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Old Posted Jul 30, 2007, 3:29 PM
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better than this parking lot:
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Old Posted Jul 30, 2007, 4:27 PM
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Thanks for the image.
Who are the tenets? Is it going to be all retail. Any commercial?
What happend to the neighborhood opposition?
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Old Posted Jul 31, 2007, 1:26 AM
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are there any updates on 500 CM?
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Old Posted Jul 31, 2007, 5:20 AM
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Aura

Looks like Aura has become another parking lot.
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Old Posted Jul 31, 2007, 10:12 AM
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I've stepped up to the plate and modelled Sac's first building on the Google Sketchup 3D Warehouse, the Wells Fargo Center:
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=491eb1767f080535d12eaca0749d01ab&prevstart=0
It's cheesy, but it's better than nothing.
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I've stepped up to the plate and modelled Sac's first building on the Google Sketchup 3D Warehouse, the Wells Fargo Center:
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=491eb1767f080535d12eaca0749d01ab&prevstart=0
It's cheesy, but it's better than nothing.
That's not cheesy at all...it's good!
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Old Posted Jul 31, 2007, 3:48 PM
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Looks like Aura has become another parking lot.
that was predictable
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Old Posted Jul 31, 2007, 5:09 PM
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^I think it looks pretty good

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Looks like Aura has become another parking lot.
When in August was Nassi going to announce the fate of Aura?
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Old Posted Jul 31, 2007, 6:24 PM
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I've stepped up to the plate and modelled Sac's first building on the Google Sketchup 3D Warehouse, the Wells Fargo Center:
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=491eb1767f080535d12eaca0749d01ab&prevstart=0
It's cheesy, but it's better than nothing.
Hey... it looks great! Keep 'em coming.

Who uses that pool?
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Old Posted Jul 31, 2007, 9:05 PM
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Thanks guys! I was wrong, it appears as if Renaissance Tower is also on there, it was hiding: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=ffc6c8366796576b76755393ab1dcc0d&prevstart=12

Edit: I got another one done, Emerald tower:
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=6096e87b6770fc43d12eaca0749d01ab

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Old Posted Aug 1, 2007, 4:11 AM
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Aura in August

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When in August was Nassi going to announce the fate of Aura?
I didn't know about that... maybe there's a little more time. But with the real estate market, etc., imploding, I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Info on East End Gateway I at 16th and N. I'm going to go to the meeting on the 21st and grab what ever info I can can.

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(as of August 1, 2007)
* CADA and the Developer are operating under an Exclusive Negotiating Agreement which expires in March 2008. The Developer was selected following a developer competition.

* CADA and the Developer have reached agreement on the financial and business terms of a Development and Disposition Agreement (DDA) for development of the site, and CADA has begun drafting the DDA.

The Developer currently is working on the project's conceptual design and arranging financing of the project

* CADA's environmental consultant, Adrienne Graham, is preparing the project EIR Notice of Preparation.

Location: 1517 - 1531 N Street (NW corner of 16th and N Streets)
Developer: Lambert Development Company
Architect: Carrier Johnson
General Contractor: Hensel Phelps (proposed)
Unit Count:
Studios - 12
Townhouses - 4
1 BR, 1 Bath - 27
1 BR, 1.5 Bath - 21
2 BR, 2 Bath - 48
Total: 122 (Note: At this time, this mix and total number of units are subject to change)

Estimated Height: 6 to 15 floors, or 80 to 150 feet, reflecting the height limits established under the Capitol View Protection Act for this site
Acres: .33 acres (370 DUA)
Retail Space: Approximately 4,500 square feet
Parking: Approximately 175 - 204 spaces
Estimated Development Costs: Approximately $69 million
Projected Sales: TBD. All units will be for-sale market-rate condominiums.
Projected Construction Period: November 2008 - July 2010 (20 months)
Upcoming Milestones and Opportunities for Public Comment:
* August 20 - NAG Area 1 presentation
* August 21- EEG Site 1 CADA Open House
* August 28 - CADA begins circulating EIR Notice of Preparation
* September 28 - CADA Board reviews and comments on conceptual design and accepts public comment at CADA Board meeting
* December 7, CADA board approves Design Concept and financing strategies
* December, January, February - City Commissions review design at public meetings
* March 2008 - CADA board approves Final EIR and Development and Disposition Agreement
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Old Posted Aug 2, 2007, 5:24 PM
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"6 to 15 floors"? Kind of a range, isn't it?

6-8 floors I can see, although a bit much. 15 is just a tad too tall for that neighborhood, I'd think...
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Old Posted Aug 2, 2007, 5:39 PM
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Along 16th, I'd like to see them push the density as much as they can. 15 seems okay to me in that site along side the East End Offices and closer to the CBD and other buildings in that range. Sites 2-4 are more fitting of the 4-5 stories buildings that are planned to me. I bet it comes in at 10-12

Plus, anything that takes away from the East End Complex is a good thing in my mind.
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Old Posted Aug 2, 2007, 5:41 PM
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I think 10 floors would be fine. 18th & L is pretty where it is, but still fits in fine. And this is closer to downtown, so I think 10 would work.

