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Old Posted Jul 10, 2007, 11:11 AM
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Viper, what's your opinion on what the Kirtland will do for that particular area? Is this the first of many in that vicinity?
     
     
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I saw this in the Trib this morning.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_6337529

Sales tax pitched to bring Broadway-style theater downtown

I think the idea has promise. It would be nice to get something really going on a broadway (theater) district. This would also encourage further developments in my opinion.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2007, 2:55 PM
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I agree with you Makid. It only makes sense on every front to add a larger broadway style theatre to downtown. The Capital is an exquisite gem,but we need a 2400 seater to accomodate the larger productions that are now passing us over. Ofcourse, these same merchants who would be taxed on the matter would in turn be more than richly compensated with the tremendous business generating potential, which occurs around these type of theatre productions. Metro Salt Lake has a tremendous vitality when it comes to theatre so let's get more directed to downtown as it should be. Broadway style theatre is one of those lifestyle, ambiance offerings that can't be pushed enough, when it comes to attracting a vibrant residential core downtown.
     
     
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I saw this in the Trib this morning.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_6337529

Sales tax pitched to bring Broadway-style theater downtown

I think the idea has promise. It would be nice to get something really going on a broadway (theater) district. This would also encourage further developments in my opinion.
I agree with you Makid, I think that could help to spur some development.

I really think the city, county, a non profit or anyone needs to step up and buy and refurbish the Utah. That would really help the city. It would be great if they could impliment a plan to refurb the Utah and create a couple of small theaters in between Rose Wagner, Capital, and Utah along with some distinctive signage and landscaping to make it feel like a distinct distric of the city.

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How well does Capital do? IMHO, I'd say if capital theatre is always sold out, and it seems clear that the city can support another theatre, then I'd say I'm for it.

If Capital isn't selling out on a refular basis, then I'd say the theatre plan is good - but needs to be shelved for another decade.
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I'm really begining to hate Real Salt Lake. I wish they would have been sold to Saint Louis!

Proposed Sandy soccer academy stirs SLC mayor's ire
By Rosemary Winters
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Article Last Updated:07/10/2007 06:38:00 AM MDT



