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Old Posted Mar 29, 2007, 5:57 PM
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Actually it reminds me of this project in Auburn:



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The Shoppes at Capps Farm in Opelika (across from TigerTown/I-85) is also being developed by the same as the Shoppes at River Bend
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When's Mason Court and those projects off University west of Toys R' Us gonna be destroyed?
don't see that happening anytime soon, but the director of Huntsville's
Housing Authority is very proactive and visionary it seems, so never say never. That bit of real estate is very valuable I bet.
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The Shoppes at Capps Farm in Opelika (across from TigerTown/I-85) is also being developed by the same as the Shoppes at River Bend
How much retail can Auburn-Opelika sustain? I know the Fort Benning BRAC is gonna bring some 9,000 new jobs to the Columbus-Lagrange-Auburn/Opelika Triangle and there's also the Kia Plant coming online next year. Just seems like the Prettiest Little Village on the Plains is growing up fast and so's its neighbor to the east.
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New condo construction downtown called Roosevelt Place directly across the street from "Bud Cramer Park. These will be very nice(5 units? not sure) and a great addition. Architecture on these will be excellent.
The location is excellent in the Old Town Historic District just a short stroll
from Five Points and/or Big Spring Park via the new Gateway Park Greenway extension also under construction. The centerpiece of this extension is a large pecan tree, and it meanders adajcent to the railroad tracks, under I-565 on ramps, skateboard park, to the existing Gateway Park and then to the train depot.
Bud Cramer Park is a nice "front yard" to these condos and includes a stream,
playground and the historic Clemons House. The Childrens Advocacy Center is next door.
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Statement of Louis W. Breland regarding deannexation of property from Madison:
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Statement of Louis W. Breland
March 28, 2007

I have read with interest the news coverage of the past week regarding legislation to deannex privately owned land from the City limits of Madison. There is one principle fact that seems to be lost in the political debate, and one that I hope everyone would consider. This land is privately owned property. It is not owned by the City of Madison, the City of Huntsville or by the State Legislature. This is my private property. This privately owned land is an undeveloped field, not a shopping center. Currently, the City of Madison receives about $1850 per year in property tax, and Madison City schools get about $3750 per year in tax revenue from this field. Therefore, if the field is deannexed from the City of Madison, city government will not loose millions of dollars in revenue.

This deannexation issue is not about a fight between Madison and Huntsville, although some politicians want you to believe that. Every landowner in America should have the basic right to use their land to its best potential. I am attempting to develop a new retail life style center for North Alabama, and under current circumstances the greatest potential for success is to have this land deannexed from the City limits of Madison. This proposed new center is an economic development project that will be to everyone’s benefit, including people in Madison, Huntsville, Madison County, all surrounding counties and even folks in Tennessee. The entire project will be approximately a $500 million investment. It will generate 1500 jobs, construct an interstate ramp and create economic activity for the county and both cities.

It is very common today in Alabama and the Southeast for projects of this magnitude to have a public/private partnership to construct the necessary public infrastructure such as interstate ramps, public roads, water, sewer and other utilities. This was the case for the new Ross Bridge retail development in Jefferson County and it was necessary for projects such as Toyota, Mercedes and other large economic development projects.

Media reports have quoted some as calling this privately owned field, a “prime commercial site that has been in the City of Madison for forty years”. This field may be a prime commercial site at some point, but it has been in the City of Madison for forty years and still does not have commercial sewer service, commercial water service or commercial electric service on the property. All of which must be present for a site to be a “prime commercial site”. It has been almost twenty years since Interstate I 565 was opened, and still there are no ramps to access the interstate. This proposed retail life style center will not happen without interstate access. While this ramp/interstate access issue was discussed with the City of Madison, I am the one that initiated the Interstate Justification Study, and I am the one that paid the cost of the study, not Madison, not Madison County and not the State Department of Transportation. Bottom line, this privately owned field requires about $40 million of public infrastructure construction before it could be considered a “prime commercial site”.

My companies and I personally, have had a good relationship with the City of Madison. I live in Madison and have numerous businesses in Madison. We are very familiar with the finances of the City of Madison. Breland Companies has had several financial experts and bond counsel to examine the possibility of Madison financing the infrastructure needs of this project. These people have worked with me on large projects for 30 years. They all tell me that it is very doubtful that Madison can fund this project, and the City has not yet demonstrated to us that it has the financial ability to provide $40 million dollars for this project.

