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Not sure if this has been posted but Superior 110 also known as Opus 110 is about to start construction in a few days.

Here is the update: http://www.newcityskyline.com/Superior110.html
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Spyguy posted an article about this on the general developments thread, but it's about 14 stories so might as well bring it over here. A planned expansion of Rush Hospital to the east:



The site is the northwest corner of Harrison and Ashland, and is currently tennis courts. Emporis ID = 296843.
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Another MoMo trivia fact: The steel truss was so mammoth that no manufacturer in the States could take it. In fact, allegedly, only one mill in the world was capable of making it. So, the truss came all the way from Luxembourg.
This makes me disappointed. There was a time when the US was the undisputed world champion of steel. During that time, we built some of the world's greatest bridges, miles and miles of subways, and a fleet of ships and an army of tanks powerful enough to fight wars on countless battlefields around the globe.

Now, we are reduced to a pale shell of our former self in terms of our self-reliance.
     
     
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Here's a story about a bunch of fucking cry babies. I'd like to hear what people on this forum think about it... I've highlighted some of "interesting" parts of the article.

http://www.nearwestgazette.com/Archive/0407/Newsstory0407e.htm

Construction too loud on Clark St., neighbors charge

By Sarah Severson

New construction is a common sight in the South Loop, and with it comes the expected noise and annoyance to those living in and around it. Residents living close to a highrise condo and retail development going up at 710 S. Clark St. have suffered more than their share of disturbance, however. For months, jarring noise and vibration have been constants as construction workers have pounded 95-foot steel beams known as H-piles into the ground on a daily basis from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. since the end of December.



The project, managed by Terrapin Group and constructed by the Walsh Group, originally called for using a much quieter and cheaper process of drilling rather than pounding the beams into the building’s foundation. The drilling method carried greater risk, though, so in the end the project was required to use H-piles. The City’s approval process relied on soil borings and dimension surveys to choose between the two methods.

“That area is built on a swamp, and when you excavate out, you take the potential of caving in,” said Rob Eshoo, vice president of construction at Terrapin Group. “The H-piles were more money, but design-wise and from the City’s perspective, it was less risky.”

The City requires a monitoring system, with sensors on the site, the street, and nearby properties to gauge vibration levels from the pounding. A company representative oversees the project on the site each day, so Terrapin is well aware of the noise and disruption.

“There is a double-edged sword of new development,” Eshoo said. “It’s a slight inconvenience at the time, but when everyone’s property values go up they don’t come thank us.”

Eshoo estimated pile pounding will finish in mid-April, weather permitting. Despite further construction, the noise level will plunge after the piles are in.

“We just want to get the beams in quickly,” he added. “Once it’s done everyone can appreciate and enjoy the amenities—the retail and the new homeowners will be an upside down the road for the neighborhood.”

The pounding’s inconvenience has been far more than “slight” for many residents who are home during the day. Carla Shortino lives at 124 W. Polk St., right next to the construction, and was home with her three-year-old and two-week-old baby when the pounding began. She ended up relocating to her sister’s house for five weeks because she could not tolerate the noise.

“My nerves were fried and I was freaked out that it was going to upset my kids,” she said. “I wanted to be home, but it was really traumatic for me. The building was shaking so bad, and you could feel the floor and building vibrate with every pound.”

When Shortino returned home to more pounding, friends who are away at work all day gave her their keys so she could stay at their homes during the day. While a relief, she still had to bundle her two young children up each morning and stay away from home all day.

“The first week of this, it was blizzarding and so awful,” she said. “I even called a lawyer to see if there was anything I could do, but he said I would probably be wasting my money. This situation really put a hardship on us.”

Another nearby resident, Tammy Sarver, a political science professor at Benedictine University, said she used to write from home on Fridays but has had to work at coffee shops since the pounding began.

“The pounding sounds like someone has taken all of the pots and pans in the kitchen and is banging them in my head,” Sarver said. “I can’t write when I hear clanging all day.”

Sarver is so tired of the construction noise she has decided to move.

“If this is going to continue to happen, I’m not staying—I’m moving where there is no room to build,” she said. “Luckily I can get out of here easier than other people here because I’m a renter.”

