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Old Posted May 20, 2007, 2:24 PM
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Nope, I haven't been there yet. But I hear the same things about Eastside Grille, too. The live music on the outside deck always sounds good when ever I ride by.
Eastside Grille is down right amazing. For lunch there is meat & 3 veggies and at night I hear there is some nice dining & live music like you mentioned. I had my first drink from Cool Beans Downtown on Friday, that place on the inside is so upscale.... really took me by suprise, and my $5 drink was fantastic.. haha
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Old Posted May 20, 2007, 2:34 PM
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Downtown Lunch Trolley a ringing success so far


The Downtown Lunch Trolley passes a stop on Montgomery Street. The trolley runs weekdays from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. ferrying people to and from downtown restaurant areas.


There may be no free lunch, but if you are eating that lunch downtown, there will continue to be a free ride to it.

Montgomery's lunch trolley experiment seems to be a success.

A few weeks ago, Montgomery Mayor Bobby Bright said the trolley was an attempt to help downtown restaurants, but as with every other city project, he said if it turned out people weren't using it, he would have no problem pulling the plug.

But people are using it, more people each week. This week, its fourth, the lunch trolleys were averaging more than 100 riders a day.

Many riders say they are trying new restaurants because of the service. City leaders say they are pleased enough with the trolley project that they are not considering any cuts to the system, which has two of the city's three trolleys running the lunch loop.

Montgomery launched the lunch trolley April 24, the same day it opened a traffic circle in Court Square.

Another change has also helped the downtown restaurants. On the same day the city opened the traffic circle and started the lunch trolleys, it also kicked off a free wireless Internet service within a block of the square.

Laptop computers are becoming commonplace on benches around Court Square, and restaurant owners said the lunch trolleys, the traffic through the square and the free WiFi are all helping.

Larry "Boomer" Strichik, who runs Boomer T's Bar-B-Q, half a block from Court Square, said business is up so heavily that he plans a move to a larger location on Dexter Avenue. His restaurant had been stuck at a dead-end during construction on Court Square.

"Business has picked up about 25 or 30 percent," he said. "The trolley is some help, but the circle being open is the biggest thing."

Strichik said his business, which has seating for about 20, will move a couple of blocks to a building with indoor seating for 60 and a small outdoor dining area.

"They just did a great job," he said of the rebuilt Court Square.

Away from the center of downtown, at Martha's Place on Sayre Street, the trolley is making more of a difference.

Owner Martha Hawkins reported an almost immediate increase is business when the trolley started.

Martha's is one of those tucked-away kind of places that previously required a car to reach. Now the trolley has a marked stop just a few steps from the front door.

Michael McDermott, who drove one of the lunch trolleys Wednesday, handed riders a trolley map, which has restaurant locations marked. He said riders often notice a place they haven't visited before and stop for a meal.

Becky Quakenbush boarded a lunch trolley Wednesday for a late lunch. She was with Chasity Vickers, and both said it was their first trip on the trolley.

The pair was headed for Lek's Railroad Thai, but looked over the map for places to visit in the future.

"There are places I would find out about, but I wouldn't know how to get there or where to park," she said.

Roy Trolinger, who works in the Department of Human Resources in the cluster of state office buildings, is a trolley regular. He rides an average of twice weekly, usually to one of his favored restaurants within a block or so of Court Square.

"It is a great new way to get to lunch and back in an hour," he said.

Trolinger generally has to park several blocks from his office, which makes the trolley even more attractive.

"It almost takes me longer to get in my car than it does to get to lunch (on the trolley)," he said.

Trolinger said he talks to fellow employees regularly about riding the trolley. Many of his co-workers brown-bag lunch or eat in a state cafeteria.

He said he prefers to get out of the office and perhaps meet his wife, who works in the Colonial Center near Court Square, for lunch.

Increased ridership is obvious, he said, and predicted it will continue to pick up.

"The first week, it was kind of sparse," he said. "By the third week it really picked up."

Jeff Downes, executive assistant to Montgomery Mayor Bobby Bright, said the city has noted the trolley's growing ridership.