The Mayor stated publicly that the City has $30 million remaining with the City’s debt ceiling. The preliminary estimates on this proposed project require $40 million to build the infrastructure needed. Given these numbers, anyone can see that if Madison maxed out its debt limit funding would be only 75% of the requirement. Should Madison find an additional $10 million beyond it credit limit, my bond counsel advise me it would be extremely difficult, if not impossible for Madison to borrow any other money for roads, schools, improvements and other capital needs in the City’s current plan. It is not my desire to be responsible for a tax increase on the people of Madison. However, we have asked our lawyers and bond counsel to meet with City officials to look at this further.

The deannexation legislation is not an issue of some political intrigue, nor was it a plan to sneak this by anyone. The legislation has not been introduced, but it has been advertised for four weeks just as local legislation has always been advertised in the legal ads of the newspaper. It was advertised, at my request, by one of the Senators from the Madison County delegation, just as other local bills are advertised. The legislation was advertised so the public could voice their comments, just as other local bills are open for comment.

This is not an attack on the City of Madison. This is not precedent setting legislation, and there is deannexation legislation passed in almost every quadrennium of the Legislature. The Ross Bridge project mentioned earlier was made possible after the land was deannexed from Bessemer by local legislation passed by the Legislature. It is my understanding that property has been deannexed from the City of Huntsville by the landowner with the same local legislative remedy. Three of our local Senators were serving at that time and they must have been supportive of the landowner’s right to request deannexation then. My request is no different.

Again, the land specified in the legislation is a privately owned field. It is not a “prime commercial site” owned by the City of Madison. As the owner of private property, I want the best opportunity to develop a new retail life style center that everyone can enjoy and benefit from. The question is not whether this will be built in Madison city limits, but whether it will be built at all. The large commercial developers that work on such projects will not risk hundreds of millions of dollars on press conferences, emails, letters to legislators and promises. These projects are built where infrastructure exists, and after forty years this field is still lacking in all material infrastructure respects.

It is my hope that community leaders would not attempt to divide our community over this project, but work together to make this a reality for North Alabama.
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Bids opened by the Alabama Department of Transportation last week included a project to widen the entrance and exit ramps at Research Park Boulevard and Old Madison Pike.

The intersection improvements are part of the deal that helped land the Bridge Street project - a $200 million retail, residential and commercial complex - in the northwest corner of the intersection.

The improvements are needed to handle existing traffic and anticipated traffic growth from development in Thornton and Cummings research parks.
The ramps from Research Park Boulevard to Old Madison Pike that are now one lane will be widened to three lanes just past the curve, said Chris Lovoy, a project manager with Reed Contracting.

The ramps from Old Madison Pike to Research Park Boulevard will be widened from one lane to two lanes before reverting to one lane at Research Park Boulevard, Lovoy said.

The project also includes installing traffic signals at the ramps.
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Downtown high school set for renovations

This was an all black school back in the segregation days , now being
planned to become a downtown revitalizer for that area between the library
and Medical District. Just a short walk from the VBC and Big Spring

"Plans for the makeover of the aging building and 2.5-acre campus call for an auditorium/concert hall, a museum, multipurpose room, restaurant, music instruction halls, and several classrooms for activities such as tutoring, GED programs and small-business incubators.

The planned main entrance is a sprawling brick plaza with a sculpture and busts of the Tiger mascot and of educator William Hooper Councill. Gurley said the 53,000-square-foot building will be slightly larger than the old building but maintain the basic layout and many of the original features."
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this whole thing sounds iffy
I say the developer needs to pony up and quit playing games with Madison.
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By WENDY REEVES
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MADISON - Local developer Louis Breland said Wednesday his attempt to deannex 263 acres of his property from Madison is not an attack on the city but an attempt to find the best opportunity for a new retail development.

Breland asked state Sen. Lowell Barron, D-Fyffe, to draft and advertise legislation to deannex his property on Zierdt Road, just south of Interstate 565 from the Madison city limits. Madison city leaders have been upset about the move because of a proposed retail development on the site that will generate millions in sales tax revenue.

