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Old Posted May 17, 2007, 4:09 AM
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Just my humble opinion.


Thanks for posting something that goes beyond the far too common, & very brief, "who, what, where & why" type of comments.

However, I have to say I'm dissapointed & puzzled about psf construction costs in LA causing highrise devlpt to be difficult to pencil out compared with what goes on in other cities where big bldgs seem to be a dime a dozen, such as all the condo/apt towers in Chicago, NYC, toronto, or the major cities of Asia or south America. Or even smaller towns like vancouver.

I saw a set of pics of Sao Paolo, posted in a SSP forum several months ago, & the number of skyscrapers there made LA look like podunk.

I like to think highrise projs in LA would pencil out if devlprs weren't so $$$ hungry, basing that on the big mark up that ppl have applied to houses they'll buy, fix up & then sell, on the "Flip that house" TV show. But is it fair to assume that devlprs are bailing out or dragging their feet because they're too greedy when someone like Astani goes through all the hassle of breaking ground on the Concerto proj only to stop in midstream?

And I can't forget that it was only around 6 or 7 yrs ago that almost NOTHING was being built in DT because devlprs said they couldn't get a high enough return on any new condo or apt proj they'd sponsor.

I know at least one or two highrise apt bldgs directly south of Disney Hall were part of an entitlement process that a devlpr got approval for back in the early 1990s. However, he was able to construct only one of 3 towers, and that was it. Now here it is 2007 & those sites still are parking lots. Only the new Grand Ave proj may bring them back to life. But even the Related Cos isn't talking about doing anything with those properties til several yrs into the future.
     
     
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Updated the front page:

1) Added Glo on Wilshire to Under Construction
2) Added Vero to Recently Completed
3) Fixed 1110 Ingraham

If anyone has a more recent shot of Vero or Glo on Wilshire, post it here and I'll update the first post.
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Interesting story . . . Candy & Candy just purchased an unentitled development site for about 250 ultra-high end condos behind the Beverly Wilshire Hotel. They paid about $2m per door for land acquisition - which is unheard of in southern California. Candy & Candy believes that the
[SIZE=4][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=2]Über Rich will pay upwards of $8,000 per square foot to live in Beverly Hills.

You mean the "The Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel" right? You're not referring to the sale of the old Robinsons-May department store to C&C by the Beverly Hilton are you?
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You mean the "The Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel" right? You're not referring to the sale of the old Robinsons-May department store to C&C by the Beverly Hilton are you?
I assume it is this, please correct me if I am wrong.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2763141&postcount=261

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=2764412&postcount=267
     
     
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Not new, but bigger renders of the 12th and Grand Towers:


(Photo credit: http://www.keatingkhang.com)


(Photo credit: http://www.keatingkhang.com)


One new rendering of the Maguire Office Tower (at least I haven't seen this first rendering):


(Photo credit: http://www.keatingkhang.com)


(Photo credit: http://www.keatingkhang.com)


(Photo credit: http://www.keatingkhang.com)
     
     
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I hope those 12th & Grand towers get built
     
     
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LAMG, once again you are the man. I'll add the larger render of the 12th & Grand Towers to the first page.
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This duplicates everything else already reported about Parkfifth. Only thing that stood out to me was the quote from the proj manager. If he truly knows what he's talking about....


$1B Project to Be Downtown L.A.'s First Luxury Residential Skyscraper

May 17, 2007
By Barbra Murray, Contributing Editor
Commercial Property News

Plans have been announced for Park Fifth, a high-rise residential and hotel complex in Downtown Los Angeles. Africa Israel and Namco Capital Group are serving as the capital partners for the $1 billion project, which is being developed by Houk Development Co.

Park Fifth, which will claim the title as the tallest residential property west of Chicago and the tallest luxury residential building downtown, will alter the city's skyline with a 76-story skyscraper and a 43-story structure; the U.S. Bank Tower is actually the tallest office structure in the city, and the tallest on the West Coast. Located at Fifth and Olive streets overlooking Pershing Square, the property will feature 732 condominiums in the two towers, as well as an approximately 220-room five-star hotel segment occupying 14 stories in the shorter structure.

The architectural firm of Kohn Pedersen Fox, along with Leo A. Daly, is behind the design of the complex, which will feature a 15-story bridge linking the two buildings. The property will also feature a public plaza with café, a health spa, two fitness centers, two theater viewing rooms and a classroom available to residents for various seminars. Groundbreaking on the project is on target to take place during the first quarter of next year.

Downtown Los Angeles has been undergoing a rebirth over the last several years, with a bevy of mixed-use projects and residential developments coming to life. With regard to condominiums, however, a small shift appears to be on the horizon. According to Marcus & Millichap Real Estate Investment Brokerage Co., many developers are turning some of their attention to rentals given the bevy of projects in the pipeline; 960 units delivered during the first quarter, three times the amount of units that reached completion in all of 2006.