Martin Plummer, who lives in a building at Clark and Polk Streets, said he understands noise comes with new construction but is upset nevertheless.

“I hate nuisances, especially those that I don’t give my approval or consent to.” Plummer said. “I don’t remember anyone passing around a survey asking if I’d object. Within the scope of a mile of my building there are six major construction projects going on.”


Danny Scollan, a realtor who also lives in the area, said he faced challenges selling properties close to the construction project.

“It’s difficult because no one wants to move in with the prospect of that noise constantly right next to them,” he said. “The growth is good for real estate, but a lot of realtors think it’s too much and that there is no regulation to keep the noise to a minimum. Constant noise pounding for months on end can drive someone insane.”

Parson Brown is a film major at Columbia College who lives around the corner from the construction. He said he has to wear headphones to get anything done whiles at home during the day.

“Normally I’d like to sleep later, so the only positive thing is that the noise wakes me up,” Brown said. “Usually I have to blast music into my ears when I’m doing homework. For several months it’s been all day, every day.”


Susan Delhey is one resident who has taken action, writing letters to Terrapin Properties and contacting the City about her concerns. She has a one-year-old child who does not sleep during the day due to the pounding and then is up at night because her sleep pattern is thrown off.

“I’m surprised it passes the City’s noise decibel limit—I can’t believe the City hasn’t done something about this,” she said.

A representative from Terrapin replied to Delhey’s letters with sympathy but no action. Delhey has contacted 2nd Ward Alderman Madeleine Haithcock, who agreed an ordinance governing this type of noise is needed. She plans to talk to the Mayor about the situation, said the Alderman’s spokesperson Cynthia Young.

“It’s very disconcerting to say the least,” Young said.

For now, the project does abide by current rules stating construction should occur between 8 a.m. and 8 p.m.

“There’s not really anything the City would be able to do in terms of the noise,” said the City’s Department of Environment spokesperson Larry Merit.

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I have no sympathy once so ever.

I personally feel that all of these people should be gathered up and dumped onto a deserted island, or at least the corn fields of Kendall County. Welcome to the city ass holes. It's already been stated that if caissons were drilled, there was danger of possible collapse because of soil conditions. There's no way to regulate the sounds of driving piles, unless some sort of silencer has been invented that I'm unaware of. Haithcock is such an idiot. That's what these morons get for moving into a developing area.

Fucktards!!!!
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"Parson Brown is a film major at Columbia College who lives around the corner from the construction. He said he has to wear headphones to get anything done whiles at home during the day.

“Normally I’d like to sleep later, so the only positive thing is that the noise wakes me up,” Brown said. “Usually I have to blast music into my ears when I’m doing homework. For several months it’s been all day, every day.”"


^This guy is the most lame out of them all. Is he chained inside his apartment, and can't go outside or get a job or just shut the hell up if the noise is SO BAD for him? Pretty hard to make a film sitting on your ass in your apartment all day. I had jackhammering going on in the parking garage floors directly below my apartment for almost a year.. (And holy shit.. my life went on! WOW!) so this guy can kiss my ass if he thinks his noise is bad enough to complain in a news article about.

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No sympathy from this quarter. Come on people you live in Chicago, noise comes with the territory. We have a parable here. People who move into the country to get away from the city and then complain about the smell of cow shit!

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Old Posted Apr 7, 2007, 8:19 PM
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More bullshit....


Prairie Ave. group fights X/O luxury highrise plan

By Angie Timmons

Despite her early support, 2nd Ward Alderman Madeline Haithcock said she will stall permits for the X/O development planned for the Prairie Avenue District, adding she “didn’t know that people around the area wouldn’t want it.”

Haithcock said her initial support had stemmed from the green light the Greater South Loop Association (GSLA) and the Near South Planning Board (NSPB) gave X/O last year.



Envisioned as a pair of dancers against the Chicago skyline by their architect, the X/O luxury highrise towers are causing a stir among neighborhood residents represented by Prairie District Neighborhood Alliance (PDNA), a new group formed in part to fight the development. The PDNA did not exist when X/O developers went calling on area community groups last year.

Arguing X/O does not fit the character of the Prairie District and that public notice was not given before public meetings, the PDNA has filed a challenge of project approval with the City’s Department of Planning and Development. Also, the group alleges X/O developers Kargil and Frankel & Giles violated zoning and municipal codes.