"The question is not whether this will be built in Madison city limits, but whether it will be built at all," Breland said.
Kirkindall said the potential revenue stream from Breland's project would allow the city to borrow what it needs for the project. He said the entire development will take about five years to complete and, if construction started tomorrow, it would be about 18 months before the first store would open.

However, he said the city has options it can use to make the payments on the borrowed money until the development is up and running full steam.

"Before we can make a decision on what options will be best for the city, we need to know how much they need and when they need it," Kirkindall said. "That's all the information we need."

Breland said he's asked his company lawyers and bond counsel to meet with city officials on the project. He described it as a $500 million development that will generate 1,500 jobs, construct an interstate ramp and create economic activity for the county, Madison and Huntsville.

In a written statement Wednesday, Huntsville Mayor Loretta Spencer refuted speculation that Huntsville encouraged Breland to deannex from Madison.

Last week, Huntsville City Council President Glenn Watson said it would be hard for Huntsville to come up with the estimated $40 million for the infrastructure to support such a large development.
"Griffith delays filing deannex bill
MONTGOMERY – State Sen. Parker Griffith, D-Huntsville, said today he will delay for at least a week filing a bill that would deannex 263 acres of commercial property from Madison.

Griffith said he believes officials from the City of Madison and the owner of the property, developer Louis Breland, are nearing an agreement. He is negotiating to build an estimated $500 million shopping center just south of Interstate 565.

Today was the first day the bill could be introduced in the Legislature.

“I’m going to hold off at least a week,” Griffith said before the Senate convened today. “I believe a negotiated settlement of this matter is very near. I’ve got my fingers crossed.”

The local bill was advertised by Sen. Lowell Barron, D-Fyffe, but Barron said he did it only as a favor to Breland and never intended to sponsor it.

Breland has sought to deannex his property off Zierdt Road from Madison, contending the city could not live up to its incentive pledges."

Bob Lowry, HSV Times
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long distance area shrinks(free area increases) this is good

More than 20-thousand other Alabama BellSouth customers will soon be free of those long distance fees when the phone carrier expands its local calling areas in Mobile, Baldwin, Washington, Madison and Morgan counties.
BellSouth informed the Public Service Commission today about the changes and commissioners approved the change. It goes into effect April 16th for the southern counties and May 7th for the northern counties.

Now it won't be long distance to call Decatur or Huntsville. Seems obvious
now, since the two cities are only separated by I-65
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^I had no idea it was considered long distance even today. Everyone I know uses cell phones.
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Huntsville Greenways, existing completed, and planned (the majority)

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9.6% growth since 2000 fueled mainlyby area newcomers
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Huntsville was the fastest-growing metro area in Alabama from 2000 to 2006, outpacing gains in the Birmingham, Montgomery and Mobile areas by more than 2 to 1, according to U.S. Census figures released Thursday.

"Don Bogie, director of the Center for Demographic Research at Auburn University Montgomery, said the Huntsville area has consistently drawn newcomers. "The migration figure looks strong. That indicates that it's perceived as a desirable location and people are continuing to come," he said.

"It's the migration number that's driving the growth in the metropolitan area."

The migration, or net gain of new residents, accounted for 70 percent of the Huntsville area's growth, Bogie said. By comparison, migration accounted for 48.2 percent of Alabama's 3.4 percent population gain over the period. Alabama's 2006 population was listed as 4.6 million, with 73,178 of those new residents moving in, Bogie said.

Birth and death rates also affect census numbers, but the net migration rate is the truest measure of population growth as a reflection of an area's economy, he said.

"When you see something that positive, it means the economy is doing well. Jobs are available, and people are finding work," Bogie said.

Brian Hilson, president and CEO of the Huntsville/Madison County Chamber of Commerce, said population gains in the Huntsville-Madison-Limestone area reflect the area's strong job growth.

"It's a very good sign that's a key to our economic future," Hilson said. "When we talk with companies that are considering growing here, whether it's expanding companies or prospective, almost invariably the question they ask is work-force availability. The growth helps not only existing employees but tells future employers this is a great place to be."

Hilson said area leaders have done a good job diversifying the economy, maintaining high quality-of-life standards and keeping cost-of-living expenses low compared with other parts of the country.

"Looking at the numbers is evidence we're achieving our goals," he said.