On the other hand, the Park Fifth project appears to fill a certain niche where product is not overflowing. "All the market analysis indicates that in the segment that we're working in--high-end luxury--there is sufficient demand in Downtown L.A.," Rich Marr, Park Fifth project manager, told CPN today.

Downtown is fast becoming defined by the 4 million-square-foot L.A. Live mixed-used entertainment district by AEG that is currently underway. Other large-scale projects with residential components in the area include the Moinian Group's proposed $700 million mixed-use property, which will include a mix of residential formats, including condos; and the $750 million The Residences at The Ritz-Carlton, which will be accompanied by The Ritz-Carlton and Los Angeles Marriott Marquis hotels

Based in Los Angeles, Houk has been a force behind many high-profile developments in Los Angeles over the last three decades; the company also owns and manages properties. Israel-based Africa Israel, which maintains its U.S. headquarters in New York, is an international development company that is currently orchestrating several projects from Manhattan to Las Vegas. Brentwood, Calif.-based Namco Capital owns and manages approximately 10 million square feet of residential and commercial properties across the U.S.
     
     
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One new rendering of the Maguire Office Tower (at least I haven't seen this first rendering)
Always fun imagining what may or could (or hopefully WILL) happen in X number of yrs. But I've got to say I don't ever wanna be the horse that's got on its forehead a stick with a carrot hanging at the end of it. that's why I wanna see heavy equipment & work crews before I can paaarrrty. Even more so since a proj can actually get to that point of devlpt, only to have someone like Astani then come along & end up jerking everyone around.
     
     
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Updated the front page:

1) Added Glo on Wilshire to Under Construction
2) Added Vero to Recently Completed
3) Fixed 1110 Ingraham

If anyone has a more recent shot of Vero or Glo on Wilshire, post it here and I'll update the first post.
Photos taken today:

Glo on Wilshire


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^^ Vero doesn't look quite as bad once completed. It should have been 10 flights minimum....
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Thanks, Joe! I added those photos to the front page (did a little resizing and color tweaking - hope you don't mind), as well as the new 12 & Grand render.
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^Thanks for doing that, Cole. Looks good. Ferney, Vero will even look better once the red architectural detail in front the lobby is finished and the retail spaces open. Progress is slow on all fronts.
     
     
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I heard previously that the renderings we have for Murelo's towers at 12th & Grand are dated. When I went to Murelo's website, he says that they are being designed by Funes Architecture rather than the Keating one we know of; but with that being said, I do not know how recent Murelo's page is since he still has 9th & Flower listed as in the planning stages and going to break ground in 2006.

I love the Keating renderings we have and would love to see them built, but I wonder if [if there is in fact a new design] it is better looking and just as dense
     
     
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But those renderings are both on the Keating website
     
     
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But those renderings are both on the Keating website
Exactly, and Murelo says that Funes is designing the towers now... A bit confusing

By the way, its in the news on Curbed that Medallion starts construction next month. Do we have title page renderings of this project? If not I have the link to the architects website

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Hola, Medallion. Construction on this mixed-use rental development--which'll take up the entire block of 3rd and 4th Sts between Main--starts next month, according to M2 Architects. The first phase will add 91 residential units and almost 90,000 square feet of retail space; when completed, the project will consist of 192 residential lofts, 203,000 square feet of retail space, and parking for 700 cars. Also: Elegant-looking men will stand outside the Medallion and talk about important things.
· Medallion [M2 Architects] http://www.m2a-architects.com/portfolio/multifamily/medallion.html
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I realized looking at the renderings that they shortened the buildings just enough so they can build them out of wood rather than the original 11 floors which; by code, would require a more expensive concrete frame. Oh well, hopefully they insulate well to keep noise from traveling. I am thankful that the ugly parking lot next to petes will disappear and add a whopping 90,000 square feet of retail to the area.

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700 parking spots??????????????? Whoa...that's too much! Let's encourage everybody to drive their cars from South Park and not take DASH, buses, or taxis. Creating a true urban experience, eh downtown?
     
     
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I do not know how recent Murelo's page is since he still has 9th & Flower listed as in the planning stages and going to break ground in 2006.
If you click on the project, you'll discover that it's labeled "Under Construction."
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From Los Angeles Downtown News:

Richard Meruelo's Water World

The Connected Developer Moves Forward on His $120 Million South Park Condo Tower

by Evan George


Richard Meruelo has begun construction on his 36-story condominium tower. He plans to build at least three more high-rises in the area, breaking ground on a new one every six months. Photo by Gary Leonard.

A 36-story residential skyscraper is growing quickly at 717 W. Ninth St., eclipsing other South Park projects that remain just holes in the ground.

