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Old Posted Jun 12, 2007, 6:25 AM
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Council chambers abuzz over city growth

Tue, June 12, 2007

By JONATHAN SHER, SUN MEDIA




In a prelude to a fight over how London grows and who pays for it, council members yesterday accused one another of hitting below the belt.

"Despite all that we hear about the code of conduct and bullying, it seems it's alive and well," Coun. Joni Baechler said in council chambers.

Baechler has pushed council to more closely manage how the city grows, as have three others on the planning committee, all of whom have last names beginning with the letter B -- Controller Gina Barber and Councillors Judy Bryant and Nancy Branscombe.

Detractors sometimes refer to them as the Killer Bs, a label that appeared in a Free Press article on Saturday.

Wearing a bee pin on her blouse, Baechler buzzed back at yesterday's planning committee meeting.

"I don't say there are members of council who are so far in developers' pockets they're spitting lint," she said.

Coun. Susan Eagle, also a proponent of more managed growth, took aim at Controller Gord Hume and Coun. Roger Caranci.

Both Hume and Caranci say they want growth to keep housing prices affordable, but both also opposed extra city money to support affordable housing during budget deliberations, Eagle said.

"I find that a little difficult to swallow," Eagle said.

The same could be said of the reaction of those on the other side of the debate, council members who are less concerned about managing growth and more concerned about it being stifling.

"I stick by my comments in the paper," Caranci said.

As for the term "Killer Bs", Caranci said, "I have heard it in the community, but I have never said it."

A number of councillors accused Eagle of playing word games by muddying the difference between what they want -- keeping housing affordable for workers -- and what she wants: Creating subsidized housing for those with little or no income.

"Not everyone wants to go and have the government hand them a home," Coun. Paul Van Meerbergen said. "(Some) want to work for it."

Though Branscombe is clearly on one side of the debate, she implored others to be civil.

"I beseech councillors to be careful with the name-calling. I don't thinks it furthers the debate," she said.

There's no doubt council will change the way it has allowed the city to grow after a blue ribbon panel, chosen with the agreement of developers, suggested changes.

But the question is how much -- and the answer could affect everything from property taxes to jobs.

Those pushing for the most change want council to take firm control over the reins of growth, targeting sections of the city a few at a time and being mindful that the public purse is limited -- the city has imposed an annual $30-million debt cap after past councils spent well beyond the city's means.

On the other side are those who believe council should, to a large extent, let developers and the private sector call the shots. To do otherwise, they say, risks an economic slowdown and job losses.

The debate on growth resumes tonight.

Tue, June 12, 2007

By JONATHAN SHER, SUN MEDIA




In a prelude to a fight over how London grows and who pays for it, council members yesterday accused one another of hitting below the belt.

"Despite all that we hear about the code of conduct and bullying, it seems it's alive and well," Coun. Joni Baechler said in council chambers.

Baechler has pushed council to more closely manage how the city grows, as have three others on the planning committee, all of whom have last names beginning with the letter B -- Controller Gina Barber and Councillors Judy Bryant and Nancy Branscombe.

Detractors sometimes refer to them as the Killer Bs, a label that appeared in a Free Press article on Saturday.

Wearing a bee pin on her blouse, Baechler buzzed back at yesterday's planning committee meeting.

"I don't say there are members of council who are so far in developers' pockets they're spitting lint," she said.

Coun. Susan Eagle, also a proponent of more managed growth, took aim at Controller Gord Hume and Coun. Roger Caranci.

Both Hume and Caranci say they want growth to keep housing prices affordable, but both also opposed extra city money to support affordable housing during budget deliberations, Eagle said.

"I find that a little difficult to swallow," Eagle said.

The same could be said of the reaction of those on the other side of the debate, council members who are less concerned about managing growth and more concerned about it being stifling.

"I stick by my comments in the paper," Caranci said.

As for the term "Killer Bs", Caranci said, "I have heard it in the community, but I have never said it."

A number of councillors accused Eagle of playing word games by muddying the difference between what they want -- keeping housing affordable for workers -- and what she wants: Creating subsidized housing for those with little or no income.

"Not everyone wants to go and have the government hand them a home," Coun. Paul Van Meerbergen said. "(Some) want to work for it."

Though Branscombe is clearly on one side of the debate, she implored others to be civil.

"I beseech councillors to be careful with the name-calling. I don't thinks it furthers the debate," she said.

There's no doubt council will change the way it has allowed the city to grow after a blue ribbon panel, chosen with the agreement of developers, suggested changes.

But the question is how much -- and the answer could affect everything from property taxes to jobs.

Those pushing for the most change want council to take firm control over the reins of growth, targeting sections of the city a few at a time and being mindful that the public purse is limited -- the city has imposed an annual $30-million debt cap after past councils spent well beyond the city's means.

On the other side are those who believe council should, to a large extent, let developers and the private sector call the shots. To do otherwise, they say, risks an economic slowdown and job losses.