"We are pleased with where it is now," he said. "We have installed all of the signs and the Web site is up and running."

Downes said most of the feedback that the city has received has been positive, with a few suggestions for minor route changes.

He said growth has been steady, but Trolinger predicted it will spike soon.

"As the weather heats up, it is going to pick up in this nice air conditioning," he said.

McDermott attempted to drum up extra riders by giving most patrons a handful of brochures and asking the riders to distribute the literature.

He said a common boost in ridership comes from work groups going out to eat together. According to the driver, it is not uncommon for a trolley to make a complete loop with no more than a rider or two, then on the next loop to pick up a dozen or more riders going together to the same eatery.
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Old Posted May 20, 2007, 2:36 PM
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Best Buy, Belk to anchor new Prattville shopping center

By Marty Roney

PRATTVILLE -- Retail options continue to grow in this bedroom community with signs pointing to Best Buy and Belk now committed as anchors at High Point Town Center.

The 900,000-square-foot development is being built on Cobbs Ford Road near the I-65 intersection. A sign went up Friday evening in front of the property naming the anchor stores. Bass Pro Shops Outdoor World and J.C. Penney previously have been announced as anchors. Bass Pro will open Aug. 16. Construction on the other anchor sites hasn't begun.

Across Cobbs Ford Road, work continues on Prattville Town Center, a 400,000-square-foot development with Home Depot and Target as anchors. Home Depot announced plans to open June 24, with Target going online by the end of July.

Shoppers reacted Saturday with glee.

"Let's see, we have Lowe's and Home Depot across the street from each other, and now we have Best Buy and Circuit City setting up shop across the street from each other," said Bill Giles of Prattville. "Isn't competition a wonderful thing? You have to love capitalism."

Officials with McClinton & Co. and AIG Baker, the developers of High Point, could not be reached for comment Saturday. McClinton's Web site lists Bass Pro and "three fashion department stores," as anchors. The site does not name the retailers.

"You have Penney's and Belk coming. My guess for the third store is Dillards," said Fran Weaver of Autauga County. "I've heard Kohl's is coming too, but I want Dillards. When these stores get open, I think you will see a lot of Montgomery people come up here."

Mayor Jim Byard was as surprised as anyone late Friday when news about Best Buy began spreading through town.

"Usually I don't comment on economic development, but I can honestly say I don't know anything about Best Buy," Byard said. "They were out there early on as a possible anchor, but I have heard nothing about them in the past several months. All I can say is the news just keeps getting better and better in Prattville. There are some other announcements coming, nationally-known stores and restaurants that should be pleasing to a lot of people."

Political and economic development officials in town had just about written off Best Buy when news broke that Prattville Town Center had landed Circuit City.

High Point announced early last year that Parisian would be one of four planned anchor stores, but that was before Saks sold the brand to Belk. It is expected Belk will build a free-standing store, encompassing 180,000 square feet, at High Point.

Belk has a smaller store in the city located at Premiere Place Shopping Center, another McClinton development.

Other stores that have announced plans to join the two new shopping centers include, Books-A-Million, Ross Dress For Less, PetSmart, Bed, Bath and Beyond and Steinmart.

Olive Garden is expected to announce soon that it will build a restaurant at Prattville Town Center.
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Old Posted May 21, 2007, 1:36 PM
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Employees get Hooters how-to lessons

By Paul W. Sullivan


Common it's not. Controversial? Maybe. Regardless, one thing is certain -- Montgomery will get to experience a meal at a Hooters Restaurant this week.

There have been several attempts to bring the popular eatery with its All-American menu and Hooters Girls here since 2002, when a group of Georgia investors signed a lease to open a location at 2107 East Blvd.

That attempt, along with several others, failed. But Hooters district manager John Wilson says the wait is over. The restaurant will open to the public at 5 p.m. Wednesday, following a Tuesday VIP preview.

How long people have been waiting for the restaurant to open hasn't been lost on him or the restaurant staff.

Wilson said during employee training, about 25 cars an hour visited the new restaurant location in the Twin Oaks Shopping Center at the corner of East Boulevard and Vaughn Road to ask if they've opened yet.

