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Old Posted Jun 18, 2007, 3:43 AM
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Cool. Thanks, ivanwolf. That area's really booming. And man, am I the only one that hates that ugo house down the hill from Mount Bonnell. What a disgrace.
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2007, 6:01 AM
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I just noticed that The Monarch's website is now even more "condo" salesy than the last revision. It leaves little doubt that the building is now at least partially condo. Wonder why there has been no official announcement around this:

http://www.monarchaustin.com/

I'm personally hoping these will be priced cheaper than the other downtown projects.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2007, 1:00 PM
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And man, am I the only one that hates that ugo house down the hill from Mount Bonnell. What a disgrace.
No, you're not the only one. That big ugly roof completely ruins the view to downtown.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2007, 1:38 PM
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Yeah, good luck getting a good shot during the day when the sun is glaring off the metal roof. I haven't been back up in a while, but it is awful looking. Also, the wall facing the park area has one single small, and strange looking, window along the entire wall. I can't believe the city let that happen.
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Has anyone else noticed there has been no construction activity on the current floor of the Monarch over the past week?
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2007, 10:18 PM
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Has anyone else noticed there has been no construction activity on the current floor of the Monarch over the past week?
Arn't they already at lvl29 or so? If thats the case then they should be working on the mechanical lvl or the roof or something.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2007, 10:25 PM
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Arn't they already at lvl29 or so? If thats the case then they should be working on the mechanical lvl or the roof or something.
That's what I was thinking, too, they have to be near the top. I'm very curious to see the top, also. I can't figure it out from the renderings. My model awaits......
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2007, 11:38 PM
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Arn't they already at lvl29 or so? If thats the case then they should be working on the mechanical lvl or the roof or something.
I'm counting 26 with half of the rebars in place for the 27th. Nothing has changed since June 8.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2007, 2:52 AM
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The Monarch better watch out, it is about to be passed up by 360 (sooner than expected). Has anyone seen the Legacy site? Are they moving relatively fast or are they taking it slow? I would think that some of these residential buildings that are going to be competing with most others would want to get their building up in the quickest amount of time possible.
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Has anyone else noticed there has been no construction activity on the current floor of the Monarch over the past week?
When I was down there last week I asked a guy what floor they were on and he said that was the top floor..29 I think
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2007, 3:29 AM
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I havn't been by Legacy but I can see a small crawler crane the kind they use to put up the foundation pillars from I-35.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2007, 3:37 AM
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I was at a friends place tonight watching the new Rolling Stones dvd from the Bigger Bang Tour. The box set of 4 dvds has one whole dvd with the entire concert filmed here in Austin and it's the 1st dvd. I don't know if this is a marketing thing to help it sell better locally, but I could not find any other sets that weren't from 05 so it may be the only new edition. Anyway above is a very small clip from my silly cellphone that I posted on youtube back in October. It shows the very first part of the show, and alot of people screaming. I timed it perfectly considering it might be a whole 5 seconds. The show was the best concert I ever saw, much better than I expected. And it might have been one of the best for the tour hence it got on the new dvd in it's entirety. There are no other US city's on the whole dvd so I can't help wonder wtf are we the only city here that knows how to Rock! There are "about" 26,000 Stones videos on youtube, and some unlike mine are actually good.

If this is in the wrong thread someone let me know, I didn't think it needed it's own thread in the city compilation section.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2007, 5:17 AM
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^ No worries. I'm sorry I couldn't be at that one. I did however hear it just barely from our backyard, and I'm south of Ben White...
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Damn, ACL tickets are such a ripoff this year. $80 for a one day pass
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 21, 2007, 7:02 AM
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The Monarch heights from the blueprints

I sent an email to find out what the heights of The Monarch will be to certain points on the building. I also got some info about its design concept.

First, I learned a little bit about the design. The east and west sides of the tower at the top will have "butterfly wings" folding up from the mainroof. This is where the name "The Monarch" comes from. These will hide the mechanical penthouse which encloses the elevator motors.

The Monarch heights are:

323 feet to the top of the "wings". This is the official height of the building.
312 feet to the top of the mechanical penthouse.
300 feet to the mainroof.
287 feet to the highest occupied floor, (the 29th floor). That height is to the 2nd level of a 2-story unit on the 29th floor.

These heights came from RTKL Associates, Inc. which is the architect of the building. The heights came from the blueprints.

The renderings. Nothing new here, just posting for reference.
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Old Posted Jun 21, 2007, 10:01 AM
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From the Austin American-Statesman
http://www.statesman.com/business/content/business/stories/realestate/06/21/21marriott.html

HOTELS

Plans for Marriott complex revised
Two towers planned instead of three, developers say.

By Shonda Novak
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF


Thursday, June 21, 2007

White Lodging Services Corp. has changed its plans for the downtown Marriott hotel project that has stirred controversy because it will displace the popular Las Manitas Avenue Cafe and a bilingual day care center.

White Lodging, which would develop, own and operate the hotels under a long-term agreement with Marriott International, still plans a 1,000-room project, but the new plans have two towers instead of three.