Developer Meruelo Maddux Properties prepared the foundation last week, and a crane began stacking a steel base for the green glass building that architects say will shimmer in three shades, from emerald to sea foam. The intent is to imitate a waterfall.

When it's built, the condominium tower will be the tallest residential project in Downtown Los Angeles and the first in a wave of housing high-rises planned for South Park. But perhaps only Richard Meruelo, who remains the largest landholder in Downtown, could call a $120 million investment "an experiment."

"In our office 717 Ninth was considered a petri dish where we were going to test out a bunch of stuff," Meruelo said. At least three taller South Park structures will follow, he said.

The unusual building is Meruelo Maddux's first foray into new residential construction in Los Angeles (the company is nearing completion on a $17 million apartment conversion of a former bank building in the Jewelry District). The site at Ninth and Flower streets sits three long blocks from the Financial District skyline. Expected to open in mid-2009, it's a would-be early giant in the move toward higher density around Staples Center and the future L.A. Live complex.

The project's sudden lurch forward, after two years of planning, also comes as Meruelo Maddux is embroiled in legal problems stemming from two incidents.

In March, City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo filed charges against Meruelo for myriad alleged health code violations at the Seventh Street Market, a wholesale produce center the company owns and operates. In April, the city attorney filed 16 criminal charges against Meruelo Maddux related to the firm's allegedly improper demolition of several Downtown buildings in 2005.

Meruelo said the charges would not affect the plans for 717 Ninth, or require any extra precautions.

"Frankly, I don't think there's been any of what I call 'cross-contamination' of any of those other issues with 717. I think we've had unanimous support from elected officials," he said.

'First Domino'

When Meruelo's mother Belinda bought a small dress shop at 323 S. Broadway in 1972, she planted the seed for what would become a politically influential company that now controls more than 5.2 million square feet and 54 properties in and around Downtown. As Richard Meruelo has amassed holdings in Los Angeles and Miami, he has also become a prominent donor, and drew attention when he gave $193,000 in independent expenditures to Antonio Villaraigosa's 2005 mayoral run.

Traditionally, Meruelo's Downtown properties have been industrial sites and wholesale markets, as well as a number of cold storage facilities and vacant lots.

Meruelo, more often referred to in the press as a landowner than a developer, has not been known for building high-rise projects. He said that is about to change.

When Mereulo purchased the site at 717 W. Ninth St. more than two years ago from the CIM Group, it continued to operate as a parking lot, even as other South Park projects began sprouting around it. Directly across the street sits the nearly completed Market Lofts, which will hold the incoming Ralphs supermarket. On the other side of Ninth Street, developer Sonny Astani has been preparing the Concerto tower. Developer South Group has steamed ahead on three mid-rise condo buildings, the Elleven, Luma and Evo.

"It's kind of strange, you'd think they would have moved ahead more rapidly," said Jack Kyser, senior vice president and chief economist of the Los Angeles Economic Development Corporation. "But maybe delaying it will prove to be a strategic move. It will probably come on the market at a favorable time, when the housing market overall has stabilized."

Meruelo insists it is perfect timing.

"Residential in Downtown is still in the first or second inning of that game," he said. "We didn't want to be a pioneer on a nearly 40-story building."

Having seen smaller projects succeed in South Park, the company has acquired a number of other parcels. Meruelo Maddux said a succession of high-rise buildings will break ground, with a new one every six months.

Still in the planning stage are three nearby towers at 11th and Olive streets, including an unnamed 62-story skyscraper, according to a Meruelo spokesman.

"This is the first domino in a long domino chain," Meruelo said.

Making Waves

In daylight, 717 Ninth will glitter in shades of green. It will turn black opal at night, much like a large body of water.

The slim tower will hold 214 one- and two-bedroom units - just eight on each floor - with four rooftop penthouses capping the 267,339-square-foot structure. Five levels of parking will be enrobed in steel netting and a light installation. Prices for the condominiums have not yet been announced, though other new South Park high-rises have residences beginning in the $400,000s.

The green glass curtain drawn up by Meruelo's in-house architects, Mambo Architecture, will involve three kinds of panels. The watery illusion will continue on the seventh floor pool deck, with a garden of kelp-like ice plants around an infinity pool. The pool's water will flow into a glass-encased installation that falls to the 16,800-square-foot ground-floor retail space, where Meruelo hopes to lure a high-end seafood eatery.

"It's difficult to design a building around a metaphor, because you're always going to run into something that could possibly change the concept," said Mark Moreno, the project manager.

One element that Moreno and the lead architect, Manuel Funes, seized on immediately was a curved spine that runs the height of the building. The design is a conscious attempt to alter the South Park side of Downtown's skyline, both said.

"We have taken a design philosophy to build towers, and every building we're doing is a tower. We believe it contributes more to the skyline," Funes said.

