LOS ANGELES | Downtown Project Rundown 3.0 - Page 55

colemonkee · #**1081** Posted **Jul 29, 2007, 7:13 PM**

Great photo updates WonderlandPark and friday! I updated the first page with the following:

- moved Market Lofts to completed (using WonderlandPark's great shot)
- updated the render and height of iHope (8th and Hope)
- updated the heights of 717 Flower & Park Tower

colemonkee · #**1082** Posted **Jul 29, 2007, 11:04 PM**

A quick Little Tokyo update...

San Pedro Apartments (Block 8)

Mura

The southern half looks like it's getting close to completion, at least from the outside. I hope they start moving people in sometime this year.

Artisan on 2nd
Meh.

fridayinla · #**1083** Posted **Jul 29, 2007, 11:15 PM**

^Thanks for the LT update, Colemonkee! I've been too lazy to make it over there myself.

Mura and Artisan are decent projects. I'm more excited about the residents and foot traffic they'll bring to the neighborhood than the completed projects themselves. Block 8 on the other hand, bring it on!!!

JDRCRASH · #**1084** Posted **Jul 30, 2007, 5:02 AM**

Wouldn't adding more 250 sq ft units to high-rises make it easier for developers to build more high-rises that can pay for themselves more?

colemonkee · #**1085** Posted **Jul 30, 2007, 6:03 AM**

^ Only if there's demand for said 250 sq. ft. units.

citywatch · #**1086** Posted **Jul 30, 2007, 5:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by fridayinla

Are you talking about the huge lot directly across from the Orsini II development going east down Cesar Chavez?

That's the site for Orsini phase 3. BBQ King, a junky auto shop and lots of graffiti will soon be history.

Speaking of which, I found this photo at angelenic.com (I'm not sure if that's SSPer Ralossi's blog?):

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Green construction fencing has begun to surround the site of the future Orsini III apartments. The apartments, by G. H. Palmer Associates, are to rise on the northeastern corner of Figueroa Street and Cesar Chavez Avenue, directly across Cesar Chavez from the Orsini II and catty-corner to the first Orsini apartment complex — and, yes, they will look exactly the same as every other Palmer apartment in Downtown

And the lack of any photo updates of the Medallion site at 4th & Main makes me suspect we're looking at another devlpr who's going to make everyone jump through hoops before he let's on when his proj will be under active construction. Sort of another version of "Concerto: The Guessing Game!"

WonderlandPark · #**1087** Posted **Jul 30, 2007, 6:05 PM**

Oh, gawd, more Orsini? Someone please stop this developer, or at least introduce him to a decent architect.

hughfb3 · #**1088** Posted **Jul 30, 2007, 6:12 PM**

Has anyone else been by the fig central site? I went by there yesterday and saw concrete torn up in a few spaces, much like where Medallion is with cars still parked on certain areas. So I ask the parking attendant why the site is torn up, he simply said "they are supposed to start construction next week." I don't know who "they" are and what "construction" he is talking about... could this mean Fig central...? Nah...

fridayinla · #**1089** Posted **Jul 30, 2007, 6:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by citywatch

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Speaking of which, I found this photo at angelenic.com (I'm not sure if that's SSPer Ralossi's blog?):

Angelenic is RAlossi's blog.

I'm surprised and glad to see how quickly Palmer is moving on Orsini phase 3. I'm not a fan of his projects (and I may catch some flak for this), but I think the scale of the Orsini developments along both sides Cesar Chavez will create a real identity for a neighberhood that needs one (considering the junky mess it is now). And maybe he'll actually be able to land some retail tenants.

Speaking of Palmer's retail, I noticed the Medici's retail space along 7th Street in City West is now repped by that super-star broker Derrick Moore from CB. Looks like they're finally getting serious now things are starting to come together in the neighborhood.

fridayinla · #**1090** Posted **Jul 30, 2007, 6:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by hughfb3

Has anyone else been by the fig central site? I went by there yesterday and saw concrete torn up in a few spaces, much like where Medallion is with cars still parked on certain areas. So I ask the parking attendant why the site is torn up, he simply said "they are supposed to start construction next week." I don't know who "they" are and what "construction" he is talking about... but could this mean Fig central...?

Has Figueroa Central been approved? Wait, didn't they just request a height increase for the project? I'll believe it when I see it.

citywatch · #**1091** Posted **Jul 30, 2007, 6:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by fridayinla

Angelenic is RAlossi's blog.

Good to know that. I'm still waiting for the photo update he mentioned a few days ago.

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I'm surprised and glad to see how quickly Palmer is moving on Orsini phase 3. I'm not a fan of his projects (and I may catch some flak for this), but I think the scale of the Orsini developments along both sides Cesar Chavez will create a real identity for this neighberhood (considering the junky mess it is now).

