CHICAGO | Boom rundown - everything over 12 floors. v5 - Page 162

Chi_Coruscant · #**3221** Posted **Sep 17, 2007, 4:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by spyguy

I believe the caption mentioned it was designed by P/H.

I will not be surprised if Beitler will be forced to reduce the floor numbers. It has yet been presented to the community meetings. If it went through, this would be the tallest building on the north side of downtown.

Alliance · #**3222** Posted **Sep 17, 2007, 4:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by Nowhereman1280

Now here is a part of the plan that is just a vision on my part:
The area north and east of the bright green would represent an entrance for private condos that could be built on top of the floors the school can use. Lets say the school building floor use would go something like this:

1: entrances and retail

2-5: possible parking podium

6-15: Classrooms

15-20: Student services

21-45: Student Housing

45-60 mabye up to 70: Private Condominiums

That way we could get a possible supertall out of this!

Thats awesome.

I wouldn't push the below-grade parking either (plus it makes the building taller)

Nowhereman1280 · #**3223** Posted **Sep 17, 2007, 5:55 AM**

^^^ Yeah, again, that is just a vision on my part, they have already been talking 55 with no condos, so I figure, hey, add some condos and make it 75 or 80, or hell, just make it 100 while you are at it...

Anyhow, I hope I can find a way to influence their plans for this tower.

Nice picture spyguy, I take either the Loyola shuttle or the 147 bus past that site every Tuesday and Thursday and have really gained some respect for the lonely 40's or 50's style building on the south side of the block. Anyone know what building that is? I think its a really catchy design...

Dan in Chicago · #**3224** Posted **Sep 17, 2007, 6:45 AM**

That lonely building is 5601 North Sheridan, formerly known as The Statesman.

What looks like commie blocks in the rendering is the Brockton Apartments. (You can see it in the aerial photo.)

honte · #**3225** Posted **Sep 17, 2007, 12:27 PM**

^ Oh yeah, duh. The perspective and the fact that the Statesman and Edgewater Beach Apts. look like the twin towers north of Hollywood threw me off, I guess.

Or, maybe I just didn't want to admit that there would be this hulking parking podium facing the park? They could easily make the edge more subtle with some terraced (curved?) townhomes.

(PS - The Statesman rocks!)

the urban politician · #**3226** Posted **Sep 17, 2007, 1:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by honte

^ Oh yeah, duh. The perspective and the fact that the Statesman and Edgewater Beach Apts. look like the twin towers north of Hollywood threw me off, I guess.

Or, maybe I just didn't want to admit that there would be this hulking parking podium facing the park? They could easily make the edge more subtle with some terraced (curved?) townhomes.

(PS - The Statesman rocks!)

^ Agreed, that boxy parking podium really has the potential to ruin this project

SamInTheLoop · #**3227** Posted **Sep 17, 2007, 1:20 PM**

Just curious - did anyone here attend last week's SLN meeting? Did Fioretti
say anything actually noteworthy regarding planned high-rises, or did he merely
indulge in his favorite pastime - professional NIMBY pandering??

Marcu · #**3228** Posted **Sep 17, 2007, 4:03 PM**

The building would look great in Edgewater. A new landmark approaching Lake Shore Drive from the north. Make the parking podium a bit more interesting and it's a go. Edgewater is in bad need of a new modern glassy building to take attention away from the cheap looking high rise co-ops and senior homes that stain that part of the north side.

Tom Servo · #**3229** Posted **Sep 17, 2007, 6:39 PM**

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Chicago Shawn · #**3230** Posted **Sep 18, 2007, 2:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by spyguy

Yup...

The cream colored building with green glass at 5600 N. Sheridan will be getting a penthouse added to the roof. 3 units on the top floor will be combined into one super unit with a duplexed penthouse that will raise the roof height by 3 feet (above the existing mechanical penthouse) to a total of 207'-8". Its going to Plan Commison this Thursday for Lakefront Application approval. I have had the application with me for some time and have been meaning to add a floor overview to emporis with it.

Nowhereman1280 · #**3231** Posted **Sep 18, 2007, 3:12 AM**

^^^ Not the statesman right? The one across the street from there I assume?