“X/O is forever going to change Prairie Avenue,” said Tina Feldstein, PDNA president, at the group’s March 5 meeting. “Five hundred units of glass and steel do not reflect this neighborhood. You’ve got to let the City know you don’t want those towers on that corner.”

The City’s plan for the Near South community contains clear guidelines for development within the Prairie District. Calling for low-rise structures and “building materials and styles that are compatible with the historic character of Prairie Avenue,” the guidelines suggest building heights along Prairie Avenue (where X/O would be located at 1700 S. Prairie Ave., though set back behind ten townhouses) should be 60 feet, with heights up to 250 feet allowed elsewhere in the district. At 45 stories, the tallest of X/O’s two towers would come in at 460 feet; the second tower would have 33 stories.

Though X/O does not appear to reflect what City guidelines envision for the Prairie District, Bob McKenna from the Department of Planning and Development told the PDNA members at last month’s meeting that the project fits within the City’s zoning code and that the developers “have ownership rights and development rights” to the land, regardless of how one might feel about the design. He noted Haithcock had said early on that the towers did not fit with the neighborhood.

People living in the Prairie District are scratching their heads over the plans vs. zoning code question. Jeffery Ayersman, PDNA treasurer, said, “The City tells us initially that the plans themselves are optional, yet the Zoning Ordinance, which is the law, uses terminology that ‘plan developments must be consistent with plans adopted by the plan commission…,’ with the definition of must being mandatory. So how can a plan be optional if the Zoning Ordinance says it is mandatory? It defies logic of normal people.”

Controversy has not cooled early sales at X/O. Brian Giles, senior vice president with Kargil Development, said that as of late March 140 units worth $70 million had been sold. “People recognize the quality of the development,” Giles said, and X/O’s modern design is “architecturally significant.”

Giles would not comment on Haithcock’s pledge to stall X/O’s building permits but later said that his company is not at the point where it would be securing them. PDNA concerns about issues such as inadequate sewer infrastructure for such a large project, to Giles, “doesn’t hold any water, no pun intended,” because large developments anywhere in the city can require sewer upgrades. X/O is an approved planned development, and like Haithcock, Giles pointed to GSLA and NSPB support as evidence his company gained the requisite public support. He added his company will break ground later this year.

PDNA’s Feldstein called those groups’ backing into question at the early March meeting, saying, “the community support is steeped in conflict,” especially with X/O developer Keith Giles sitting on the NSPB board.

Bob Fioretti, Haithcock’s challenger in the April 17 runoff election, said Haithcock “has pitted community members against community members,” in the wake of X/O. If he were Alderman no problem would have arisen because he would have kept the public informed along with way. “She’s the Alderman; she can do a lot,” Fioretti said, when asked if X/O as an approved planned development was too far along for anyone to force the project back to the drawing board.

Haithcock felt Prairie Avenue residents’ ire at the March PDNA meeting, especially when one resident, feeling duped by the situation, called her on her flip-flop regarding X/O. “Coming here doesn’t do me any good,” Haithcock said, “If you don’t want to work with me, just say so.” Haithcock also maintained she was listening to neighbors now and that the past does not matter.

“We recognize that this is not what [Prairie Avenue residents] wanted,” Haithcock told the Gazette. “We’ll take another look at it and we’ll see.” Haithcock vowed to bring both sides together so everyone could work toward a resolution, noting, “Their opinion matters.”

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Bunch of stupid twats. Tina Feldstein moved into the neighborhood 3 years ago from Lincoln Park and she needs to take her ass back! These people keep comenting on the historic character of the neighborhood; what historic character? Do they mean the dozen mansions left in the area? The area hasn't been historic for 50 years, if not longer. It should have never been designated a historic district. The individual houses should have been landmarked. For the past 50 years ther area was industrial, then an induatrial waste land. These people need to get there heads out of their asses because the tightness is cutting off the blood supply and oxygen to their brains. They're talking about needing sewer upgrades: that's not the developers job, the city should have done that before any redevelopment in the area happened.
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^ You have to be retarded to move into a growing area like the South Loop and expect peace and quiet like you are living in bum-f**k Arkansas. And if you are so upset by construction, try doing some research of the area before you move in.

