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Old Posted Jul 7, 2007, 5:31 PM
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Thanks viper.. can't complain too much, as for infill, the thing will be our 5th tallest! That's not too bad...
Actually, I think it will only be the 7th tallest. It might even be the 8th after the Walker Center installs it's sign.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2007, 9:39 PM
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According to Emporis.com with the 222 South Main toping at 316 ft will make the tower the city's 11th tallest just 4 feet short of the 10th tallest. ( Eagle Gate Plaza tower at 320 ft. )
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2007, 9:46 PM
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I guess the ultimate question, putting land aside..... what's the per unit cost of construction for a ....

1) 3 bed, 2 bath freestanding house.

versus

2) 3 bed, 2 bath townhome

3) 3 bed, 2 bath multi-floor condo

4) 3 bed, 2 bath in a highrise.

Add that to the cost of land, it may explain why downtown will always be more expensive. Certainly having a greater supply will help, but I think dense construction simply costs more, and the land makes it become unaffordable.

Does anybody have any construction connections, who could answer my question?
Setting aside the zoning and the use of other properties in the area, it's the cost of land that determines everything. You wouldn't buy a lot in Manhattan for several million dollars per acre and then put a one-story ranch-style home on it. It wouldn't be economically feasible. Similarly, you wouldn't buy a residential home lot in a suburban subdivision and put up a commercial high rise.

You incur building costs in accordance with the value of the land on which you are building. Therefore, if it's economically feasible to build a high-rise, it means that the land was very expensive and in order to recoup enough of the land costs from each residential unit, you have to build far more square feet of space than is available on the site (you must go up). If you can make money on the project by only building one or two floors, it means the land wasn't that expensive (relatively).

So to answer your question (sort of), your four styles of residential are listed in order from least expensive to most expensive, but not necessarily because of actual building costs, but because of what type of parcel you would build each of them on.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2007, 9:54 PM
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Anyone else think that come 2011 there's going to be more retail than the population of salt lake county can handle?

City Creek Center, Salt Lake City: Downtown redevelopment announced in October 2006 for the sites of the ZCMI Center and Crossroads Plaza to feature retail, office and residential spaces. Expected finish date is 2011.
Trolley Square, Salt Lake City: Renovations announced in October 2006, adding a 50,000-square-foot building, reconfiguring corridors and building a parking structure. The corridors are expected to be completed in October.
Fashion Place, Murray: Renovations announced in June 2007, adding 230,000 square feet. Expected finish date is 2010.
South Towne Center, Sandy: Renovations announced in April 2006, adding 100,000 square feet to the west side.
Valley Fair, West Valley City: Renovations announced in October 2006. The redevelopment also will entail housing and light rail. The project is expected to be finished in 15 to 20 years.

And that's not to mention the farminton station center that will take Davis county people away from the salt lake malls. It just seems like all these malls will be competing with each other and I'm not sure the population can support them all. Let's hope there is a large immigration of people to the area concurrent with all this redeveloped retail.
The bottom line is that retail developers see a huge boom in population and income and want to take advantage of it. They don't care what projects are proposed by other developers, at least not yet. Each of those projects are simply a developer proposing a higher and better use of its site. Proposals of this sort are put out into the public to generate excitement and future retail leases. However, if there is more retail space available than there is demand for that space, the project will either be scaled back or scrapped altogether.

Come back here in a couple of years and you'll see that not all of these projects have come to fruition because there simply isn't enough demand for all of them. However, each of the developers wants to be the one whose project actually happens, so when their competitors announce a project and start soliciting retailers, they HAVE to come up with a similar or better project to thwart their competitors. Ultimately the best projects will win out, but all of them won't be able to.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2007, 10:06 PM
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And this is what Salt Lake's skyline will look like when it's completed.



What sucks is that from this vantage point, the One Utah Center will almost be completely blocked out.

Looking from the south or the north from I-15 shouldn't obstruct it as much. When you look at it direct at that angle it does suck. Hopefully some of this infill comes to fruition.
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A possible look into the future of downtown SLC if all the proposed towers go through...

     
     
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Looking from the south or the north from I-15 shouldn't obstruct it as much. When you look at it direct at that angle it does suck. Hopefully some of this infill comes to fruition.
it may block the views of One Utah Tower, but just imagine how it will make main much more like looking down a canyon.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2007, 11:02 PM
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A possible look into the future of downtown SLC if all the proposed towers go through...

Its been awhile since i spent much time on this forum and i don't think i want to spend all the time reading the other 70 pages to find out my 2 questions.

Q#1. What tower is the one in the middle?
Q#2. What tower is the skinny one just left of One Utah?
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2007, 11:05 PM
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The tower(s) in the middle are the Cowboy Partners tower(s) which are proposed on the old Social Hall site. The skinny tower is the Global Exchange Place, which is proposed on the current site of Carls Junior at 200 S and State.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 8, 2007, 12:23 AM
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A possible look into the future of downtown SLC if all the proposed towers go through...



Nice work. If we do get all these towers Salt Lake City will have a whole new skyline.

I really like the tall skinny blue building. ( City Creek tower 2. ) It will be one of the city's new tallest at 32 stories.
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Hey Comrade, nice work on the photo.
I can't wait for the new towers to start rising up into the skyline.
Do you think we will ever get something in the 40 to 45 story range?

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Old Posted Jul 9, 2007, 1:23 AM
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Nice picture, but you got Tower 2 wrong. From the west you'd see the broadside. We don't have a picture of it from that angle though. Also the one across from Temple Square should be taller I think. Isn't it 26 stories?
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2007, 2:21 AM
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Nice picture, but you got Tower 2 wrong. From the west you'd see the broadside. We don't have a picture of it from that angle though. Also the one across from Temple Square should be taller I think. Isn't it 26 stories?
Of course it's wrong, I don't have a rendering from that side. I just used that rendering because it was probably the closest thing I could find.
     
     
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I'm glad I found this forum, I've been on the CCC forum for a couple of weeks now, but unlike that one I'm not sure I will be going back and reading all 72 or so pages of this one. But I'll do my best.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2007, 5:26 PM
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Nice work. If we do get all these towers Salt Lake City will have a whole new skyline.

I really like the tall skinny blue building. ( City Creek tower 2. ) It will be one of the city's new tallest at 32 stories.
Now that is sweet.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2007, 12:59 AM
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Just a thought....
With all the proposed buildings for SLC (as graphically shown above, thanks Comrade); could the lack of more office building proposals be from the limited number of construction companies in the area who can actually build high-rise buildings? In other words, are the construction companies already committed to the other proposed projects and don't have the resources to tackle anything new until years down the road?
As I said, just a thought. What do y'all think?
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2007, 2:44 AM
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Just a thought....
With all the proposed buildings for SLC (as graphically shown above, thanks Comrade); could the lack of more office building proposals be from the limited number of construction companies in the area who can actually build high-rise buildings? In other words, are the construction companies already committed to the other proposed projects and don't have the resources to tackle anything new until years down the road?
As I said, just a thought. What do y'all think?

I've wonder that myself. I think the construction companies could be stretch thin with all the projects going on right now. Not just with building projects, but with all the road projects going on as well.
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2007, 3:46 AM
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What is with all the multi colored buildings these days?
     
     
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got to do something with the colored stucco thats not going to use....right?
     
     
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