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Old Posted May 5, 2007, 9:06 PM
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http://www.nearwestgazette.com/Archive/0507/Newsstory0507f.htm

PDNA wants X/O investigation: planning department refuses

By Sarah Severson

The Prairie District Neighborhood Alliance (PDNA) has filed a procedural challenge with the City’s Department of Planning and Development asking for clarification on aspects of the approved X/O luxury highrise project at 1700 S. Prairie Ave, which would erect one tower of 45 stories and another 33 stories high. The City, however, found no reason for an investigation and nothing inappropriate in the project’s approval process.

“We’re concerned with the procedural aspect of the approval,” said Jeff Ayersman, PDNA treasurer. “We believe there was not full disclosure on the application and that the project does not fit with the City’s plan for the Near South Loop.”

Tina Feldstein, PDNA president, said the application did not provide full financial disclosure or mention that Keith Giles, a Frankel & Giles and Kargil Development principal, was an officer on the Near South Planning Board (NSPB), one of the organizations that approved the project. She also alleged neighborhood residents did not receive notice before public meetings.



“We feel it was not due diligence in the process of approving the project,” Feldstein explained. “They did not disclose that the developer had donated money to every organization that gave community support.”

Giles responded by noting the financial part of the application contained a misprint that has since been cleared up and insisting he has been open about his involvement with the NSPB and a one-time donation to the Greater South Loop Association (GSLA). He added that the developer held multiple meetings with individual neighbors and community groups about the project.

“The public and community review of this project took place over a period of over six months, which allowed comment and community input from many, many different sources," Giles wrote in a letter that was read aloud at the last GSLA meeting. "The result was a project that was approved without significant objection.”

Giles recently met with the PDNA to discuss its concerns.

“We opened up a formal dialogue with the hope and expectation to come up with some compromises on development ideas,” Giles said. “We made it clear that we’re not ignoring them, and we’re concerned that they don’t like the project.”

Giles said the towers' design will not change, as more than half the units in the first tower already are sold, but he is willing to redesign the townhouses and streetscape.

“We’re including a 10,000 square foot park, replacing street lights, redoing sidewalks, and contributed $700,000 to the Glessner House,” Giles said. “We’re trying to reconcile with the group and are willing to do some more.”

Despite PDNA’s opposition, Giles is encouraged by the number of sales to date.

“The public at large has embraced the project, and it’s been very successful from a marketing and sales standpoint,” he said.

Giles disagreed with the PDNA’s challenge to the project’s applications, stating the developer always has focused on full disclosure.

“The group is looking for a way to overturn the decision from Planning and Development,” he said. “I’m disappointed that no one has focused on the world-renowned architecture and that this will be an environmentally responsible building. We’re doing more than anyone has done in the South Loop.”

The City Council approved the X/O Towers last fall. The project is in the construction documents stage, with final plans being created. Giles said the developers expect to have permits this summer and break ground next year.

The City’s Department of Planning and Development (DPD) said that, although the PDNA objects to having two tall towers near the historic Prairie District, the property actually sits just north of the district and fits into the City’s plan for the South Loop for several reasons. For example, according to Constance Buscemi, DPD spokesperson, the X/O development will be down the block from other new—and taller—buildings, the corner will provide open space that is accessible and available to the community, the project will provide parking as required, and the development will be set back behind townhouses in accordance with the South Loop plan.

“Development means that you mix old with new—a mix of heights and density,” Buscemi said. “If you never developed anything, it would stay the same. You do not preserve a historic district by creating new buildings that mimic it but [by constructing ones] that are different so you don’t confuse historic buildings with recently erected buildings.”

Buscemi confirmed the developers completed the approval process in the correct manner by holding community meetings and going through the City Planning Commission and Zoning Committee, where the public can comment.

“It was an open, public process judged on its merits, and it was approved,” Buscemi said. “There was nothing inappropriate and no reason for investigation.”

Newly elected 2nd Ward alderman Bob Fioretti said he plans to review all the documents related the project, and he wants to work with Planning and Development, neighborhood organizations, and the developer to find resolutions among all parties.

“I will review what has already taken place and then form an opinion on the matter,” he said.
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For example, according to Constance Buscemi ... " ...You do not preserve a historic district by creating new buildings that mimic it but [by constructing ones] that are different so you don’t confuse historic buildings with recently erected buildings.”

Right on the money! I am so glad the DPD has gotten wiser about development and urban planning issues. Enough with the PoMo junk - it doesn't do itself or its surrounding any good.
     
     
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Thanks for posting the article, BVictor1.

If you haven't already, check out the X/O Condominiums website www.xocondominiums.com. It's well designed. There's an interesting virtual tour and an interview with Lucien Lagrange.
     
     
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Giles said the towers' design will not change, as more than half the units in the first tower already are sold, but he is willing to redesign the townhouses and streetscape.
^ That's almost an insult to PDNA, since their quarrel is with the highrises themselves, not the townhomes
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^ That's almost an insult to PDNA, since their quarrel is with the highrises themselves, not the townhomes
Agreed... I hope that other 40-story building planned a little further south on Prairie Avenue gets built also, just because...
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^ Sorry BVic, I'm not familiar with that proposal... Have we discussed it here? Is it the corner of Cermak and Prairie?
     