Then again, if the height limit for the site is 150ft, I say why not use the property to its full potential.
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Old Posted Aug 2, 2007, 5:56 PM
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That's the height limit according to Capitol View Protection Act, but not according to the upcoming General Plan Update's land use map: that spot is slated for a designation of Urban Corridor/High, 3-8 stories. And remember that while it is two blocks west of 17th and L, it is also two blocks south, so it is no closer to downtown than 1701 L.
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Old Posted Aug 2, 2007, 8:39 PM
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Since it's a state agency, CADA does not have to abide by any city zoning or need any approvals from Design Review or Planning Commission.

Capitol View Protection Act I'm pretty sure they do though.
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Since it's a state agency, CADA does not have to abide by any city zoning or need any approvals from Design Review or Planning Commission.

Capitol View Protection Act I'm pretty sure they do though.

You are correct with the exception of CADA being a state agency. They are a joint powers agency combining state and the city.

They technically need to adhear to the zoning regs but there is a standing MOU that get's them out of if.
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Old Posted Aug 2, 2007, 9:36 PM
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Ah, that's right. Thanks for the clarification.
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College eyes Placer land
Drexel University president tours Tsakopoulos site
By Bill Lindelof - Bee Staff Writer
Published 12:00 am PDT Sunday, August 5, 2007
Story appeared in METRO section, Page B5

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Drexel University's president is interested in opening a four-year private university in Placer County where a prominent Sacramento developer has proposed to donate land.

Drexel President Constantine Papadakis toured the site west of Roseville and met with Placer County community leaders last week.

The university campus is proposed for 600 acres, and an adjacent 500-acre community would be developed to finance the campus.


The land for the university would be donated by the Tsakopoulos family, William and Claudia Cummings, Wayne and Mary Prim and their partners.

Papadakis, president of the Philadelphia university, said the Placer County land is a remarkable opportunity.

"This is such a good project," he said. "It is so unique. We would be a great benefit to the Sacramento area."

The proposal must still be approved by the Placer County Board of Supervisors and Drexel's board of trustees.

Supervisor "Rocky" Rockholm was one of the community leaders who met with Papadakis. He was impressed with the college president.

"He gives me hope that we will have our private university here," Rockholm said. "If Drexel is involved, it will be top quality."

A prior sponsor for a university on the land backed out. That makes Supervisor Robert M. Weygandt cautiously optimistic.

"I have not heard from Drexel and I have not met the president," he said. "In the end, for me, there will either be a committed project from a quality university or there won't be. It sounds good, but the substance of the commitment is what is essential."

Although not a done deal, Papadakis said he is excited about building and running a 6,000-student university in Placer County.

The Regional University project was first proposed to the county by KT Communities Corp. about four years ago. It would consist of a 600-acre campus and an adjacent 536 acres that would feature a community of about 2,300 houses, apartments and development focused on other uses.

The land for the campus would be donated to a university and the remaining acreage would be sold to a builder, with the net proceeds to go to the university for construction costs, Kyriakos Tsakopoulos, president of KT Communities, has said during an earlier interview.

Tsakopoulos is the son of developer Angelo K. Tsakopoulos, who, along with partners, owns the proposed project site.

"Nowadays, it is very difficult to open a campus of any significant size anywhere because of the cost of infrastructure," Papadakis said. "The donation of that land by the Tsakopoulos family and their partners makes it possible for this to happen."

Christian Brothers, a Catholic order that was set to establish a school on the site to be called De La Salle University, withdrew its sponsorship.

Papadakis said he has known about the project for about five years, having been approached by Angelo Tsakopoulos about the project.

However, the Greek-born Papadakis was not able to expand to California because Drexel was opening a law school, a major task that would take four years.

He later learned from Angelo K. Tsakopoulos that Christian Brothers had backed out. Papadakis was immediately interested.

In California, Papadakis said, there are more potential students than in the Northeast.

Papadakis said Sacramento is underserved by private universities.

"I can assure you a lot of students from the Sacramento area want to go to a private university," he said.

"Many do leave Sacramento for a private university and they don't return. So you have a brain drain."

Papadakis, a civil engineer, once worked for Bechtel. He has been president of Drexel for 12 years.

Julie Hanson, the KT Communities project manager for the proposed university, lauded Papadakis' leadership and vision.

In a press release, she noted he had doubled full-time undergraduate enrollment, increased freshmen applications from 3,500 to 21,500 and increased the university's endowment from $90 million to $640 million.

Papadakis said it would take six years for the Drexel university to grow to 6,000 students. That would happen only after all the approvals are given for the project.

Papadakis said the university's board of trustees and management have been trying to figure out how to respond to the flatness of population growth in the Northeast.

"We identified that that strongest growth of population in 18-year-olds will be in California, Texas and Florida," Papadakis said.

"So we started thinking about how to export our brand to another state."

Now, he said, the university is not looking at any site other than Placer County. He plans to go to his board in October with a project design.

He said that an emphasis on business administration and nursing might be a good fit for the new campus.
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