Millennium Line - Evergreen Extension | Completed - Page 8

deasine · #**141** Posted **Jun 17, 2007, 5:59 AM**

Oh and I thought there was news when I saw UNREAD. HAHA!

It's called the Nevergreen Line

Mininari · #**142** Posted **Jun 17, 2007, 4:06 PM**

Sorry ... the only news I've seen lately is Carole James calling for the line to be built.

SpongeG · #**143** Posted **Jun 17, 2007, 8:25 PM**

i am not familiar with the b line - but i think the majority of passengers get on at Coquitlam Centre so the idea to run it along lougheed is a good one as there can't be that many riders getting on it other than part of port moody

there would be so much more to serve along lougheed - the riverview staff, IKEA, the big box stores etc. - they could even branch it off braid and serve that new planned community along coquitlams riverfront

Mininari · #**144** Posted **Jun 17, 2007, 11:52 PM**

These are all good things to service.
It would encourage industrial workers along United Boulevard to take transit as well... but they will need to build a pedestrian overpass over the Freeway.

I know from experience that many people who get on the B-line at Lougheed tend to get off around the Como Lake and Glenayre bus stops. The Glenayre stop will no longer exist with Evergreen in place, so they're going to need to CONTINUE bus service to Glenayre. It seems to me that the majority of people who live in the newport developments have cars, or if they do happen to work downtown, then they will walk to the West Coast Express.

Honestly, I'd rather have the line go through Port Moody, but with the current cash crunch I simply don't think its the best route choice (nevermind the technology choice). If you're going to invest into something expensive like a bored tunnel, then justify the cost with the superior system.

Its like buying a car and not wanting to pay for any extras.
I dunno, my air conditioner is quite useful, and the power locks are a fully appreciated convenience.
I'm happy that I paid an extra $1000.00 for that package. I think the Tri-city commuters of the future will appreciate a grade separated system in the same way.

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Originally Posted by SpongeG

i am not familiar with the b line - but i think the majority of passengers get on at Coquitlam Centre so the idea to run it along lougheed is a good one as there can't be that many riders getting on it other than part of port moody

there would be so much more to serve along lougheed - the riverview staff, IKEA, the big box stores etc. - they could even branch it off braid and serve that new planned community along coquitlams riverfront

mr.x · #**145** Posted **Jun 18, 2007, 12:17 AM**

i am starting a pro-SkyTrain Evergreen Line website/blog....more details later.

it'll be evergreenline.(tbd).com ....... but i can't think of a good website title. All i have now is "SkyTrain for Evergreen Line". Any ideas?

deasine · #**146** Posted **Jun 18, 2007, 12:48 AM**

Oh if you need help with any web design I don't mind helping you. But if you are doing a blog, you don't have to do no htmling...

EverSky Line... Actually this is hard to think of names... I still can't see why they chose a LRT instead of SkyTrain, I mean they built an extra platform on Lougheed Station for this.... sigh...

Nutterbug · #**147** Posted **Jun 18, 2007, 1:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by Jared

I think the SkyTrain to UBC will eventually get rammed down their throats (i.e too much demand for Translink/Province/COV to pretend its unnessecary), but the NIMBYs would force it to be tunneled. I'm curious how much extra the tunnel would cost (vs. elevated), compared to the drop in house value in areas near the line (and hence lower property taxes for the city) if the line was elevated.

If they do that, they better densify the area like crazy to justify its cost. I hope they set the right precedent with the Cambie corridor.

The_Henry_Man · #**148** Posted **Jun 18, 2007, 2:05 AM**

I went through North Rd/Clarke/St Johns St corridor to Henderson Mall last wk or two and on the way checked out the route out a bit, and it really struck me how Tranlink will be able to effectively at many places widen the corridor to accomodate Evergreen Line.

Lougheed Town Centre Stn to Cameron/Foster- that part is acceptable.

Cameron to Barnet- that is one very narrow street. Just barely enough two lanes each way without any centre median. Sure, you can greatly widen it as shown on the Translink website, but would residents/other owners protest the expropriation of some of their properties? You're talking a GREAT SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THEIR FRONT YARD, in order to fit two more lanes for LRT. And a lot of the houses and properites sits pretty close to the sidewalk. I really don't know how Translink will manage to effectively widen the street, as well as accomodate the tunnel portal and the stations. It essentially decreases the train's speed and that it effectively destroys its function as rapid transit.