     
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Two things....

1. I love the towers of XO... but I'm not a big fan of the town homes.... I consider this latest news a good opportunity.

2. Does anyone know what the story is with the Jewish Federation building at Franklin and Monroe? I noticed that it seems that the building looks like it is getting gutted out... and the parking lot out back has been torn up and out and has been fenced off.... maybe I'm being too hopefull....but is there a new highrise planned here?
     
     
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Thanks for posting the article, BVictor1.

If you haven't already, check out the X/O Condominiums website www.xocondominiums.com. It's well designed. There's an interesting virtual tour and an interview with Lucien Lagrange.

Thanks for the link Solar...

This is going to look stunning in the South Loop...
     
     
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2. Does anyone know what the story is with the Jewish Federation building at Franklin and Monroe? I noticed that it seems that the building looks like it is getting gutted out... and the parking lot out back has been torn up and out and has been fenced off.... maybe I'm being too hopefull....but is there a new highrise planned here?
Sorry to disappoint - there is development here, but... it's just a remodelling to turn the building into a La Quinta, and it's ugly as hell. The building will expand onto the parking lot to add 27,000 sq. ft. to the building's current 93,000.

     
     
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^ That site should be a good candidate for redevelopment ~15 years from now.
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Well, at least it will add some pedestrians to Franklin at night. Right now, the only hotel in the area is the Allegro, and there's some residential a bit north at Washington/Franklin.

I wonder how they are handling parking here. The rendering seems to indicate an underground garage, but how can they build an underground garage into an existing foundation?
     
     
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^ Interesting observation. I would guess it's a driveway, perhaps through the building to Arcade Street, like the Embassy Suites in Streeterville. This especially would make sense if it was under the addition they're about to build on top of that vacant lot.

I would doubt they're spending money on excavating a garage, especially when one of the bigger city garages is right next door. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they connected one of the floors of the parking garage right into the hotel - great selling point, especially with the Enterprise Rent-A-Car right in the garage too.
     
     
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That part of West Loop should have some decent streetlife at off hours in the next few years. There's the SCB-designed Jupiter project (49-stories?) a block north on Washington, there's the Randolph Tower rental conversion, the rental tower announced for Lake/Wells, now plus this hotel. hopefully should inject some extra juice into the retail market around there as well.
     
     
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Tower twirls and debate starts to swirl

By Blair Kamin
Tribune architecture critic
Published May 6, 2007


It sounds, at first blush, like an oversize architectural joke -- a skyscraper where each floor would revolve independently around a central core, not only making a 360-degree rotation but also creating a constantly shifting profile.

The spinning skyscraper!

The great merry-go-round in the sky!

The anti-No Spin Zone!

But don't laugh.

The little-known Italian-Israeli architect and developer who recently announced plans to build such a skyscraper in the desert playland of Dubai was making the rounds in Chicago last week and has designs on adding another rotating tower, housing condos, offices and a hotel, to Chicago's vaunted skyline.

His name is David Fisher and his most notable invention to date is the "Smart Bathroom by Leonardo da Vinci" system, a prefab bathroom used in high-end hotels and homes. He is 58 years old and has never built a skyscraper. And that makes him, he insists, the perfect guy to rethink the tall building because he is unencumbered by conventional thinking.

"This is the future," he said in an interview. "One building -- endless shapes."

Or, perhaps, endless visual chaos.

In Dubai, where Fisher has designed a 68-story hotel, apartment and office tower that he predicts will start construction in six months, such an outlandish proposal promises to fit right in. The desert emirate already is home to some of the most oddball architecture in the world, including an underwater luxury hotel and a man-made chain of islands in the form of a palm frond.


Chicago isn't Dubai

Chicago is different, a tough-guy town where the stark rectangles of the street grid extend upward to the skyline and such boxy behemoths as Sears Tower. For years, its leading architectural light was the stern modernist Ludwig Mies van der Rohe, who once said that architecture "is not a playground for children, young or old."

On the other hand, the straight-laced city shows signs of loosening up. The City Council on Wednesday is expected to grant final political approval to architect Santiago Calatrava's plan for a 2,000-foot-tall lakefront tower that would twist into the sky like an oversize drill bit.


'He's nuts'

Not surprisingly, then, the prospect that one of Fisher's spinning towers could be twirling on the Chicago skyline is generating passionate debate.

"He's nuts," said Chicago architect George Schipporeit, co-designer of the undulating Lake Point Tower and a faculty member at the Illinois Institute of Technology's architecture school. "There are little jerky things that detract from the continuous development of the city."

Yet Anthony Wood, executive director of the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, the Chicago-based organization that monitors skyscrapers worldwide, said: "The ability of this tall building to morph, depending on the time of day or the time of year, I think, is an incredible idea. But of course, you then get into the whole dimension of whether it's plausible."

