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Old Posted Aug 7, 2007, 12:19 PM
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Crown Royal....street (Riverview )
Did any of these predictions happen? Any work on the Hampton or Riverview crown?
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Old Posted Aug 8, 2007, 11:03 PM
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Finally...
Mobile school system finally sells old Gayfers building
Posted by Rena Havner August 08, 2007 2:39 PM
Four-and-a-half years after the Mobile County school board bought the former Gayfers building in downtown Mobile for an arts school it never established, the school system has sold the building.

Mobile County school officials said Wednesday they have a $1.2 million check in hand for the building they bought for $1 million. After real estate and legal fees, the system will either break even or have a profit of less than $100,000.

The four-story building that fronts Dauphin Street at Bienville Square was purchased by Island Investments LLC of Orange Beach. Officials have said developers plan to put in offices, condominiums and a ground-level parking garage.

The school system has experienced years of public backlash over the purchase of the building, which has been vacant and deteriorating for two decades.

Then-school board member David Thomas Jr. initiated purchase of the building with little public discussion at a board meeting in February 2003.

Board members later said the purchase was a mistake and the facility would not be suitable for a performing arts high school.
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2007, 1:38 PM
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Did any of these predictions happen? Any work on the Hampton or Riverview crown?
I think site clearing work is being done for the Hampton. Bulldozers and other construction equipment have at least torn up some of the existing parking lot.
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2007, 6:32 PM
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I think site clearing work is being done for the Hampton. Bulldozers and other construction equipment have at least torn up some of the existing parking lot.

Hell, they already have cement trucks there. I tlook like they are already pouring footers for the bulidng since they are drilling and pouring cement. This baby might be done in no time.
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2007, 7:56 PM
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I didnt think of it earlier when I posted the Gayfers building news, but the article mentions ground floor parking. I think that is a pretty bad idea, especially in a building with frontage on Bienville Square. Hopefully the will put some retail at that front entrance on Bienville. If they want to make the back of the first floor parking with exits onto the side streets, then by all means, but please don't waste that Bienville frontage as a parking garage for the residential/offices above. Surely these investors see the value in that entrance off of Dauphin/Bienville Square. How great would it be to live in this project when completed? I have never thought that building was particularly attractive(not my style), but we Mobilians view it with a great deal of nostalgia and it is probably the most centrally located of all the new resdential/office projects(along with St. Emanuel Lofts). I do hope the school board uses the moeny for Barton rennovation or to rennovate Dunbar(They bought the Gayfers building to be an arts school so why not use the cash to do work on the existing fine arts school).
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Go zone news from the PR. I just cut out the develpment related stuff.
http://www.al.com/business/press-registe...s/1186911352276330.xml&coll=3&thispage=3
She said feedback she's gotten in the last two weeks have been positive, with several of the smaller and larger borrowers expressing interest.

Smaller potential borrowers include the owner of Veets bar on South Royal Street, who wants to upgrade the property, and larger ones include the developers of

$80 million mixed-use Water Street Landing at the foot of Government Street, restaurateur Bob Baumhower and New York developer Larry Posner, Browning said.

Baumhower and Posner are both eyeing projects that would help continue to transform historic Ft. Conde Village, whose buildings are some of the oldest in the city.

Baumhower, the former Alabama and Miami Dolphins lineman who owns the Wings Sports Grille restaurants, said he still wants to open a new concept restaurant in the former Roussos restaurant at 166 S. Royal St.

"We're going to look at the comparison between conventional borrowing and the bonds, but (using the bonds) is a possibility," Baumhower said.
Posner said he is working with the city of Mobile -- which owns Fort Conde Village and grants long-term leases -- and is optimistic about his plan to transform four 1800s building on St. Emanuel Street into bed and breakfast units and offices, a project originally pegged at $5 million. He has already renovated nine of the 13 buildings in the area.

Other property owners, meanwhile, have opted to proceed without GO Zone bonds.

Law firm Lyons, Pipes & Cook, for example, has either completed or nearly completed four downtown renovation projects totaling more than $1.5 million using accelerated depreciation, another benefit of the Gulf Opportunity Act, said Cooper Thurber, president. Accelerated depreciation translates into big tax deductions for property owners like the law firm.

"It was of greater benefit to us," Thurber said.

Lyons, Pipes & Cook's holdings include about a fourth of the downtown block at the southeast corner of Royal and Dauphin streets, and had originally proposed a parking garage and retail complex there, Thurber said. Those plans are indefinitely on hold due to skyrocketing construction costs, but the property could be developed if a feasible plan is presented, he said.

Change in plans

Terry Hillery, a Boston developer with roots in Mobile, had originally planned to use the bonds to finance a seafood shipping business and office renovation in a pair of historic properties he owns, but those plans have changed, he said.

Hillery is now considering turning his building at 355 St. Michael St. into a residence for himself, and a building on St. Francis Street on the market for potential condos. They were originally slated to be offices.

Browning said on the advice of the city's bond counsel, she is compiling a list of parties who would be interested in any excess GO Zone bonds. She met with several of them last week. Anyone interested in being added to that list may call Browning at 625-6291 .