Sandy has snagged a Major League Soccer stadium and $35 million in Salt Lake County hotel taxes to help build it. Now, the suburban city wants to land Real Salt Lake's elite soccer academy - once bound for Utah's capital - and Mayor Rocky Anderson is peeved.
Tonight, Sandy's City Council will pore over the details of a draft development agreement with RSL to build the $110 million stadium, using the county tax revenue and $10 million pledged by Sandy for land, infrastructure and parking. The document, which is expected to be approved next week, requires RSL to establish a soccer academy in Utah and "make its best efforts" to locate it in Sandy.
RSL also is encouraged to move its headquarters to Sandy - if the team ever decides to abandon its Trolley Corners offices in Salt Lake City.
Anderson says the academy - like RSL's $7.5 million contribution toward a youth sports complex - always was promised to Salt Lake City. That's why he lobbied state lawmakers earlier this year for the team to receive those hotel taxes, even though his city lost out on the stadium itself.
"When [RSL officials] went up to the Legislature, they made it very clear to us that the academy would be in Salt Lake City," Anderson said Monday. If the academy is built in Sandy, "it might even constitute an interference with contractual relationships."
"They made the promise. A promise is a contract," Anderson said, acknowledging RSL has not signed any written agreements to build the academy in Utah's capital.
Last month, the team delivered a letter of credit for the $7.5 million pegged for Salt Lake City's youth fields. But lately RSL has been noncommittal about the academy's location.
"The greater Salt Lake County area" is a possibility, RSL Chief Executive Officer Dean Howes said in May.
Team spokesman Trey Fitzgerald confirmed Monday that RSL has not found a site for the academy - that's not at the top of the priority list. And the franchise is waiting to comment on Sandy's draft agreement until the team's lawyers review it.
City Council Chairman Bryant Anderson said Sandy doesn't have a site set for the academy but "there are places in the vicinity of the stadium that would work." Sandy Mayor Tom Dolan has said he would welcome the project.
In the draft, Sandy also requests RSL provide marketing opportunities, access to a free, 12-person suite and use of the stadium for community events four times per year. And Sandy wants final say on who gets naming rights to the stadium.
In 1996, the Utah Grizzlies hockey team drew community outrage and a rare rebuke from the LDS Church when it mentioned the possibility of selling the naming rights for West Valley City's E Center to Coors Brewing Co.
"We obviously want a sponsor . . . that would reflect the values of our family-oriented community," said Councilman Dennis Tenney, though he noted control of naming rights was not a "deal breaker" for him.
As part of the deal, Sandy will buy the 29 acres at 9256 S. State St. for the stadium and lease the land back to RSL. The property is worth $25.7 million, according to the document. In April, RSL owner Dave Checketts said the team paid $22 million for the land, and Sandy would pay "exactly to the penny" what the team spent.
Layton-Turner Construction is building the stadium for $72.4 million. And RSL plans to spend $11.9 million on public infrastructure and parking, which can be reimbursed by public funds. Still, if Sandy invests its combined $45 million in public money in the land, parking and infrastructure expenses outlined in the agreement, that leaves $7.4 million unspent.
Bryant Anderson said he asked the city's economic-development director what happens with the remainder, but hasn't received an answer yet. It could be part of tonight's discussion.
By July 31, Sandy plans to issue the $35 million in bonds, which will be paid back over the next 20 years using the first 15 percent of Salt Lake County's 4.25 percent transient-room tax. In the draft agreement, Sandy promises to issue its $10 million bond, backed by new property taxes generated by the stadium, no later than March 1.
If RSL develops retail space, offices and lodging around the stadium - as planned - it can receive another $5 million in tax-increment financing from Sandy for infrastructure expenses.
Jordan School District, which will receive property-tax revenue from the project, is not being asked to participate in any of the stadium financing.
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I'm glad RSL is still here. I'm excited for the stadium. Sandy is asking for quite a bit too..
     
     
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I've already decided to boycott RSL and Sandy in general. This is one county resident that won't be lured to "The New Downtown"
you Sandy, for fracturing the valley and decentralizing the entertainment here.
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That's the spirit! Boycott Sandy and support West Valley City!

No, but seriously. I worry more and more about RSL. We've either got to decide to support the team for the long haul, or dump them now before we waste too much precious moola on them. I have a feeling that in the end, we'll pour millions into a team that will pack up and move to a bigger city in 10 years.

Then what good is a soccer stadium without a team?
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I am a rabid supporter of RSL, and my fear is that they will continue to suck and the ownership will do nothing to improve the team. If the team starts to compete year in and year out, the community support will stay strong. It's interensting, though, that for as bad as RSL is, they still get a good showing of fans for each game (compared to other MLS teams).
     
     
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I-215 : different sized theatres hold different sized productions which attract different people. it is like comparing the dollar theatre to jordan commons to the salt lake city fiml society tower place thingy. Plus there have been studies done. this project has been on the back burner for a minute now. Salt Lake is one of the most cautious city's when it comes to development, hence part of the reasonf or why we have less than we could.

check out this PDF

http://downtownslc.com/business/arts-culture-district.htm
     
     
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Thanks for the link Scraper.

I think the point is proven by the fact that shows want to come here because they see the demand but often times are unable to on the first go around. However they always end up coming through SLC once they have a scaled down travel version.

I currently live in Cleveland, and despite the horrible economy and the ranking as the contries poorest city the Theater district here is still thriving. The area surrounding the theater district has a good number of restaurants and a few shops and would be even better if the economy here wasn't in the toilet.
     
     
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I-215 : different sized theatres hold different sized productions which attract different people. it is like comparing the dollar theatre to jordan commons to the salt lake city fiml society tower place thingy. Plus there have been studies done. this project has been on the back burner for a minute now. Salt Lake is one of the most cautious city's when it comes to development, hence part of the reasonf or why we have less than we could.

check out this PDF

http://downtownslc.com/business/arts-culture-district.htm

I was thinking along the lines that if a city ... let's take Magna (my home town) can barely support a half-rate 5 screen theatre, then it's not very likely it is going to support a MegaPlex 12. I guess it's like comparing a burger king and La Quille ... argueably, a similar business, but on a different scale.