The debate on growth resumes tonight.
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Old Posted Jun 12, 2007, 10:36 AM
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^^^ Looking at the picture of the hariston above,... thats the only design for the buidling Ive seen. Its nice and Im not complaining, but I think its funny that the city needed to get involved to avoid another big slab of concrete.
Also I was driving down Wharncliffe the other day and it looks like its around 14-16 floors now, does anyone have any recent pictures? Id love to see them
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2007, 5:27 AM
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Second Toyota Plant Set to Open in 2013

Second Toyota Plant Set to Open in 2013

A second Toyota plant for Woodstock is moving past the rumour stage.

A background report for the City and Oxford County says Toyota expects to open a second assembly plant in Woodstock in six years.

Toyota's President, Yoichi Tomihara, was coy when he was asked by A-Channel News about the expansion while in London two nights ago.

But the consulting company Paradigm Transportation Solutions says it got its information from a study that Toyota itself commissioned.

The first plant, which will build the Rav-4 opens next year and will employ about 2000 workers.

It's on a 400-hectare site, which is unusually large for an auto operation.

That's what has prompted speculation of a future second plant.
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2007, 3:55 PM
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Hundreds of new lots could be unleashed

Hundreds of new lots could be unleashed

Sat, June 16, 2007

London city hall staff recommend the building lots be approved, calming fears of a shortage.

By JOE BELANGER, SUN MEDIA



Hundreds of new building lots could soon become available in London, ending the development industry's fears that the city's red-hot growth could grind to a halt.

On Monday, city hall staff will report to two city council committees, recommending measures to clear a logjam of development approvals.

The move comes amid growing concern among developers that city hall is turning anti-growth.

Just this week, the industry formed a new lobby group -- Keep London Growing Coalition -- to drive home the message that thousands of area jobs hang in the balance.

"It will allow development to proceed and keep up with demand," Steve Janes, president of the London Development Institute, said of the staff recommendations.

Janes limited his comments, saying the institute is reviewing the recommendations.

But Janes said there may be as few as 500 unsold building lots left in the city, well below the 2,000-plus inventory officials say is required to meet demand and keep prices affordable.

Staff will make presentations to city council's planning and environment and transportation committees.

The number of lots that will come on the market isn't known.

Staff say there's potential for hundreds.

Staff recommend:

- Allowing a few small developments in the Stoney Creek area, where there's concern about erosion in the creek.

- An environmental assessment and approval of a trunk sewer in the Sunningdale area that should clear the way for high-end building lots developers say are needed.

- The removal of a hold on new subdivisions served by the Oxford sewage plant, including Hyde Park and Riverbend, because an expansion will be completed early next year.

Controller Gord Hume, who raised the alarm about approval delays, is pleased about the recommendations and hopeful city council gives a green light.

"It starts to break the logjam we've had," he said.

"We're starting to address the immediate problem, so this is a good step forward. But we've still got to solve the medium and long-term problems."

The debate comes as construction continues to boom in the London area.

Housing starts totalled 3,674 in 2006, the best year since 1989.

To date in 2007, there have been 1,380 housing starts, just two per cent behind the starts in the same period last year, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp. said this month.

The city's Official Plan is under review and some developers, construction workers and unions worry that council may take steps to dampen growth, such as in growth management guidelines now being developed.

Some in the industry suggested city staff, sympathetic to an anti-growth faction on city council, were needlessly delaying approvals.

But staff say major technical issues, such as the need for more sewage capacity, were causing delays.

Two recent decisions of council -- one blocking a developer's plans for a plaza in the northeast and a community plan in the Riverbend area -- also fuelled fears in the industry.

A majority on council say they want to know the pricetag taxpayers face before opening up new areas to developments.

In recent years, city staff, some members of council and others have warned the city is growing in too many directions at a cost taxpayers can't absorb.

That's because some developments cost taxpayers millions of dollars up front for new infrastructure but take decades to refill city coffers.

Sunningdale is considered an expensive area to open up. Staff estimate it will cost taxpayers upwards of $7 million over the next five years, but take decades before that cost is recovered.

Hume said he expects a heated debate and at least some opposition from some members of council.

Coun. Joni Baechler, chair of planning committee, said she's leaning toward supporting staff's recommendations but first wants to hear from the public.

"Staff make a solid argument for us to go ahead with (Sunningdale)," she said.

"It is an expensive development (for taxpayers), but it's also been in the works for a long time. If it was new, we might put more weight on the expense."
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2007, 8:35 PM
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Development News:
According to the City's Building Division, two new permits were approved for apartment buildings.
The first is the long-awaited Tricar 12 floor 137 unit at 1985 Richmond (eg Richmond Hill)
The second is the still longer-awaited Prespa 6 floor 43 unit at 435 Colborne (Woodfield Walk).
Expect both to start groundbreaking soon (if they haven't already- I am in Montreal right now!). The second is good evidence that there isn't a slowdown downtown, but it does mean that in about a year, there will be about 600 units hitting the market there. (Harriston, Renaissance I, 544 Talbot, Woodfield Walk)

As an aside, what do you think will be the next big project downtown- this is a poll.