He said he expects that enthusiasm to continue long after the restaurant serves its first basket of buffalo wings.

"We are the cure for the common restaurant," Wilson said. "We will put a smile on your face."

The casual beach-themed restaurants feature "oldies" music, sports and a menu that includes seafood, sandwiches, salads and spicy chicken wings. According to information on the company Web site, Hooters generates 72 percent of its sales from food, 5 percent from merchandise and 23 percent from beer and wine. Most Hooters locations do not serve liquor.

The Montgomery restaurant is in a building that has been home to several establishments over the past 20 years, but customers may not recognize the inside, which has undergone an extreme makeover.

The revamping, plus a new patio and deck, will allow seating of up to 300 people. The bar has been relocated to the center of the restaurant. The deck can seat about 50 people and the patio 25, Wilson said.

Inside, customers can be seated in dining rooms on either floor. A meeting room will be located upstairs, along with pool tables and games. The restaurant also will feature 22 televisions.

The staff will include 31 cooks and eight hostesses.

Still, Wilson knows that it won't be the menu or the revamped interior that will be the big draw, but the image for which the restaurant is best known -- Hooters Girls.

Wilson has been busy training the 64 girls who were chosen from about 350 applicants. He never refers to the Hooter Girls as waitresses, and there is a reason. He said their primary job is to interact with customers and be ready at all times to look like the All-American girl "in the mold of a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader."

In fact, 10 guys will be on staff to do most of the work waitresses would usually do. Hooter Girls will serve food and spend time singing, dancing or hula-hooping, Wilson said.

"We don't allow Hooters Girls to pick up trash cans and clean tables," Wilson said. "She's got to look like she's ready for a photo shoot at all times. I tell everyone this is a movie we are putting on and the stage is Hooters. We have assistants, but the stars are the Hooters Girls."

While Wilson admits the restaurant concept has been successful catering to males between the ages of 18 and 45, the company has generated increasing support from families with offers such as children eat free on Sundays.

Hooters of America Inc. is the Atlanta-based operator and franchiser of more than 435 Hooters locations in 46 states and more than a dozen countries. The privately held corporation owns 120 units.
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Old Posted May 21, 2007, 2:57 PM
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Brown Duckz: I'm just saying that Montgomery isn't losing anything TO Prattville, Prattville is just growing and developing on it's own. Bass Pro Shops is an exception because ...

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What about the RTJ Golf Trail's Capitol Hill?

Thanks, Emory!
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Old Posted May 21, 2007, 6:41 PM
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Brown Duckz: I'm just saying that Montgomery isn't losing anything TO Prattville, Prattville is just growing and developing on it's own. Bass Pro Shops is an exception because ...

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What about the RTJ Golf Trail's Capitol Hill?

Thanks, Emory!
At what point in time was there a heated battle between Montgomery & Prattville as a location for Capitol Hill? Never. The site was always Prattville because of the terrain, available land, proximity to Downtown Montgomery, and the Montgomery Regional Airport. Montgomery is the reason that establishment was made possible and thrives. Most, if not all of the courses are outlying areas of the city or suburban settings. Want to give the debate another shot OldCloverdale? With that kind of user name I'm suprised to see you bashing Montgomery. You would fit in real nice over at al.com forums.
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At what point in time was there a heated battle between Montgomery & Prattville as a location for Capitol Hill? Never. The site was always Prattville because of the terrain, available land, proximity to Downtown Montgomery, and the Montgomery Regional Airport. Montgomery is the reason that establishment was made possible and thrives. Most, if not all of the courses are outlying areas of the city or suburban settings. Want to give the debate another shot OldCloverdale? With that kind of user name I'm suprised to see you bashing Montgomery. You would fit in real nice over at al.com forums.
Enough with the AL.com bashing. I happen to enjoy that forum just as much as you enjoy this forum. It helps to get different perspectives and gain from both as I do.
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Old Posted May 21, 2007, 6:53 PM
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Enough with the AL.com bashing. I happen to enjoy that forum just as much as you enjoy this forum. It helps to get different perspectives and gain from both as I do.
Different perspectives are nice, but having to sift through all the garbage and close-minded opinions would give me a headache.
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Different perspectives are nice, but having to sift through all the garbage and close-minded opinions would give me a headache.
And words like "Garbage and Closed-Minded opinions" don't speak too favorably toward you either. There are those that want to see Montgomery improve, just like you do. And they simply worry that the current direction of the city is one without a strong element of justice and law enforcement. We all want the same thing for the capital city of this great state. We also all want honest reporting and facts instead of issues sweeped under the rug in the name of maintaining good perception and that's all I'll say in a non-PM'd state. We all want Montgomery to succeed, that's the vision that we all share.
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no, he's right. The AL.com forums are crap. Full of racists and haters.
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OldCloverdale... With that kind of user name I'm suprised to see you bashing Montgomery.

