Sacramento Proposal/Approval/Construction Thread - III - Page 82

wburg · #**1621** Posted **Jul 13, 2007, 6:25 PM**

There is some concern about construction noise and vibration affecting nearby structures like the Elks Building and the Cathedral. However, the construction firm are the same ones who did the rehab of the Cathedral and I imagine they'd hate to see their work undone. They're also talking with the management of the Crest about how daytime construction will affect matinee films and other daytime events at the Crest.

snfenoc · #**1622** Posted **Jul 13, 2007, 7:23 PM**

Downtown high-rise condo project approved
Sacramento Business Journal - 11:41 AM PDT Friday, July 13, 2007by Michael ShawStaff writer
The city of Sacramento's Planning Commission on Thursday approved a 25-story condo project at the southwest corner of 11th and J streets.

Although the city has yet to approve one architectural element of the building -- a spire -- the approval means that developers St. Anton Investors LLC and the Cordano family could proceed if there are no appeals with a 10-day period.

The 250-foot tall, 233-condo project is called Cathedral Square, and would require knocking down existing commercial buildings on J Street. It will have 12,000 square feet of ground-floor retail space.

The spire proposed for the top of the building exceeds the city's Capitol Views Protection Ordinance and is due to be reviewed by the city's design commission this month.

TowerDistrict · #**1623** Posted **Jul 13, 2007, 7:37 PM**

The spire is totally unessessary, in my opinion. it's not integrated into the design of the building, and looks like an afterthought - which i guess it is. They didn't even bother to include it in all but one of the renderings.

That's interesting to hear the timeline for construction to start. This building has been in the pipeline for years now. I'd figure they had all the engineering details sorted. I wonder if they'll ramp that up if Saca starts pushing the Metro through?

creamcityleo79 · #**1624** Posted **Jul 14, 2007, 3:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by reggiesquared

Ugly doesn't unnecessarily mean its cheap to build nor does good design mean expensive to build. I find it unimaginative. Will people live in it? Probably. Would I be proud of it if i were the developer looking at the $$ bottom line, most likely. But I agree with others, nothing to write home about. It will take up some airspace downtown and look like a standard block. Good for downtown pedestrian traffic but bad architecturally speaking. I guess I don't like the "i can live with it" attitude with something so permanent.

Not every building has to be iconic or eye-catching. Some are perfectly ok being functional and neutral.

northbay · #**1625** Posted **Jul 14, 2007, 4:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by neuhickman79

Not every building has to be iconic or eye-catching. Some are perfectly ok being functional and neutral.

i agree. i like this building if only for the fact that it will add needed housing and retail to the downtown core in a relatively aesthetically-pleasing package.

only some of the buildings in a city should be iconic.

innov8 · #**1626** Posted **Jul 14, 2007, 7:37 PM**

ltsmotorsport pointed out in another thead under highrise construction that 500CM
is now a new addition to the diagrams. The Elks and the Citizen as well as a few
state towers are missing... but I think this is it for now. We should try to
get the CalSTRS tower drawn up too.

creamcityleo79 · #**1627** Posted **Jul 14, 2007, 7:52 PM**

Don't forget about Cathedral Square.

jsf8278 · #**1628** Posted **Jul 14, 2007, 11:19 PM**

What the deal with that 701 L st building. Ive never heard of it before.

creamcityleo79 · #**1629** Posted **Jul 15, 2007, 12:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by jsf8278

What the deal with that 701 L st building. Ive never heard of it before.

Ask Benvenuti. The general consensus here is that it's not a real proposal.

tuy · #**1630** Posted **Jul 15, 2007, 2:05 AM**

How about diagrams for Capitol Grand and Metropolitan? They would give the diagram a bit more height.

ltsmotorsport · #**1631** Posted **Jul 15, 2007, 2:47 AM**

Don't forget Epic. Though, in the past, it's been hard to get the illustrators to draw buildings for Sac. But all you gotta do is start a drawing request thread in the appropriate section.

Jay916 · #**1632** Posted **Jul 15, 2007, 6:07 AM**

WOW 18 people viewing the Sacramento subforum. That's got to be the highest ever.

Ryan@CU · #**1633** Posted **Jul 15, 2007, 11:06 PM**

Seeing the towers still makes me sick. I know i need to let it go, but damn, they were beautiful

bennywah · #**1634** Posted **Jul 15, 2007, 11:32 PM**

heres some low light pics I took during my brief stint in sac on Fri night

Shot with PENTAX Optio 750Z at 2007-07-15

JeffZurn · #**1635** Posted **Jul 16, 2007, 11:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by neuhickman79

Ask Benvenuti. The general consensus here is that it's not a real proposal.

I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that they were waiting for the Greyhound bus depot to be moved before any construction would start.

arod74 · #**1636** Posted **Jul 17, 2007, 4:51 PM**

I was tooling about capitol mall yesterday and drove past the crocker and it looks like they are going full tilt on the site prep. Much of the property is fenced in with scaffolding around the old mansion. Hopefully it wont be long before the concrete bunker add-on meets mr. wrecking ball. I should be in the area later this week and will try to get some pics.

wburg · #**1637** Posted **Jul 17, 2007, 5:14 PM**

They may have to re-plan part of the fire access road: there is a heritage tree on the site (a Bunya-Bunya pine) that is one of only five of that species in Sacramento (three in Capitol Park, one more in East Sacramento.) City staff stated it was maybe 75-100 years old, but there are photos of the tree from the 1880s. The fire department said that they didn't mind routing around it.

sugit · #**1638** Posted **Jul 17, 2007, 5:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by arod74

I was tooling about capitol mall yesterday and drove past the crocker and it looks like they are going full tilt on the site prep. Much of the property is fenced in with scaffolding around the old mansion. Hopefully it wont be long before the concrete bunker add-on meets mr. wrecking ball. I should be in the area later this week and will try to get some pics.

Official groundbreaking is on the 26th. If anyone is able to grab some photos, I'd love to see them.

arod74 · #**1639** Posted **Jul 17, 2007, 6:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by wburg

They may have to re-plan part of the fire access road: there is a heritage tree on the site (a Bunya-Bunya pine) that is one of only five of that species in Sacramento (three in Capitol Park, one more in East Sacramento.) City staff stated it was maybe 75-100 years old, but there are photos of the tree from the 1880s. The fire department said that they didn't mind routing around it.

Yes I heard the same. I heard that the one in east sac might also be in danger of being cut down. Hopefully they can flex the layout to keep the pine. It's a beautiful tree on par with anything displayed on a wall in the musuem. Besides I love saying Bunya-Bunya...

travis bickle · #**1640** Posted **Jul 17, 2007, 7:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by reggiesquared

Ugly doesn't unnecessarily mean its cheap to build nor does good design mean expensive to build. I find it unimaginative. Will people live in it? Probably. Would I be proud of it if i were the developer looking at the $$ bottom line, most likely. But I agree with others, nothing to write home about. It will take up some airspace downtown and look like a standard block. Good for downtown pedestrian traffic but bad architecturally speaking. I guess I don't like the "i can live with it" attitude with something so permanent.

Nothing spectacular, but I'm delighted to see something actually get started. I was discussing the design with one of our architects and he also seemed to think they build better than they draw. We'll see. This project is vital for J Street and all of downtown.. It's imperative to get a success story.

My apologies if already ready discussed, but does anyone know the price points yet?