New plans call for a 31-story tower along Brazos Street with 850 guest rooms and an 11-story hotel along Congress Avenue with 150 rooms.

The larger Marriott will be a convention center hotel, and the smaller one will be a J.W. Marriott, the chain's upscale brand. White Lodging hopes to break ground in early 2008 and open the hotels in 2010.

The project will require a zoning change because it will be larger than rules allow. Similar requests routinely have been approved for other buildings along Congress Avenue, said Richard Suttle Jr., White Lodging's Austin attorney. The change will need approval from the Planning Commission, with final say coming from the City Council.

Initial plans called for a 26-story Marriott conventioncenter hotel with 650 rooms; an 11-story upscale Renaissance Hotel with 200 rooms; and a 15-story Springhill Suites with 150 rooms.

The project's "longer-than-anticipated delays" led to a re-evaluation of what type of hotels were needed to complement the nearby Austin Convention Center, said Deno Yiankes, president and chief executive officer of White Lodging's investments and development division.

The project's price is now an estimated $250 million, up from early projections of $185 million. The increase is mainly due to the addition of more full-service Marriott hotel brands, the addition of 40,000 more square feet of meeting and retail space, and overall rising construction costs, Yiankes said.

Randy McCaslin, a vice president with PKF Consulting, which tracks the hotel market, said the new lineup, particularly the additional meeting space, is a smart change.

McCaslin said his recent Austin market study found heightened demand not only for more high-end hotel rooms in downtown, but also for more meeting space because of projected growth in group and convention business.

And with a big name like Marriott behind it, "you've got national marketing power that you'll bring to Austin," enabling the city to attract bigger conventions.

The city's Design Commission is scheduled to get its first look at the project Monday. The advisory commission reviews projects and makes recommendations to other commissions and to the City Council, when requested.

The complex will include more than 85,000 square feet of meeting, retail and restaurant space, plus three levels of underground parking.

Plans are subject to change as the developer gets comments from various city boards, commissions and staff members, Suttle said.

White Lodging's development is one of seven hotel projects planned for downtown Austin that will add more than 2,000 rooms.

Other than gaming- and resort-driven projects in markets such as Las Vegas and Orlando, Fla., Yiankes said White Lodging is not aware of a similar convention hotel being built without significant incentives.

"This fact, along with the . . . additional developments completed and under way in the greater market, speaks volumes" about the company's bullishness on Austin, he said.

He said the project will position Austin "to compete more effectively on a regional and national basis for high-profile conventions."

The hotel is expected to add $7 million a year in tax revenue for the city.

This month, the City Council approved a $750,000 forgivable loan to help Las Manitas owners Lidia and Cynthia Perez move to another building they own on the same block as the planned Marriotts.

Council Member Brewster McCracken has said he voted for the loan to settle an impasse between White Lodging and the Perezes over access rights to an alley needed for the Marriott project. But Lee Leffingwell voted against the loan, saying he wasn't convinced that Marriott needed the Perezes' permission to build on part of the alley.

Suttle said White Lodging will seek approval from the City Council to close the alley to allow for ground-floor retail and restaurant space and meeting space above.
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I sent an email to find out what the heights of The Monarch will be to certain points on the building. I also got some info about its design concept.

First, I learned a little bit about the design. The east and west sides of the tower at the top will have "butterfly wings" folding up from the mainroof. This is where the name "The Monarch" comes from. These will hide the mechanical penthouse which encloses the elevator motors.

The Monarch heights are:

323 feet to the top of the "wings". This is the official height of the building.
312 feet to the top of the mechanical penthouse.
300 feet to the mainroof.
287 feet to the highest occupied floor, (the 29th floor). That height is to the 2nd level of a 2-story unit on the 29th floor.

These heights came from RTKL Associates, Inc. which is the architect of the building. The heights came from the blueprints.

The renderings. Nothing new here, just posting for reference.
Sounds like we will see about 50 more feet in height to be added while topping out after the addition of the wings. That is if they have indeed finished the 29th floor, which I would say is true. Those renderings don't give a great view of the what is going on up top but it does look interesting.
     
     
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Kevin,

I have a small request. When you update the main thread with the building heights or the rendering thread, would it be possible for you to note what building has changed on there?

Thanks!
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 21, 2007, 5:30 PM
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I've changed my Monarch model to have the tilted "wings" now. This is simplified and untextured, but I think it's getting close. That's a mockup of the Austin City Lofts behind it.



And from the other side:




I've started making untextured "mockups" for the other big buildings downtown, to get a better overall picture, just because the texturing takes so long to do. I'll add textures to them as time permits. In this photo you can see mockups for 360, the CSC buildings, AMLI II, the W Hotel, the Plaza, 816 Congress, 501 Congress, the Radisson, 21c (partly textured), and the 4 Seasons.

The 360 model I downloaded from Google a while back, but I've made some changes to it based on the many photos posted here. And the W Hotel model I've updated to match more closely the latest renders.





     
     
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Great job, priller! That's looking really good.

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Kevin,

I have a small request. When you update the main thread with the building heights or the rendering thread, would it be possible for you to note what building has changed on there?

Thanks!
Sure. Yeah, I guess I should be doing that.
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