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Old Posted Apr 24, 2007, 11:14 PM
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you all see 45 stories of glass and brick, a plaza and a lack of alleys.....I see a building that looks like it is giving the D&F tower the middle finger. (look at the outline of the brick up the side of the building). Such a snobby building and it isn't even built yet.
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2007, 11:28 PM
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I think it would be a great addition to the skyline, even if it won't be the new tallest.
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Old Posted Apr 24, 2007, 11:55 PM
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I think it's wonderful! Besides, with TWO skyscrapers along 14th St. rising at the same time (or damn near the same time), this should be pretty incredible! As for the plaza, well, I understand the frustration of my fellow Denver SSPers, but I see this as a MASSIVE improvement for our downtown, along with the Spire, of course.

Between these two monsters, plus several other 15-20 story buildings in the CPV/Union Station/LoDo/Golden Triangle areas, I'd say downtown and the environs are doing very, very well!

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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 12:02 AM
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I can understand why some people are being so negative, but that's a really pretty tower. Only... what? 8-Stories short of Denver's tallest? She's going to be fun to watch go up, and at the same time as several other large projects.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 12:22 AM
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Downtown Denver to get 45-story Four Seasons hotel
The Denver Business Journal
Noelle Leavitt

After years of planning and negotiating, a new 45-story Four Seasons Hotel & Residences is coming to downtown Denver -- and it's being hailed as a five-star boost to the city's reputation.

Four Seasons, along with developers Michael Brenneman and Jeff Selby, announced at a press conference Tuesday that the luxury hotel and condominium project will break ground this July at the corner of 14th and Arapahoe streets. The project will contain 230 hotel rooms plus 102 condos, ranging in size from 965 to 6,100 square feet.

Completion is scheduled for fall or winter of 2009.

The project's value was previously estimated at $350 million. Brenneman would not give an exact cost for the project Tuesday, but said the value would be close to the original estimate.

Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper and Craig Reid, Four Seasons' senior vice president of operations, were on hand for the announcement.

"Somehow, over the years, what Four Seasons has created is that they really are the best," Hickenlooper said. "And a city can't reach that summit without a Four Seasons."

Finalizing the Four Seasons' deal was the culmination of a long journey for Benneman and Selby, formerly of Teatro Towers LLC, whose company is now called 1111 Tower LLC.

"They've been trying to get the Four Seasons deal for years," said Stephen Hennis of Hospitium, a hospitality research company. "The fact that it's gotten this far and they're able to break ground is a tribute to them."

In November of 2004, the developers unveiled a plan to build a luxury 50-story Four Seasons hotel and condominium property -- due to open this year -- on the site, but contract details and financing weren't final.

"That's always been a question mark," Hennis said about the financing. "They've been very tight-lipped about it."

Earlier this year, Selby and Brenneman said they had arranged a $200 million financing deal with Cairn Capital of London and that they had raised $31 million through the sale of the Hotel Teatro located across from the Four Seasons site.

At Tuesday's press conference, Brenneman said all the financing will come from Cairn Capitol of London. However, the exact amount was unclear.

"They're not going to be disclosing the [total] cost of the project," said Steven Shapiro, a spokesman for the developers.

It's not clear if some of the financing will come from condo sales, but the sales office opened Tuesday at the Denver Performing Arts Complex and reservations have already transpired.

"It's very fun to be fully opening our marketing center," Brenneman said.

Many believe that the Four Seasons will raise the prestige of Denver.

"I really think it helps solidify downtown Denver's place to move up to a five-star city," said Jim Kirchheimer, director of economic development for the Downtown Denver Partnership. "In addition to the Ritz-Carlton, it's a great addition to the skyline."

The 19-story Ritz-Carlton Hotel and residences is scheduled to open this fall at 1881 Curtis St. and will be Denver's first five-star hotel. The Ritz will have 202 hotel rooms, with 47 suites and 25 condominiums.