St. Johns St- I REALLY DON"T SEE what's so special, pristine, and cute town-like feel of the area as Joe Trasolini claimed to be (even Steveston Harbour beats that). Apart of a few storefronts along the road, most are just suburban-style warehouses, car dealers (Lexus/Toyota) and some houses along the way. I really don't think the Skytrain guideway would ruin the town-like feel of the area. Don't forget you also have the inner streets both north and south of St. Johns to really beautify the city (and connect it with the Port Moody WCE station)

**Conclusion- Evergreen Line (as-is, with LRT option): spectacular failure. Waste of money with very little time saved for commuting (it will inevitably interfere with rest of the traffic due to narrow street at many parts along the route). Just a political show.

mr.x · #**149** Posted **Jun 18, 2007, 2:37 AM**

give me some tips: http://evergreenline.wordpress.com/

it's far from done of course.

deasine · #**150** Posted **Jun 18, 2007, 4:42 AM**

^it isn't bad but if u can change the font for the title it would be nice. and if the links (top navigation) were dark-grey semi-transparent, it would be nice too. I like those pics =D

overall nice job

mr.x · #**151** Posted **Jun 18, 2007, 5:54 AM**

^ thx. i don't really like my banner.

i would really appreciate if somebody could help me make a banner for the site. It has to be exactly 690 x 115 pixels, and would be great if it could contain pictures of SkyTrain - Lougheed Station with people and MK II cars.

Lemme know!

http://evergreenline.wordpress.com/

deasine · #**152** Posted **Jun 18, 2007, 6:01 AM**

I will do that. Give me two days as I am doing someone elses site right now.

hey ur new design looks better. But the image is smaller now... so...

mr.x · #**153** Posted **Jun 18, 2007, 6:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by deasine

I will do that. Give me two days as I am doing someone elses site right now.

hey ur new design looks better. But the image is smaller now... so...

thx, but just don't put any text onto it, and would be awesome if you could add in the Evergreen Line green swoosh logo to the right of the banner. thx again!

690 x 115 pixels

deasine · #**154** Posted **Jun 19, 2007, 7:20 PM**

Here it is. Doesn't look very nice though, did it in 20 min. (including finding photos):
http://members.shaw.ca/clauf/skytrain.png

If you want to edit the PSD file:
http://members.shaw.ca/clauf/skytrain.psd

The swoosh logo is very ugly. I took me forever to find a low quality one. If you can find one that is nice and crisp, I'll redo it.

mr.x · #**155** Posted **Jun 19, 2007, 11:08 PM**

^aha thx. i can't find a swoosh either. if you don't like it, get rid of the swoosh.

thx again.

twoNeurons · #**156** Posted **Jun 20, 2007, 3:25 PM**

you need to normalize the colors on the image. the ones on the right are too red while the one of the left is blueish.

The_Henry_Man · #**157** Posted **Jun 20, 2007, 4:18 PM**

Mr.x2, if you can, please do whatever you can and spread this website to as many concerned people as possible, and spread the news of this website to all politicians in the Lower Mainland. Ally with the "Coquitlam for Skytrain" Organization (I think this was the one that originally opposes LRT in the NES). I have every bit of confidence that this website will be the tool that contributes to the downfall of the LRT Evergreen Line and resurrect the Skytrain option.

Cheers!!

mr.x · #**158** Posted **Jun 20, 2007, 6:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by deasine

Here it is. Doesn't look very nice though, did it in 20 min. (including finding photos):
http://members.shaw.ca/clauf/skytrain.png

If you want to edit the PSD file:
http://members.shaw.ca/clauf/skytrain.psd

The swoosh logo is very ugly. I took me forever to find a low quality one. If you can find one that is nice and crisp, I'll redo it.

Deasine, your banner doesn't go well with the site. And the logo is in the way of the font.

thx for doing it though. =D

mr.x · #**159** Posted **Jun 20, 2007, 6:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by tintinium

you need to normalize the colors on the image. the ones on the right are too red while the one of the left is blueish.

haha, i agree. i'm not great in making banners, could you do one for me? make sure you have a picture of Lougheed Station.

deasine · #**160** Posted **Jun 21, 2007, 1:11 AM**

Haha you shouldn't expect anything from 20 minutes. XD Especially I'm no photoshop expert. If you want me to take of the swoosh (which I still cannot find one), I can do so right away. I will have a lot of time once I finish this guy's website. [I'm more html than photoshop]

Geez... the blending in the banner is soo ugly. You won't change your theme right? Now I know your theme, I might work on a banner based on the colours.

I have to admit, it looks ugly too. XD LMAO I AM DETERMINED TO DO ANOTHER ONE. Now that I'm off school and doing provincials =D