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Alliance · #**461** Posted **Sep 3, 2007, 2:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by BVictor1

From the "blueprints" that i saw the other day, I must announce that this tower more than likely will not even break the 900' mark. While the skematics that I saw might be preliminary, this is the current status.

Why I didn't write down the exact height while I was there, I really can't think of an answer for other than that I was in a rush.

Hopefully this status will change when more "hard information" on this tower is released.

Ouch.

aaron38 · #**462** Posted **Sep 4, 2007, 2:09 PM**

BVic,

Was there any reason given for the height change? Was it due to a decrease in units, or something else?
With demand in LSE as high as has been reported, I'd think they'd be more likely to add units than cut them...

Steely Dan · #**463** Posted **Sep 4, 2007, 3:09 PM**

^ we don't know if the height info victor saw even constitutes a height change at all. the 921' figure in the title of this thread was just a preliminary height figure some one got from some source and it could have been a CCD height for all we know. there's no reason to assume that because this tower won't break the 900' mark that it has undergone a height decrease. at 76 floors, it would be consistent with other LSE towers if this one ended up closer to 800' tall.

SamInTheLoop · #**464** Posted **Sep 5, 2007, 4:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by BVictor1

From the "blueprints" that i saw the other day, I must announce that this tower more than likely will not even break the 900' mark. While the skematics that I saw might be preliminary, this is the current status.

Why I didn't write down the exact height while I was there, I really can't think of an answer for other than that I was in a rush.

Hopefully this status will change when more "hard information" on this tower is released.

That's what I had been fearing - I wouldn't expect Loewenberg to deviate that much from his standard enforcement of 8'8" ceiling heights, unfortunately. I would think about 9' would be as far as he'd be willing to stretch.......340 on the Park will of course remain the exception, as it was of course developed by Related (unless of course Magellan decides to sell off another of the yet-to-be-developed parcels, which I'm holding out some hope for....)

nomarandlee · #**465** Posted **Sep 5, 2007, 7:17 AM**

Not to much of a biggy to me. I still hold out hope that the northeast parcel across from the Spire will be the tallest and have significant height. Even if it is downsized from what we thought Arquitectonica LSE will still not be a slouch.

Alliance · #**466** Posted **Sep 5, 2007, 12:45 PM**

Well, its was nice to see some 900'ers welcome to the boom. We don't really have any boomers between 850' and 1050'.

SkokieSwift · #**467** Posted **Sep 6, 2007, 3:30 AM**

Perhaps it was "downsized" so that we could get a taller tower on the parcel across from the Spire.

gttx · #**468** Posted **Sep 12, 2007, 12:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by a chicago bearcat

that would be my guess, and I'd guess that the reason there aren't too many windows is because they are using that inner part of the hole as some sort of shear wall to make the hole possible.

That's one solution, though if I were the owner I would be demanding windows/balconies that looked out over the hole. Many floorplans are quoted with the balcony size included, and so they are a relatively inexpensive way to increase the size of the units without increasing the size of the tower. I feel like there is also a certain "wow" factor to have a balcony inside the hole.

I'm assuming they'll be using shear walls to handle lateral loads (they'd be silly not to), but there are plenty of places to put them inside the building rather than as the exterior wall. Each side of the hole will necessitate an elevator shaft (almost like they're two different buildings), so using those as shear walls is a possibility. Since this building is so tall they may also use some type of outrigger system from the core.

Now that I'm thinking about it, the structural system of this building will be very interesting. I could see a duel core approach like the Index in Dubai working nicely.

Alliance · #**469** Posted **Sep 12, 2007, 3:26 PM**

well, I can't see it working with one core very well at all

Nowhereman1280 · #**470** Posted **Sep 12, 2007, 6:03 PM**

Question: I know this is kind of a generic question to ask, but have we heard any news on when marketing for this building might begin? If Aqua is really 95% sold, then they should be getting moving on their next building pretty soon. Their next building is Arqui, so any guesses when they'll move on this one?

Dr. Taco · #**471** Posted **Sep 12, 2007, 6:47 PM**

^ just to be risky, I'm gonna guess we'll here something about it before this month is up. Its been a while since we've heard anything else (I believe the current render is the last thing we "heard")

EarlyBuyer · #**472** Posted **Sep 12, 2007, 10:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Nowhereman1280

Question: I know this is kind of a generic question to ask, but have we heard any news on when marketing for this building might begin? If Aqua is really 95% sold, then they should be getting moving on their next building pretty soon. Their next building is Arqui, so any guesses when they'll move on this one?

The Sales Center is under construction right now at The Regatta. Drywalling phase is pretty much done.

VA_Gentleman · #**473** Posted **Sep 13, 2007, 12:26 AM**

I'm sure there is a simple answer to this, but why don't they re-use one of the sales centers from a previous building?

Ryan81 · #**474** Posted **Sep 17, 2007, 10:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by Nowhereman1280

Question: I know this is kind of a generic question to ask, but have we heard any news on when marketing for this building might begin? If Aqua is really 95% sold, then they should be getting moving on their next building pretty soon. Their next building is Arqui, so any guesses when they'll move on this one?

I was at the Sales Center for Aqua on Oct 26th. I asked about arquitectonica, and they said (if my memory serves me) they would start MARKETING Sometime in September.

BorisMolotov · #**475** Posted **Sep 18, 2007, 12:19 AM**

Interesting... You travel to the future to tell us something that will be happening very soon...

Dr. Taco · #**476** Posted **Sep 18, 2007, 4:38 AM**

^ yes, quite remarkable...

what else did you learn?

so, my prediction i made a couple posts ago could turn out to be correct...that would totally make my day

Knightwing · #**477** Posted **Sep 18, 2007, 6:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ryan81

I was at the Sales Center for Aqua on Oct 26th. I asked about arquitectonica, and they said (if my memory serves me) they would start MARKETING Sometime in September.

Oct 26th?

SamInTheLoop · #**478** Posted **Sep 18, 2007, 12:20 PM**

I was at the LSE sales center not in the future but in the recent past (few weeks) and was told that it looks as though Arquitectonica sales will be pushed back until Spring...

Ryan81 · #**479** Posted **Sep 18, 2007, 1:09 PM**

haha - I meant Aug....Sorry

Alliance · #**480** Posted **Sep 18, 2007, 3:34 PM**

Did they mention if they had new figures on the height?