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Old Posted Aug 15, 2007, 12:51 AM
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^^^ there will be turnarounds at each end of the mall, and of course there's already the turnaround at 11th and morrison; also, i'm pretty sure there's a crossover under the morrison bridge so east-bound trains can stop at oak st and then head back the other direction.

re: the idea of LRT on water ave, i wouldn't be against perhaps adding a line there in the future, but it sounds pretty ridiculous to build the green line without that southern bridge.
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2007, 2:27 PM
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Sam Adams touts plan for eastside streetcar
Financing - The commissioner is seeking $27 million from Portland urban-renewal districts
Wednesday, August 15, 2007
JAMES MAYER
The Oregonian

Portland City Commissioner Sam Adams pitched his plan to the City Council on Monday to squeeze three urban-renewal districts for the $27 million needed to complete financing for the eastside streetcar.

Mayor Tom Potter and Commissioner Randy Leonard, the only other council members present for the work session, didn't say where they stood on the plan, but Potter, in particular, seemed skeptical.

He sought assurances that the city wasn't heading for another debacle such as the aerial tram, in which poor council oversight led to large cost overruns.

"I am responsible to the voters for this project," Adams said.

The city money represents the last piece of the financing puzzle for the $147 million project, which would take the streetcar from Northwest Portland, over the Broadway Bridge to the Lloyd District, and then on Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard and Grand Avenue to the Oregon Museum of Science and Industry.

If approved, construction would begin in September 2008, with service beginning February 2011. The line could be extended across the Willamette River to the South Waterfront area in the future.

Adams said the project could spark the kind of development boom on the east side that has accompanied the westside line through the Pearl, the west end of downtown, the River District and South Waterfront.

The route is expected to attract 2.4 million square feet of development and 15,000 new jobs, while reducing congestion and global warming, Adams said.

But it may come at the cost of delaying other important city priorities, such as redevelopment of the Centennial Mills site or building affordable housing in the central east side. And a proposed operating subsidy also features controversial elements such as reducing bus service and installing parking meters in the central east side.

"It's a good but tough project," Adams said.

The council will have little time to absorb the complex financing plan before it must vote on the proposal Sept. 6, one day before a deadline to apply for $75 million in federal money for the project.

The city doesn't have to work out all the details now, but it has to make a firm commitment to the Federal Transit Administration, said Michael Powell, chairman of Portland Streetcar Inc., the nonprofit board that operates the service.

"They have to come up with a believable story," Powell said.

The federal money comes from the Small Starts program, created by Congress with heavy lifting from Oregon's delegation.

Federal Transit Administrator Jim Simpson, in Portland earlier this summer, said the agency is following the streetcar project closely and is awaiting the application.

Other sources include $20 million in state lottery bonds to buy vehicles, $15 million from property owners along the route in the form of a local improvement district, $3.7 million from a separate pot of federal money controlled by regional officials, and $6 million from system development charges.

The City Council will hold a hearing today on the local improvement district, but officials don't expect significant objections from property owners.

The city contribution would come from three urban-renewal districts: $17 million from the River District, $4 million from Convention Center and $6.2 million from the Central Eastside.

Keith Witcosky of the Portland Development Commission explained that each of the these districts has money budgeted for the streetcar extension but at much smaller amounts than Adams is asking for.

That may require the city to raise debt limits, put off other projects, and take out short-term loans backed by the city's general fund.

These problems are most acute in the Central Eastside district, which has not seen the kind of growth in property values that has generated tax revenues in westside urban renewal districts.

Ken Rust, the city's top finance official, said that almost all the project costs would occur in the next five years, while most of the potential growth in the Central Eastside sparked by the streetcar and other investments won't emerge until well beyond five years. The plan for operating money also poses problems.

The streetcar will require a public subsidy of $2.2 million a year, to be split equally between the city and TriMet under Adams' plan.

But this assumes creation of a central city fare district with streetcar fares set at $1 and also assumes savings from service cuts on TriMet Line No. 6.

TriMet General Manager Fred Hansen said the subsidy plan will require public involvement and negotiations with the city.

Hansen was also surprised to see the transit agency down for a $1.1 million subsidy, noting that he had only discussed $1 million.

"I don't like surprises," he told the council.

Hansen also mentioned that TriMet board President George Passadore would like to see zoning changes to allow more residential development in the central east side, a suggestion opposed by Adams and businesses in the district.

James Mayer: 503-294-4109
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Old Posted Aug 16, 2007, 2:17 PM
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City wants $15M from property owners for streetcar
Daily Journal of Commerce
by Libby Tucker
08/16/2007


Portland City Council on Wednesday proposed taxing eastside property owners to help pay for a planned streetcar extension.

The city would create a local improvement district within a three-block radius of the 3.4-mile streetcar loop, allowing it to raise $15 million for the project, which the city says will cost $147 million.

“It’s an investment by the private sector that would yield higher property values” for property owners within the district, Sam Adams, Portland transportation commissioner, said.

The project is eligible for $75,000 from the Federal Transit Administration if the city submits a report laying out the local funding by Sept. 7. The deadline pressures City Council to push the project through the public approval process within the next month.

State and regional transportation dollars would provide the remaining money for the streetcar.

The streetcar would run primarily near commercial property along the Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard and Grand Avenue couplet, stretching from the Broadway Bridge to the Oregon Museum of Science & Industry.

Property owners within 200 feet of the streetcar line would pay $7.70 per $1,000 of assessed property value or no less than 60 cents per square foot. The rate is reduced by half for property two to three blocks away from the streetcar.