Chicago Shawn · #**3232** Posted **Sep 18, 2007, 3:24 AM**

^Yes, 5600 N. is across from the Statesman (5601 N.).

aaron38 · #**3233** Posted **Sep 18, 2007, 3:53 AM**

This is a story about how to design a parking podium, and how not to design a parking podium.

The How To example is 600 N Fairbanks.

The base is clad in glass that matches the rest of the building, with tasteful silver metal screens to block the view of the cars. It's a parking podium, but it looks good.

Now for the How NOT TO example.

Yes, this featureless blank white wall is the parking podium for 550 St Clair. And it has turned out in reality to be worse than I had feared when I saw the render. Maybe people disagree with me, but I think it's hidious to the point where intervention is needed. Is it too late to demand a design change? I 'm serious, it's that bad.

honte · #**3234** Posted **Sep 18, 2007, 6:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by aaron38

This is a story about how to design a parking podium, and how not to design a parking podium.

The How To example is 600 N Fairbanks.

The base is clad in glass that matches the rest of the building, with tasteful silver metal screens to block the view of the cars. It's a parking podium, but it looks good.

Wow, I am really impressed. The last time I saw the building, the screens were not in place... it looked really bad.

I'm not expecting anyone to remember this, but I am surprised, as this is almost the exact solution I suggested in the Trump Tower thread when we were discussing the pros / cons of all-glass parking facilities. Of course, I was foolish to think I'd be the first to think of it - Jahn's office is too smart to just ignore this issue.

The ultimate glass parking solution, I think, would be to combine a screen system with a more reflective glass, such as that at Trump Tower. I do think that the screens are a bit too visible here during the day, which will give the tower the "parking podium effect" to some degree, even if the glass matches from top to bottom. A more reflective glass would make the building more seamless during the day, as we see at Trump.

harryc · #**3235** Posted **Sep 18, 2007, 10:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by honte

Wow, I am really impressed. The last time I saw the building, the screens were not in place... it looked really bad.

I'm not expecting anyone to remember this, but I am surprised, as this is almost the exact solution I suggested in the Trump Tower thread when we were discussing the pros / cons of all-glass parking facilities. Of course, I was foolish to think I'd be the first to think of it - Jahn's office is too smart to just ignore this issue.

...snip...

Honte: you assume they didn't take your suggestion and act on it very quickly

Another pitfall, don't design the lighting without the droids to replace the bulbs, Trump ramps. Some of these have been out for weeks now.

Dr. Taco · #**3236** Posted **Sep 18, 2007, 1:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by AdrianXSands

i love the Joffrey tower. and i think b36 and b37 and this will give state a really nice feel when it's all done.

hey, nice pic, i love the density, although it looks like it could be a cellphone pic (no offense or anything). and welcome back

pilsenarch · #**3237** Posted **Sep 18, 2007, 2:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by aaron38

Yes, this featureless blank white wall is the parking podium for 550 St Clair. And it has turned out in reality to be worse than I had feared when I saw the render. Maybe people disagree with me, but I think it's hidious to the point where intervention is needed. Is it too late to demand a design change? I 'm serious, it's that bad.

I had the same reaction when I walked by the Brinninstool Lynch disaster yesterday. They should be put on notice that just because they produce renderings with what they wish the material effect will be, if they continue to spec cheap materials and design substandard details, they will continue to produce unfortunate results. This has happened on everyone of their multi-family projects in this city. The overall vocabulary of their projects is nice, but the material selection and details have fallen way too short.

GregBear24 · #**3238** Posted **Sep 18, 2007, 4:52 PM**

^ 550 St Clair should be leveled if they dont change that thing- in other words, it should be leveled b/c they wont. That thing is the biggest disgrace i've ever seen in this era. How this is being allowed is beyond me, especially in an area where quality has been high in recent designs. Hell, if a bunch of kids could spray graffiti art all over it, it'd be a huge step up in aesthetic quality.

Sir Isaac Newton · #**3239** Posted **Sep 18, 2007, 4:56 PM**

900 South Clark (the AMLI building) has been topped out for a couple weeks now....and I think that Marquee Michigan and Reebie Lofts (1400 South State) may also be topped out...

Mr Downtown · #**3240** Posted **Sep 18, 2007, 5:18 PM**

AMLI900 is not quite topped out yet. They're still working on the elevator penthouse and a couple other details.