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not bashing my hometown... just emory folmar

there are RTJ facilities in Mobile and Birmingham (2) but not Montgomery.
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FWIW, Ross Bridge is in Hoover, and the other two sites are on the fringes of the city limits.
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Oxmoor Valley is in Birmingham
Ross Bridge/Hoover = Jefferson County
Capitol Hill/Prattville not in Montgomery County

I actually wouldn't mind too much if Capitol Hill were located out in Pike Road/down around Hope Hull/ etc - but being in Prattville is such a shame for Montgomery, IMO
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whatever.
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no, he's right. The AL.com forums are crap. Full of racists and haters.
There are no blatant racists on the AL.com forums. The worst of them was KennesawKlaw and she's dead now. She was always blaming Montgomery's crime on young black men, the gangsta culture, and unwed moms collecting welfare. I called her out, and so did several others on AL.com. As for the "haters", they don't hate Montgomery. They just want a balance between pro-growth and control on crime. The Westside Golf Course is something that divided ppl because simple demographics show that those that live in the immediate vicinity of the golf course don't fit that of warranting a municipal golf course. It's not "hating" to want to speak up and voice that the poor blacks of West Montgomery can rise up and better themselves to be as good as the more affluent whites of Midtown and East Montgomery.

And unless you can show me specific examples from the AL.com forums today from specific members that would constitute racism and hating, then you don't have a leg to stand on anymore. Like I said, the Klaw is dead and she was the worst of anyone by miles.
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there are RTJ facilities in Mobile and Birmingham (2) but not Montgomery.
I think you are still missing the point I was trying to make. Montgomery didn't lose the opportunity to have the Capitol Hill course, they picked a certain place with available land, adjacent to resources, and within close proximity of an urban center. The courses that are within the Birmingham & Mobile city limits are on the far edge of the city. Parts of Capitol Hill's trail comes close to Montgomery County & City lines. Montgomery has plenty of golfing available, and even though Capitol Hill is definitely an elitest site and is not within Montgomery's city limits, that's good for Prattville, not bad Montgomery. You can stay pissed about Emory Folmar as long as you want, but he's out of office and we [Montgomery] are headed in a different direction, so you can either jump along, or stay put on your soapbox.
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Neilson, we should just let it go, because it's basically already turned into a debate, and for people with very different views on the matter, I'd say we should just stop now and continue with development post.
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Neilson, we should just let it go, because it's basically already turned into a debate, and for people with very different views on the matter, I'd say we should just stop now and continue with development post.
Fine, but I want you to PM me privately about this and we'll talk about it. Anyone else that wants to talk privately, I'm all ears and would enjoy that very much.

Back to development, so Hooters opens on Wednesday right?
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Yes finally, the day after my 21st birthday.
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There are no blatant racists on the AL.com forums.... The Westside Golf Course is something that divided ppl because simple demographics show that those that live in the immediate vicinity of the golf course don't fit that of warranting a municipal golf course.

And unless you can show me specific examples from the AL.com forums today from specific members that would constitute racism and hating, then you don't have a leg to stand on anymore.

You don't have to go to AL.com, looks like you just gave an example with your own statement.


I'm sorry, but I just couldn't let that slide...
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