Owners of industrial property within a designated industrial sanctuary would pay one-third of the full rate. And owner-occupied residential properties would be exempt from the tax.

The streetcar’s proposed budget is a “low-confidence estimate,” meaning the city isn’t confident the $147 million price tag will stick. A city ordinance would cap the proposed tax at $15 million, however, drawing some criticism from Commissioner Dan Saltzman.

“I think it’s only fair that if the costs do increase, the LID contribution increase as well,” Saltzman said.

Some industrial property owners testifying Wednesday said they were unsure of the real benefit a streetcar would offer their businesses, many of which run primarily wholesale operations.

But many eastside property owners, who said they stand to benefit from a predicted rise in property values due to the streetcar development, said they support the city property tax as long as the city honors the $15 million limit.

“The intent is to have a firm commitment of a $15 million level,” Michael Bollinger, an eastside property owner and member of the Central Eastside Industrial Council, said. “That’s what we agreed to.”
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Old Posted Aug 17, 2007, 10:09 PM
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Salt Lake area to have 5 new rail lines in place by 2015! Amazing what having a sales tax can do with regards to funding projects. We'll be lucky to have the clackamas line in by 2014...they already have amazing highways. Is my envy justifiable?

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Salt Lake area to have 5 new rail lines in place by 2015! Amazing what having a sales tax can do with regards to funding projects. We'll be lucky to have the clackamas line in by 2014...they already have amazing highways. Is my envy justifiable?

http://www.rideuta.com/mediaRoom/projects/airportLR/newsArticles.aspx?pressReleaseID=591
I don't think you should be too envious. They may be planning five lines, but totally mileage is not overly long, and the airport line goes to the airport, but not to the terminal. That sucks.
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2007, 5:37 PM
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Salt Lake area to have 5 new rail lines in place by 2015! Amazing what having a sales tax can do with regards to funding projects. We'll be lucky to have the clackamas line in by 2014...they already have amazing highways. Is my envy justifiable?
I'm assuming by the Clackamas line you mean the new Milwaukie line? The current Clack line under construction will already be open by 2014...open for five years by then.

I wouldn't get disappointed yet. Kulongoski has indicated he is looking for a major tranportation bill in the 2009 session. With the D majority looking like it is going to increase, I think something positive will come forward.
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Oh yeah, my bad^^^
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I was on Craigslist today & found a Llyod District apt. located at 1727 NE Multnomah St. (17th & Multnomah, across from Residence Inn) Can anyone tell me which complex this may be? I believe it's a midrise tower judging by the google earth locale.
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Lloyd might sound better
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I think this might be the one: The Merrick: (from the For Rent mag)



Second thought: this probably isn't the one.

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Old Posted Aug 21, 2007, 4:13 AM
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^hmmm, I don't think the Merrick is as far out as 17th, more like MLK. Ha! I'd love to see these 'luxury' complexes advertise on Craigslist though...
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I was on Craigslist today & found a Llyod District apt. located at 1727 NE Multnomah St. (17th & Multnomah, across from Residence Inn) Can anyone tell me which complex this may be? I believe it's a midrise tower judging by the google earth locale.
It's a 1950's-era condo, about 16 stories, typical for the time, if you know what I mean.
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Thanks bvpcvn. I know the Lloyd isn't the most dynamic neighborhood, however, you do NOT have to pay monthly parking fees ($100) that you would in NW, Goose Hollow, Kings Hill, Downtown, Pearl. Also, it's an easy walk to the Max, which is still fareless. Just too many pros (pricewise) to pass by. If any of you guys happen to catch the name of this place, i'd like to know. The unit is on the top floor too, probably a dang good view if towards downtown.
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The only places that has meters are downtown and the Pearl. In other area, you can get a sticker and park on the street. It used to be 30 bucks a year, but I don't know how much now. Depending on where you are, it could be difficult to find street parking though.
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The Lloyd district definitely has parking meters.
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I don’t think you need to be jealous either. Although Denver and Salt Lake City's rail plans are impressive, Portland already has a decent system and think about all the lines we have in planning or UC right now:

Clackamas UC
Wash Co Commuter UC
Milwaukee Mostly Funded
East Side SC On its way to being funded
LO SC Most likely a go

I think when you add those lines to the lines we already have our system will be as good or better then the full build out in Denver or Salt Lake.
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Definitely don't be envious of "amazing hwys" Those highways will be filled with spewing dirty cars, spreading the masses around the countryside soon enough. It doesn't take long to turn a hwy into the NJ turnpike.

There is an added bonus to lack of transportation funds in that transportation planners and home builders don't get to run rough shot over the Willamette valley. One could argue that the lack of hwy's is one of the reasons why Oregon hasn't been hit so hard by the foreclosure epidemic other more sprawlly area's are seeing. We simply didn't over build on green space due to lack of infrastructure (and growth boundries) to those easy to build on green spaces.
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By $100 parking, i of course mean with a parking garage attached to the apt. complex. I've heard bad reviews about the $30-35 annual city pass, such as hard finding a spot (near your unit), car break ins, etc... Don't know how valid those claims really are though. People who have had bad experiences tend to be more inclined to write reviews than those who are satisfied, such is life.
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Okstate, the building you're describing sounds like the Fontaine. Older, but it seems pretty well maintained. Also, there are no meters past 15th or so, but the free street parking attracts suburban commuters who hop on Max at Lloyd Center.
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the fontaine! i was wracking my brain... not sure if the whole building is maintained this well, but if it's any indication there was an article in portland monthly a couple years ago about a couple who did a *fantastic* job remodeling their 16-th floor unit. one would assume (hope, anyway) the other units are similarly maintained.
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