Fisher, who insists his concept is doable, spoke Tuesday at the Global Real Estate Summit, a real estate conference at the Four Seasons Hotel hosted by the law firm DLA Piper, which has a large office in Chicago. He met Wednesday with officials of the Chicago Department of Planning and Development.

The reaction? Guarded.

Planning department spokeswoman Constance Buscemi labeled the meeting with city officials purely introductory.

Jay Epstien, chair of DLA Piper's U.S. real estate practice and co-chair of the conference, said "the buzz was some people said to me there was a 'wow' factor after seeing his video presentation of the building. That came from a pretty sophisticated group of people. Other people scratched their heads about the technical side of how it would all work."

At least two developers in Chicago are interested in his concept, Fisher said, though he declined to identify them. Among the sites he's eyeing is a parking lot near the NBC Tower and the University of Chicago's Gleacher Center. He envisions a tower 60 to 90 stories tall.

His idea works like this: Build a cylindrical concrete core that looks something like a missile silo. Construct apartments, offices or hotel units off-site. Adapt ship-lifting technology to hoist the apartments into place and -- voila! -- you have rotating pies in the sky.

In the Dubai tower, residents of full-floor penthouses on the tower's five highest floors would use voice-activated systems to make their floor turn left or right, fast or slow, Fisher said.

Fast, he explained, would be one turn per hour. Slow would be one turn per three hours. The building's managers would determine the rotation of lower floors with more than one apartment.

Motion sickness and vibrations won't be a problem, he said.

In keeping with the current wave of enthusiasm for environmentally sensitive green architecture, wind turbines would be located between each floor. As a result, Fisher predicted, the Dubai building would generate enough electricity for itself and five equivalent structures.

The savings realized by prefabricating the units would offset more expensive features, such as having the building rotate, he said. While the overall cost of such a tower would be 5 percent more expensive than a typical high-rise, Fisher predicted, the units would sell at a premium, ensuring a profit.

"These are going to be iconic buildings," he said.


A bit rusty

A native of Tel Aviv who moved to Florence, Italy, to study architecture in graduate school, Fisher said he has not practiced architecture since 1985, making his living instead in development and construction management.

He got the idea for a rotating tower several years ago during a tour of a condominium high-rise near Miami where ocean-facing units were selling for far more than those with inland views. Ten days later, he recalled, he was in New York City visiting a friend whose high-rise dwelling had views of both the East River and the Hudson River. But it was the only unit on the floor with such views. "This is where it clicked," he said.

In the United States, he said, he is pushing the rotating tower concept in New York City and Miami as well as Chicago. In each city, he said, he would likely join forces with local developers.

What is conceptually provocative about Fisher's plan is its departure from conventional high-rise construction.

Typically, in order to simplify construction and save money, a high-rise's services and utilities -- elevators, supply conduits for water, gas and electricity -- go straight up while the conduits for water and waste go straight down.

Pressed on how the plumbing stack would work in the rotating tower, Fisher said that moving pipes would follow the units as they rotated and would be joined through a "smart connection" to rigid pipes in the building's core.

Schipporeit, for one, is unpersuaded. He call the plumbing idea "the ultimate O-ring gasket, out of NASA," referring to a key rocket booster part implicated in the explosion of the space shuttle Challenger in 1986.

Whatever the outcome, there should be no dispute on the right music to play in the tower's elevators: the Byrds' 1960s recording "Turn, Turn, Turn."

Fisher's concept can be seen at his Web site, http://www.dynamicarchitecture.net/.
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/a...1,5216283.story?coll=chi-leisurearts-hed

ARCHITECTURE
Tower twirls and debate starts to swirl

By Blair Kamin
Tribune architecture critic
Published May 6, 2007

Whatever the outcome, there should be no dispute on the right music to play in the tower's elevators: the Byrds' 1960s recording "Turn, Turn, Turn."

Fisher's concept can be seen at his Web site, http://www.dynamicarchitecture.net/.
Thanks BVic for pointing this out. I'm all for trying new things but agree with whoever said this guy is nuts. Plumbing, electrical, HVAC, sprinklers, & phone & TV all on rotating connections on every floor??? What a maintenance nightmare!!!
     
     
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At least two developers in Chicago are interested in his concept, Fisher said, though he declined to identify them. Among the sites he's eyeing is a parking lot near the NBC Tower and the University of Chicago's Gleacher Center. He envisions a tower 60 to 90 stories tall.
Hmmm........sound like Carley/Reschke partnership is one of the two unnamed developers but I may be wrong. Kinda awfully close to CS, huh?
     
     
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Hmmm........sound like Carley/Reschke partnership is one of the two unnamed developers but I may be wrong. Kinda awfully close to CS, huh?
No, the Carley/Reschke possible development would be east across Columbus Drive and just north of the Sheraton. I believe the parcel being mentioned in this article is the parcel south of NBC Tower along the river.
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I don't even want to imagine how much electricity it would take to keep this 200,000 ton skyscraper merry-go-round spinning. Unless they plan to tap into the bustling flow of the Chicago River. HAHA.
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