1) Farhi's Library Tower
2) Drewlo's Locust Mount
3) Farhi's Richmond block tower
4) Southside/ Ridout group Clarence/King site
other...
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Exclamation Time for Action on Infill

Suburban sprawl is the most acute environmental problem faced by London today. Sprawl destroys valuable farmland; low densities and bad design ensure near total reliance on cars, contributing to smog and climate change. There are financial pains too: sprawl relies on a model promising that tomorrow’s growth will pay for the debts incurred by today’s.
Luckily, we are beginning to administer sprawl’s antidote : tighter planning controls, better accounting for costs and infill.
Infill is the intensification of development in built-up areas- denser neighbourhoods with easier access to shopping and jobs.
Infill is generally more cost-efficient and less car-dependent. Unfortunately, it often faces concerted opposition, even from those acknowledge the problems of sprawl.
To curb sprawl, infill cannot mean just a few houses on empty lots or new towers downtown- it involves substantial change to the look of our avenues, major nodes and many neighbourhoods.
Infill does not mean anything goes. Its success depends on sensitive design and planning, but it is also dependent on the acceptance of significant change in our city. Lip service will no longer do- it is high time that London get serious about infill.
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2007, 11:13 PM
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"As an aside, what do you think will be the next big project downtown- this is a poll.

1) Farhi's Library Tower
2) Drewlo's Locust Mount
3) Farhi's Richmond block tower
4) Southside/ Ridout group Clarence/King site
other..."

The only developement Ive heard of was the library project, I couldnt really even find anything on the other projects. damn uselss google.
If theres any good sites/ information Id like to see it, please post links if possible
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all of them are just rumoured developments. The Drewlo one is on Talbot near Mill. The Farhi one is Richmond and Central (behind Symposium, along the park).
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Plans to open lots going to council

Tue, June 19, 2007

By JOE BELANGER, SUN MEDIA



Measures to clear a logjam of development approvals and open up hundreds of new building lots now head to city council for approval.

With little opposition, council's planning and environment and transportation committees approved several reports to open up new lots.

The move comes amid growing concern among developers that city hall is turning anti-growth and that the number of lots for sale has dropped to a few hundred instead of the recommended 2,000.

Last week, the industry formed a lobby group -- Keep London Growing Coalition -- to drive home the message that thousands of area jobs hang in the balance.

If approved by city council, staff's recommendations would see at least 800 new lots come on stream this year, mostly in the area serviced by the expanding Oxford sewage treatment plant, Stoney Creek and the Medway Creek valley.

Not all committee members were supportive.

Controller Gina Barber opposed some of the Medway Creek Valley proposals after staff said it would cost more than $4 million to put in a trunk sewer with only a few hundred thousand in fees expected in the first five years.
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Update!

ADVANCES IN RESEARCH: The Biotron at the University of Western Ontario should be opening in a couple of months. Science writers meeting in London this week toured the building yesterday.
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Update!

A construction worker stands out from the blue sky as he works on the new recreation centre at the University of Western Ontario. The centre will feature basketball courts squash courts and an Olympic-size pool.
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SO thats what theyre building there! I've been trying to figure that out lol. Nice love squash
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Sifton Gets Thumbs Down on Riverside Development

Update!
A prized piece of London green space won't be home to an office tower, at least for now.

The City's Planning Committee has voted to turn down an office tower planned for Riverside and Wonderland.

Area residents say the land along the Thames has been zoned parkland and connects with the existing parks in the area.

City staff had recommended permitting a three story building geared to medical or dental practices.

Sifton Developments was looking for a five storey building which would include other uses on the ground floor including a restaurant.

The City and Sifton had been talking about a land swap or buyout of the land, but no deal has been worked out at this time.

If the committee's recommendation holds up at council next Monday, the issue will likely head to the Ontario Municipal Board.
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Just a little bit of info from City Hall. My section right now is working on a small section of greenroof for the south east section of the parking garage roof.
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Sounds like a neat project. I would really like to see most of the "Civic Centre" complex redeveloped, including the hideous and seldom-used Reg Cooper Sq. Most of the Wellington frontage should be sold for condos, retail etc.
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Sounds like a neat project. I would really like to see most of the "Civic Centre" complex redeveloped, including the hideous and seldom-used Reg Cooper Sq. Most of the Wellington frontage should be sold for condos, retail etc.
Well there isn't much budget for it, but I know most want something done with it. Until there is a serious problem nothing will be done. There are some that want to build a New City Hall in the near future.
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^^ Yeah good luck with that. The city needs 3x the ammount of sq. footage it pressently has at city hall and there is NO money to build a new structure of that size.
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^^ Yeah good luck with that. The city needs 3x the ammount of sq. footage it pressently has at city hall and there is NO money to build a new structure of that size.

Oh I know that...I'm crammed in there...Our floor has budget to bring in 3-4 people and one possible desk
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u work at city hall? very cool, so I guess your our inside guy at the city planning dept.
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