Madison County's population accounted for 304,307 residents in the two-county Huntsville MSA, and Limestone County accounted for 72,446 residents for growth rates of 9.9 percent and 10.3 percent, respectively, over the six-year period, Bogie said.

David Seibert, chairman of the Limestone County Commission, attributed much of Limestone's growth to the strong jobs market in the Huntsville area. "The draw for us is being a bedroom community," he said."
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This new school will really invigorate, NE HSV, Downtown, Five Points
and the Chase area over the mountain. Developers have stated that
they are waiting on this new school to begin major projects in this part of the city and county.
I would favor the Meridian St location

By STEVE CAMPBELLTimes Staff Writer [email protected]
System hopes to buy land in May, start work in January

The Huntsville school board is looking to buy land next month for a new Lee High School that would be completed by 2010.

At the board's meeting Thursday, system Finance Director Herbert Wheeler announced four possible sites for the new Lee:

U.S. 72 at Moores Mill Road;

Winchester Road near Moores Mill;

Meridian Street south of Quietdale Drive; and

U.S. 72 three miles east of Moores Mill.

The Meridian site received much of the board's attention because of its pros and cons.

The design for the Meridian plan calls for three sports fields at the current Lee site and a new campus west of the railroad tracks. The two areas would be connected by a crosswalk.

The crosswalk drew concerns from board members who questioned its safety. Superintendent Ann Roy Moore said trains use the tracks twice daily, and the crosswalk would get students across the tracks safely.

The board's other concern is the additional $2 million needed to buy land west of the tracks.

But the campus would be larger and wouldn't disrupt sports because field construction would be separate from school construction.

The main building also would be two stories, compared with three if a new Lee were built at its present site. Moore said two-story buildings are desirable in case the school had to be evacuated.

Another problem if the present site were used is that outdoor sports might have to be canceled for two years during construction, Wheeler said.

School officials hope to bid the project to building contractors by October and begin construction next January.
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I didn't realize Huntsville had so many greenways.
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With all the growth of Huntsville and Atlanta metros, we need to start lobbying to get that interstate built between us.
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With all the growth of Huntsville and Atlanta metros, we need to start lobbying to get that interstate built between us.
Yeah... ... you better start lobbying now, because interstate funding these days is pretty ridiculous. It's taken them over 20 years and they're still not done linking Birmingham and Memphis. Besides that, the state also has priorities of getting the Northern Beltline in Birmingham... and that doesn't include any projects in Mobile and/or the potential for the extension of I-85 beyond Montgomery. I think a Huntsville to Atlanta direct interstate connection is probably 30-40 years away at least. Atlanta is plenty large enough, but Huntsville isn't yet. Even if growth rates in Huntsville were to continue, it would be a while before that's justifiable... particularly with the amount of work on the ALDOT's plate right now.
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Yeah... ... you better start lobbying now, because interstate funding these days is pretty ridiculous. It's taken them over 20 years and they're still not done linking Birmingham and Memphis. Besides that, the state also has priorities of getting the Northern Beltline in Birmingham... and that doesn't include any projects in Mobile and/or the potential for the extension of I-85 beyond Montgomery. I think a Huntsville to Atlanta direct interstate connection is probably 30-40 years away at least. Atlanta is plenty large enough, but Huntsville isn't yet. Even if growth rates in Huntsville were to continue, it would be a while before that's justifiable... particularly with the amount of work on the ALDOT's plate right now.
I'm sure IF the I-85 extension ever get done, it would be before the HSV-ATL connection simply because it's not on the table yet..... it's almost as long as death row
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Looking at the growth figures, Huntsville and Limestone are economic engines in the state. You ought to give high priority to linking Huntsville with Atlanta. It's a win-win, not just for Huntsville and Atlanta, but for both states. Putting some wealth and development into NW Georgia and NE Alabama would really help. I really don't have a dog in it directly as I live NE of Atlanta, but it just seems a no-brainer.
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I'm sure IF the I-85 extension ever get done, it would be before the HSV-ATL connection simply because it's not on the table yet..... it's almost as long as death row
Hey, how about that Montgomery Outer Loop? Didn't they start work on it from I-85 east of Montgomery down to Vaughn Road and then just stopped work on it?

ALDOT, what's wrong? Can't you just let toll road operators come in and do the job? I'll pay a fee if it means roads being built sooner.
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