been on the forums for awhile & would like to be more involved ???
     
     
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^^^ Believe it or not, typing "early next year sometime" can by a really tough job for some people.
     
     
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^^^ Believe it or not, typing "early next year sometime" can by a really tough job for some people.


There are no precise dates given that I know of.

The tower WILL start rising though. This is just an educated or estimated guess as to when some more of the steel will arrive for the underground portion of the tower.

In any office tower being built in New York or elsewhere, times or dates given are usually always Estimated. Because they're not really sure themselves as to exactly WHEN things should happen or are expected to happen, even though they know things are coming. They also sometimes say On or about as well.

I think I read somewhere that there will be another celebration that would allow more people to sign their names on a few more of the columns or beams. But don't quote me on it. This might be just speculation.
     
     
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IMO the crown looks cool. The best thing is it hides some part of the spire, therefore making it appear that FT's not 'cheating', 'that' much, if you know what I mean.
People need to stop being so obsessed about exact height definitions. The crown does indeed integrate the spire into the design more; however, both are functional elements that are integral to the building's program.The degree to which the tower "cheats" is really pretty unimportant, unless it clashes with the design in a severe way.
     
     
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People need to stop being so obsessed about exact height definitions. The crown does indeed integrate the spire into the design more; however, both are functional elements that are integral to the building's program.The degree to which the tower "cheats" is really pretty unimportant, unless it clashes with the design in a severe way.


It seems that some are still having a hard time dealing with the fact that the spire finishes out the height of the tower and not the actual structure itself.

We got the same structural height that the Twins had. What more do they want?
     
     
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It seems that some are still having a hard time dealing with the fact that the spire finishes out the height of the tower and not the actual structure itself.

We got the same structural height that the Twins had. What more do they want?
They want a one mile high Burj of New York.
     
     
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