The design team had intended to go higher, in fact, Funes said, but when the company purchased the land, height limits were in place.

"There was a decision to move this forward very fast so going to amend those entitlements would have taken too long," he said.

As is, 717 Ninth would be Downtown's tallest pure residential tower, surpassing 1100 Wilshire (where the 37 stories contain 17 levels of parking) and 717 Olympic, Hanover Company's under-construction 26-story apartment complex at Olympic Boulevard and Figueroa Street. But it may hold that title for less than a year.

As Funes points out, "The Chrysler building was the tallest building in the world. For two weeks."

Contact Evan George at [email protected].

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Flush Forward

Downtown's Second $250,000 Toilet Finally Opens

by Kathleen Nye Flynn


Although it was installed last November, the quarter-million dollar self-cleaning toilet at Fifth and Hill streets only started working last week. The slow process had ignited nationwide media coverage. Photo by Gary Leonard.

Downtown's second quarter-million dollar public toilet is finally ready for business. After months of delay, and national media attention, the green-shelled facility at Fifth and Hill streets near Pershing Square was scheduled to have its first official flush last Thursday (when Downtown News went to press).

However, it is only one in a series of toilets that Downtowners have been awaiting. Three others, which also cost $250,000 apiece and would serve Skid Row residents, are expected to follow in the coming months.

The so-called automatic public toilets, or APTs, are self-cleaning, self-monitoring devices that require 24-hour on-call maintenance. They have long been seen by neighborhood advocates as a way to prevent people from relieving themselves in public.

Ever since the Pershing Square APT was installed last November, area residents have become increasingly frustrated over the time it has taken the city to open it. The flurry of coverage - Los Angeles Downtown News wrote about it last December, blogdowntown.com has chronicled it for months, and the Los Angeles Times and Boston Globe recently covered it - appears to have finally spurred action.

"After the articles came out, it was like everything broke through - the work got done," said Francois Nion, co-managing director of CBS/JCDecaux, a joint venture company that installs and maintains the toilets.

Last week, the power was hooked up and CBS/JCDecaux spent a few days testing the facility, which will cost 25 cents a flush. An official with CBS/JCDecaux said that the facility would open on Thursday, May 17.

Year of the Toilets

In December, Nion said the toilet would open by February. He blamed the nearly three-month delay on city departments that he said were slow to hook up the electricity, telephone connections and water to the facility.

"Every city has different processes that we have to adapt to and follow," Nion said. "But in L.A., this process is lengthy so even if everything goes well and there is no road block, it will take a long time anyway."

One APT is already open outside San Julian Park. Unlike regular Porta-Potties, the machine discourages mistreatment with a door that automatically opens after 20 minutes, as well as devices that signal on-call personnel if something breaks.

The Pershing Square APT, a welcome relief for Down-town residents, workers and visitors in search of a clean public restroom, is only one of several such facilities.

Four more APTs are set to open in Downtown, Nion said. The facilities, one at Fourth and Hill streets, which might open in several months, and three others in the Skid Row area, are already placed on the sidewalk and waiting to be connected. The Skid Row toilets would be free to use.

Nion said that he understands why some residents have grown frustrated with the protracted process.

"Once the unit is installed, from an outside standpoint it looks like it's able to be used, so people wonder why isn't it working?" Nion said. "People understand waiting a couple of months but beyond that is difficult to explain."

Problems With the Program

In December 2001, the city contracted with CBS/JCDecaux to install and maintain sidewalk furniture such as bus shelters, newspaper racks and information kiosks. In exchange, the company keeps the profits garnered from the advertising posted on the furniture and pays the city either a yearly stipend or 20% of the advertising revenue.

But the deal has not gone as planned. CBS/JCDecaux has met resistance in some communities where residents and business owners said the street furniture causes blight. If the projects are finally approved, the plans get trapped in the queue of various city departments, said Lance Oishi, the Board of Pubic Works contract manager for the project.

Only 400 pieces of street furniture have been installed through the contract, far less than the 2,500 pieces the city had anticipated.

A report by the city's Chief Legislative Analyst found that the city has earned only half the revenue it could have received from the program. If it lived up to its potential, the contract could have produced $32 million to be split between the city's general fund and the 15 council districts.

The CLA also pointed a finger at the Los Angeles County Tax Assessor for charging CBS/JCDecaux a type of property owner's fee, even though the street furniture is technically owned by the city.

Currently, the city is re-examining its contract with CBS/JCDecaux and may make it mandatory for council districts to accept at least 75% of the company's proposals for street furniture placement. However, the new contract would do little to speed the process of getting the APTs up and running.

"That's a matter of trying to work with [the departments] and move our items up the priority list with them," said Oishi.

Contact Kathleen Nye Flynn at [email protected].

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