She said the bonds don't work well with residential projects such as rentals, which must have a certain portion priced for lower-

income residents and that, combined with rising construction costs, can make a project financially unfeasible.
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and from the Kathy Jumper real eastate column...
The law firm Starnes & At chison has leased 6,720 square feet on the 20th floor of the RSA Battle House Tower and should move in next March, according to Scotty Wells of Grubb & Ellis/Peebles & Cameron . The firm will relocate from Riverview Office Plaza . About 70 percent of the 35-story RSA Battle House Tower on Water and Dauphin streets has been leased, according to Joe Toole, leasing agent for the Retirement Systems of Alabama , which built and owns the office building.
http://www.al.com/business/press-register/kjumper.ssf?/base/business/1186911377276330.xml&coll=3
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and from the Kathy Jumper real eastate column...
The law firm Starnes & At chison has leased 6,720 square feet on the 20th floor of the RSA Battle House Tower and should move in next March, according to Scotty Wells of Grubb & Ellis/Peebles & Cameron . The firm will relocate from Riverview Office Plaza . About 70 percent of the 35-story RSA Battle House Tower on Water and Dauphin streets has been leased, according to Joe Toole, leasing agent for the Retirement Systems of Alabama , which built and owns the office building.
http://www.al.com/business/press-register/kjumper.ssf?/base/business/1186911377276330.xml&coll=3
70% is a good number considering the fact that the building just opened in May.

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Also here is an article from the PR about plans for the undeveloped corner of Dauphin and Sage in Midtown. I pass by the site everyday and have wondered why the large property hasn't developed yet.

Graf property developments proposed
If rezoning OK'd, site of former dairy farm at Dauphin and Sage in Midtown could become home to condos, a bank and a drugstore

Sunday, August 12, 2007
By KATHY JUMPER
Real Estate Editor

Condominiums, a bank and a drugstore may soon replace a former dairy farm on 36 acres at the southeast corner of Dauphin Street and Sage Avenue, according to local developers.

The property has been owned by the Graf family, who operated a dairy there in the early 1900s, and has for years been seen by Realtors as a prime development site. But the Grafs had not wanted to sell or develop the land until recently, agents said.

At least three separate investor/developers have some of the property under contract to purchase, contingent on rezoning. Developers will go before the Mobile Planning Commission on Sept. 6 seeking a subdivision planned unit development with parts of the property rezoned from R-1 to either R-3 for multifamily use, or B-2 for business, according to Doug Anderson, an attorney working on behalf of the Graf family.

The Preserve at Midtown, a 96-unit condo project, is planned for 12 acres, said Gavin Bender Sr. of Bender Real Estate. He plans to develop the gated condo community with Robert Randall of Randall Investments.

A drugstore and a bank are planned for two parcels fronting Dauphin Street, according to Anderson. The drugstore would be developed by Elcan & Associates.

The developers plan to hold a neighborhood meeting Aug. 23, Anderson said.

"There has been so much talk over the last 10 years to develop the property," Anderson said. It's unique that "more than 30 undeveloped acres still exists in the heart of Mobile. The Graf family was very involved in doing the overall master plan. This will be a first-class development."

The Grafs also own part of the shopping center across Sage Avenue. A 20-acre ball park is adjacent across Dauphin Street.

"The timing is right for condo units," Bender said. "Especially with the number of people we expect to move into the area. What we hope will happen is that a grocery store, like a Whole Foods, will locate there. The residents would be able to walk to the store, to the bank and to the park."

Developers John Vallas and Greg Saad wanted to build a Publix grocery store on part of what is now Herndon Park about 10 years ago. But the nearby residents and ballpark users balked at the plan, which was called off.

"Now Publix is focusing on Baldwin County," Vallas said. "But I think that area is ready for a bank, townhomes and professional offices. All the good, quality office space in that area is leased up."

The main entrance to the condos would be off Dauphin Street and a wrought-iron fence would encompass the site along Sage Avenue, according to Bender. A 100-plus-year-old house owned by the Grafs is located at the center of the property and will be moved to the rear of the property, he said.

The two-story, brick condo buildings were designed by architect Pat Williams, a Montgomery-based architect. The two- and three-bedroom units range from 1,400 to 1,600 square feet and will be priced in the $275,000 to $350,000 range. The units will feature upscale amenities such as granite countertops and hardwood floors, and each unit will have a covered garage and private courtyard. The residential project will also have a clubhouse, pool and exercise center.

"The neighbors will applaud" the condo plan, Bender predicted. "These are really like upscale, single-family homes." Construction on the units should start by the end of the first quarter of 2008, he said.

Retired merchant mariner Lambert Waltman, 87, has watched the engineers and site planners survey the property from the front porch of his home on Sage Avenue, he said.

"I kind of favor residences rather than business, but I don't mind that either," he said last week. Waltman said he moved to Sage Avenue in 1964 when the Grafs were still bottling milk.

"But the cows were already gone," he recalled.
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Old Posted Aug 13, 2007, 6:37 AM
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Wow, that's exciting. That will definitely give that intersection a shot in the arm!
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That would be good if they put a Whole Foods their. We have one in Baton Rouge, and it is a great place to eat, and buy all of your organic foods. I like it better than Fresh Market. Looks like Mobile is changing face for good. Awesome news guys.
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Old Posted Aug 13, 2007, 9:16 PM
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PLEASE! No Barry Bonds jokes today!
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"Mobile's Makeover" comes on WKRG tonight at 9:00.

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Old Posted Aug 14, 2007, 3:00 AM
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Vision of Mobile didn t take place today?
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2007, 3:04 AM
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Hot News!

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For those who missed it on KRG: http://wkrg.com/mobilesmakeover/
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2007, 3:55 AM
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some very good info! new roadways to 2030!

http://www.mobilempo.org/2030LRP/Summary/SECTION2.pdf




I-10 to the Bayou(mc donald rd.) is a must!
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2007, 4:50 AM
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^I'd be interested in seeing how they will design the Cottage Hill Road/ I-65 interchange.
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2007, 5:26 AM
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The bypass is also a must. They need to start it now and not 2020 like stated.
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I hope they don't start on all these projects at the same time. It would be like driving through pensacola with all their construction!! They are some great ideas.
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