Four Seasons Hotels Inc. (NYSE: FS) is a publicly traded company, but the board accepted a purchase offer from a Saudi prince and a Bill Gates company earlier this year that will take the company private. The deal is expected to be finalized April 26, and is worth $3.8 billion.

The Four Seasons operates 73 hotels in 31 countries.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 12:30 AM
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That is absolutely stunning.... I think the plaza can even be a positive. It takes away from density slightly, but a nice plaza in front of a nice building can be a real plus. It adds some character and really draws attention to what will be a landmark building on the west side of the city. Between the Hyatt, Spire, the Four Seasons, and the convention center that side of town is shaping up to be absolutely incredible (and if the Auraria plans comes to fruition.. just wow). I'm just stoked that we're seeing some real development to the west of 16th. We're seeing the development of a truly world class city.

Now they just have to get it out of the ground...
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 1:27 AM
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My reaction to the area occupied by the project, in that is occupies one half of the block along the Arapahoe/Lawrence axis but 2/3 or 3/4 of the block along the 14th/15th axis is that they are allowing for a potential second tower. That may not jive, however, with the land ownership parcels found on that block.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 1:49 AM
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I'm a lurker who used to live in Denver but now lives in CA. I love keeping up with Denver developments though. It is cool seeing it all in person when I go back on visits. Thanks to all posters!


....That said, I googled Denver Four Seasons, and saw a different rendering that was with the press release. It's a pretty sweet perspective, so I thought I would post the link. The pic is "tower city image" in the attached files section on the right.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2007/4/prweb521647.htm
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 2:00 AM
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Brillig: Thanks! I assume that was the other rendering folks where talking about. Very nice..
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 2:06 AM
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Thanks for the find, TwasBrillig, that's some good investigating. I've taken the liberty of posting the high-res image of the second rendering:



I'm actually glad to see that it's not a plaza, but a landscaped parking area with a blank wall on the pedestal. It practically screams, "reserved for future second tower".
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 2:07 AM
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When I showed my friend the rendering on the Denver Post web site she said "is that the new world trade center?"
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 2:09 AM
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Sweet! Thanks wong.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 2:14 AM
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ugh...i see what you're saying - it's the carport for dropoff, and probably some corner retail..

another alley lost...
I don't think there was ever an alley on this block. I've got a photo showing the block in the early 1920's. The 15th Street side had the Central Bank building at 15th and Arapahoe, and a second building at 15th and Lawrence. The portion of the block where the Four Seasons will be going was the streetcar yard and turn-around.

The photo is at work. I will scan it when I get a chance.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 2:14 AM
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When I showed my friend the rendering on the Denver Post web site she said "is that the new world trade center?"
I look at it and go 'cool, a modern empire state building'...

My wife is horribly annoyed right now, I've been geeking out over this for like an hour.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 2:47 AM
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I'm actually glad to see that it's not a plaza, but a landscaped parking area with a blank wall on the pedestal. It practically screams, "reserved for future second tower".
I completely agree, Wong. Developers can make things look bland, they can be REAL stupid, but I think this plain wall facing an open area on the block is all too clear a message. They would follow the example of countless "twin" projects that have gone up in Calgary; I definitely would not be surprised to see a 4S #2 go up in the next 10-15 years.



On another note, wouldn't a 51-story "Great Gulf Tower" in the lower left open lot frame that parking plaza well in the meantime?
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 3:09 AM
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Wasnt there talk back in the original thread about a second tower someday?
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 3:55 AM
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Woo hoo! Just posted high-res versions of the tower at the DenverInfill blog. SWEEEEEET!!
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 3:55 AM
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rds...good point - but the city certainly can make demands for the dedication and use of new alleys.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 8:20 AM
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I'm happy that the crown is still in place. At 650' the fourth tallest building will have to do. She is beautiful though.
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2007, 10:53 AM
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Woo hoo! Just posted high-res versions of the tower at the DenverInfill blog. SWEEEEEET!!
And they're very nice, Ken... (As Aaron pats Ken on the back)

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