What gets to me is when ppl, at the same time, never complain or nitpick about the things that really stink up the hood. If Orsini III isn't great, look at what it's replacing. And if that proj represents bad taste, or weird, vegasy faux euro styling, then the devlpr----like it or not----is merely catering to the preferences of a lot of ppl moving to the hood, because Palmer's bldgs have leased up faster than a lot of the other ones.

By contrast, I really like the design of the Packard lofts bldg in South Pk, or the idea of the converted old Federal Reserve bldg on Olympic, but those apt bldgs still have pretty large vacancies months after they were completed.

BTW, I recall someone at SSP saying I always complained about things?!!

But, ok, here's a complaint I do have, at least when it comes to talk about a bldg that's painted a really bad color of green: The Promenade West condo bldg on the NE corner of Fig & 2nd Sts, which dates back to the 1980s. The ppl on that bldg's HOA chose to redo their bldg with an ugly green paint job a few yrs ago. They've gotta be vision impaired.

Sodha · #**1092** Posted **Jul 30, 2007, 6:51 PM**

Whats the address of Fig Central?

Echo Park · #**1093** Posted **Jul 30, 2007, 7:22 PM**

I agree with the Orsini apologists. Palmer's buildings while fake and sterile, are at least on the periphery of the CBD and downtown core and not within it. I've noticed the buildings have a certain "weight" to them and have quite the presence in their neighborhoods. Is there any retail at Orsini? I thought there wasn't any at Medici but apparently there is. Anyway, I find a building like the Artisan (which belongs on a suburban tract in Cerritos not on DTLA's 2nd st) far more offensive than the Orsini.

LongBeachUrbanist · #**1094** Posted **Jul 30, 2007, 7:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by citywatch

And the lack of any photo updates of the Medallion site at 4th & Main makes me suspect we're looking at another devlpr who's going to make everyone jump through hoops before he let's on when his proj will be under active construction. Sort of another version of "Concerto: The Guessing Game!"

Do you really think that's the reason the developer is not discussing his project's delays? Just to make us bloggers/forumers "jump through hoops"?

I'm sure the developer is at least as anxious to move forward as we are. He actually has money at stake. Most of us, I think, have literally nothing at stake other than our curiosity and our civic pride.

As for the "lack of any photo updates": people on the forums post photos when they get a chance (which BTW I greatly appreciate). But people do also have lives and interests other than keeping the forum updated.

k3d · #**1095** Posted **Jul 30, 2007, 9:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by LongBeachUrbanist

Do you really think that's the reason the developer is not discussing his project's delays? Just to make us bloggers/forumers "jump through hoops"?

I'm sure the developer is at least as anxious to move forward as we are. He actually has money at stake. Most of us, I think, have literally nothing at stake other than our curiosity and our civic pride.

As for the "lack of any photo updates": people on the forums post photos when they get a chance (which BTW I greatly appreciate). But people do also have lives and interests other than keeping the forum updated.

Owning and living in downtown, I myself think that with the state of the current housing market that I have alot at stake that depends on every project downtown.

I specifically sold a home in Valencia to "hide" from the real estate bubble burst and so far my estimates show that I made the right move. Values have increased for our model unit while housing on our old street in Valencia have decreased considerably.

LosAngelesBeauty · #**1096** Posted **Jul 30, 2007, 9:10 PM**

Re: Medallion

The ugly billboard has been completely removed as of a few days ago from the parking lot.

colemonkee · #**1097** Posted **Jul 30, 2007, 9:59 PM**

^ "Ugly" is in the mind of the beholder.

Whether or not it was tasteful, well, that's an easier argument...

JDRCRASH · #**1098** Posted **Jul 30, 2007, 11:02 PM**

So is Medallion cancelled?

fridayinla · #**1099** Posted **Jul 30, 2007, 11:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by JDRCRASH

So is Medallion cancelled?

No way. As far as I'm concerned it's already broken ground. It's moving forward, just slowwwwlyyyy.

LongBeachUrbanist · #**1100** Posted **Jul 30, 2007, 11:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by k3d

Owning and living in downtown, I myself think that with the state of the current housing market that I have alot at stake that depends on every project downtown.

Of course you do: I didn't mean to imply you don't. My only point was to emphasize that Mr. Farkhondepour has a direct financial interest is in his project's success. I seriously doubt he is delaying his project for some trivial reason (such as to tease citywatch).

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Originally Posted by JDRCRASH

So is Medallion cancelled?

No. Although I can see how you'd get that impression from citywatch's moaning.