I hate nuisances, especially those that I don’t give my approval or consent to.” Plummer said. “I don’t remember anyone passing around a survey asking if I’d object.

^What an insufferable self important jackass. I didn't know every decision in the city had to be run by this guy. I guess it's better for the city to stop all progress and development so a few residents won't have to be incovenienced for a time. Piss off!
     
     
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Get Over It!!

i ALSO LIVE IN THE SOUTH LOOP, AND TERRAPIN COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THOSE SAME "complainers" COME THANKING THE DEVELOPER FOR THEIR DOUBLE AND TRIPLE RAISE IN PROPERTY VALUE! IF YOU LIKE PEACE AND QUIET GO BUY A FARM!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
     
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I really love the design of this building, but has anyone noticed that the opaqueness of the glass on the lower floors so far make this building look as if it was constructed in the 60's early 70's. everytime i pass or go by this building i cant help but think thats what this looks like
     
     
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Do any of the sites these articles come from have a comment option?
I believe so.

There is a Letter section where I believe you can write a letter to the editor.

There the papers website. I think I will be giving a piece of my mind, because after reading those 2 articles I am totally irritated.

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Do other city's have bad NIMBY problems, it seems like Chicago has alot, but then I wouldn't know about other cities.
     
     
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I really love the design of this building, but has anyone noticed that the opaqueness of the glass on the lower floors so far make this building look as if it was constructed in the 60's early 70's. everytime i pass or go by this building i cant help but think thats what this looks like
I was recently thinking the same thing but then noticed on the SSC board that someone had mentioned that there is a protective coating on the glass? I am guessing/hoping that the glass will be much more transparent when this coating is removed?
     
     
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^ Isn't Manhattan (except maybe the financial district) one big NIMBY clusterf*** ?
TUP (or anyone), can you comment?

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^ Isn't Manhattan (except maybe the financial district) one big NIMBY clusterf*** ?
TUP (or anyone), can you comment?
Really? I would think that almost anyone who moves to Manhattan knows fully well that the city is full of skyscrapers, tons of noise and activity at all hours of the day/night, etc....and knows fully well that they are not moving to a serene location but to a chaotic but vibrant city - which is something that they most likely embrace, if they wanted to move there in the first place.
     
     
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IS there any chance the X/o development is in jeopardy, and what exactly would stalling permits do? If Haithcock stalls the permits, cant the developers sue the city for needlessly increasing their construction costs for an already approved project?

It sounds like complete political stupidy for the run-off election coming up between Haithcock and Fioretti.
     
     
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^^ Indeed you'd think so. But think about the other side of the same coin: living in such a dense and diverse (more than anywhere except London?) environment has made everyone there coarser, tougher, more protective of what little they have, and more aggressive (and selfish, greedy) when they want to assert themselves. I believe sunlight and traffic are the big issues, especially as you get north of the 60s or 70s, where it's still primarily 'charming' (read: functionally kinda useless) brownstones, etc. And NYC is crawling with lawyers, who help turn everything, including development, into a battle. That Norman Foster building in the 70s on the east side is facing opposition, right? That's my preliminary understanding; let's see what TUP or others who have spent more time there have to say.
     
     
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Who are these people? What P-L-A-N-E-T are they from!??

THEY WANT PEACE AND QUIET BETWEEN 8AM AND 5PM!!!??? DO YOU KNOW WHERE I AM FROM 8AM TO 5PM???

I'M AWAKE... AT WORK!!.... (actually typically from 7.30am to 6pm)

Get a damn job and send your kids off to school and shut the hell up.

Fucking spoiled brats.... that's what's wrong with our generation.... ENTITLEMENT.... everybody is fuck'n entitled to peace and quiet, huge SUV's, cheap oil, free healthcare, free housing, clean air, beautiful views and an endless supply of tanning oil and plastic surgery.... FUCK OFF and get to work.

I'm happy to say my condo is coming along just fine (in a future South Loop high-rise) and when I move down there and hear piles being driven the noise will sound like loose change hitting my new hard wood floors... property value up.... property value up.... property value up....property value up......... (besides I probably won't hear that shit... because.... you guessed it.... I'll be at work)
     
     
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