I'll take a look at the PDF ... I do think the city probably could support another theatre, but I'd hate to see it take 25 years to become financially stable (in a worst case scenerio).
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I found the kirtland condos that Viper was talking about today while I was driving around downtown.

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That first level looks like it's going to be parking while the upper levels are the units. Looks to be 5-stories tall. Glad to see development around that area, that part of town seems to be run down.
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11 story Social Hall Parking Garage has broken ground!!!

The 11-story Social Hall Parking Garage has broken ground!!!


If you guys remember there was a old 7-story parking garage at social hall that came down a few months ago as part of the city creek center project. Part of the plan was to built a 11-story parking garage in it's place with more parking stalls with ground level retail stores.

Well I went by there today and notice that crews have already began on this project.












Not much to see right now, but it's a start.
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So, SLC projects, I guess you are saying that my office is in a run down portion of town. I work just one block to the south. right by the trax station.


Also, you mean to tell me that you were in the area, and you didn't take photos of the SoDo lofts construction, or the old sure appliance RDA parcel lot??? (all within a block of this location) lol


I guess we finally have something over ten stories u/c in our downtown..

Some other downtown news, that will have you scratching your head....read the article carefully....

http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_6341627
     
     
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Update on Other Projects

Update on two others projects...



Church Library

The new 5-story LDS Church Library is coming along. Steel beams are reaching higher and higher and we are now starting to get a idea of the size of the building that is on Main Street and North Temple.










Metro Condos


The 7-story Metro Condo building is now topped out as you can see as most of the window are getting put into place. This building on 200 East and 400 South should be finish by this fall.






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So, SLC projects, I guess you are saying that my office is in a run down portion of town. I work just one block to the south. right by the trax station.


Also, you mean to tell me that you were in the area, and you didn't take photos of the SoDo lofts construction, or the old sure appliance RDA parcel lot??? (all within a block of this location) lol


Sorry I didn't mean to say that your work place is run down. LOL. I never really drive down 300 west pass 600 South. But some of the buildings there seems run down to me. But like I said I'm glad the area is getting redeveloped.

I did remember seeing another crane just South of Kirkland Condos. That crane is not as tall or as big as the Kirkland's crane. but looks like there's another project going on there. It look like it was passed 700 South just east of 300 West. Is that the SoDo lofts you're talking about?
I'm not sure what the old sure appliance RDA parcel lot is.
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Delts, in response to your question about the Kirtland Condos,and that area of town. All within 1.5 blocks of this building you have....

phase one of Angelina's Corner U/C.... you can see it in the photos SLC shot of the Kirtland Condos.


There will be a phase 2 Angelina's Corner. It will include 60-70 condos and will be located directly south of phase 1. It is scheduled/said to begin construction as soon as phase 1 is finished. So, We'll see.

You have the Sodo Lofts, 975 south Washington Street. 18 loft units. It is currently U/C. The elevator core appears to be 4 floors tall. They have already 3 floors framed so far.

The RDA is also asking for a mixed-use high density development on 900 south and 150 west. Its the site of the old Sure Appliances store. They are currently demolishing the old building as we speak. I'm guessing we will see atleast a 4-6 story building go on this lot as well.

So, as you can see, This area of town is starting to look like a nice dense residential neighborhood.
     
     
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lol, yeah that crane would be the SODO lofts...The sure appliance lot is just right up the street from the Sodo Lofts.

Our office used to be an old Bank building, my boss bought the building, and renovated it into our office space for our 50 employees. My boss also also owns two older homes by our office as well. He has been approached by the city numerous times asking what he plans to do with the houses. I overhead somewhere around the office that Nancy Saxton was looking at buying one of those houses to renovate for herself. lol
     
     
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