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Old Posted Mar 26, 2007, 11:58 PM
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I went to that meeting on Friday. The only bad news is that SKK wanted both sites, or neither. So that'll have to be hammered out over the next two months. I have to imagine he said that for leverage to get both sites.

If SKK does develop at least one of the site, he was very adamant about breaking ground this year, or no later than mid next year. Based on how fast L Street Lofts happen, it seems like he has the ability to do it as well. He said he does not want to be still working on the projects 2-4 years from now. From the concept rendering I saw, it looked about 6-8 stories.

From what they said, the projects most likely won't need a new EIR, just maybe a couple modifications for the SKK one since it will be denser. The Ravel one is around the same size as the previous one by Loftworks.

Also, in regard to the other two sites for the East End Gateway, they are hoping to have a DDA in place with Lambert Development within 6 months for site 4 at 16th and P for about 40 units, retail and underground parking.

Site 1 at 16th and L is going to be a mid-high rise, with Otto Construction the contractor. Details still being worked out though.

Lambert made an interesting comment when he spoke. He made mention that even though Aura and The Towers have been having problems and may not happen, it has shown lenders that there is a market for these type of projects and what people are willing to pay for them.

It sounded like they had a good beat on financing for the two projects.


I'm really excited about this. 16th Street is basically the boundary between Midtown and Downtown and these projects along some of the others, new or in the works, will really create a nice urban look and feel along 16th Street. As the center (R-H) is built-up then it's move out. Hopefully we'll see some similar development going towards Broadway but I doubt much will happen without some type of transportation improvement. Still I'm stoked.
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Thanks for the photos BrianSac

I would recommend posting them in a smaller size... these appear to be 4 times
to big for the screen. Try 800 x 532 pixels or 600 x 450 pixels like in the
first pic along the bike trail.

That area has been fenced off so long that I forgot that they were actually
going to build anything there.
My pleasure,

Thanks for the recommendations.
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2007, 1:48 AM
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I'm really excited about this. 16th Street is basically the boundary between Midtown and Downtown and these projects along some of the others, new or in the works, will really create a nice urban look and feel along 16th Street. As the center (R-H) is built-up then it's move out. Hopefully we'll see some similar development going towards Broadway but I doubt much will happen without some type of transportation improvement. Still I'm stoked.
I've really been excited for 16th street for years now, long before all the big projects came along in the CBD. There are a ton of projects in the hooper for one long continued stretch of urban street down 16th. There are already some nice pieces in place (minus the East End Complex), just need to connect the dots now. The 4 East End Gateway sites, Crystal Ice, Firestone Building, Unity Center, L16, old Young's Fireplace will all close the gaps. I just hope its sooner gather than later.

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Speaking of the Firestone building, whatever became of the plans for the refurb on that property. I walked past it the other day and its sad to see it wasting away for what is a primo piece of downtown real estate as a parking structure with a capacity of about 6 freakin cars.
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^I just met my new favorite bar tender this weekend. His name is Henry Deveer-White and he works at R15 3 nights a week. He's been in the bar business about 15 years. We got to talking and he's opening up the Irish bar in the old Firestone building in about "13 months" he said. He's talking to lawyers, architects, etc every day and moving full steam ahead. He said all of the retail space will go live simultaneously. I was pretty impressed with what he had to say.

So although we might not see contruction activity at the site right now, rest assured that preparations are well under way and continuing every day.

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Old Posted Mar 27, 2007, 5:33 AM
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In addition to the Irish bar, CPK, Fleming Steakhouse, and possibly Roy's will round out the building. I thought it was supposed to have broken ground by now, but guess not. As long as it's still moving forward, which it sounds like it is.
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The 4 East End Gateway, Crystal Ice, Firestone Building, Unity Center, L16, old Young's Fireplace will all close the gaps. I just hope its sooner gather than later.
Yeah, I wish I knew when these were going to break ground, especially, Crystal Ice.

Also, why haven't the Crocker Art People not begun their expansion?

Good news: Sutter seems to really be making progress. The area, next to Biba's restaurant building, has been demolished/cleared for the main women's and childrens hospital.
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I've really been excited for 16th street for years now, long before all the big projects came along in the CBD. There are a ton of projects in the hooper for one long continued stretch of urban street down 16th. There are already some nice pieces in place (minus the East End Complex), just need to connect the dots now. The 4 East End Gateway sites, Crystal Ice, Firestone Building, Unity Center, L16, old Young's Fireplace will all close the gaps. I just hope its sooner gather than later.
what's so absurd is that they painted on the building on R st. facing 16th, "just what midtown has been waiting for." Just how — long does Midtown have to wait!! It's bad enough it takes developers years in this city to break ground but some of them choose to be sadistic about it! I'm just waiting for some kid at the 16th st. light-rail stop to tag it since it still looks like —!
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Good news: Sutter seems to really be making progress. The area, next to Biba's restaurant building, has been demolished/cleared for the main women's and childrens hospital.
Heh. I grew up about two blocks from the Sutter "campus", back in the days when a Stop 'n Shop/Raley's shopping center occupied the block where the current hospital sits. I remember when that parking garage next to Biba was constructed, along with Sutter's power plant on 29th/Capitol. I used to pass by this location every day on my way to Sutter Middle School. It's somehow jarring to see a structure (even something so simple as a parking garage) that I once watched being built, being torn down for something even newer. Reminds me that I'm getting older...
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2007, 2:40 PM
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Also, why haven't the Crocker Art People not begun their expansion?

This was on the city council agenda last Tuesday...


5. Agreement/Contract: Crocker Art Museum Expansion and Renovation Project (CF61)

Location: 216 O Street (District 1)

Recommendation: Adopt a Resolution 1) authorizing the Crocker Art Museum Association (CAMA) to execute an agreement with Rudolph & Sletten, Inc. for pre-construction phase construction management services for the project in the amount of $183,308; and 2) authorizing the City Manager to execute a construction contract with Rudolph & Sletten, Inc. for public improvements in an amount not to exceed $1,850,000. Contact: Lial Jones, Director, Crocker Art Museum, (916) 264-5423; Cynthia Kranc, Facilities Manager, (916) 808-2258, General Services Department.



It sounds as if that long delayed project might finally be showing some signs of life...

We'll see how long it takes for construction to actually begin though.
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2007, 2:43 PM
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The brownstones are coming
East Coast icon offers urban chic on compact lots
By Jim Wasserman - Bee Staff Writer
Published 12:00 am PDT Tuesday, March 27, 2007
Story appeared in BUSINESS section, Page D1


Fifty-eight town houses are being built on 3 acres at 21st and U streets. Prices for the three-story, brownstone-style homes are projected from the mid-$400,000s to the $800,000s. Neighborhood amenities include a new Safeway and several restaurants.



Sacramento home builders are tapping that venerable icon of East Coast architecture -- the brownstone -- to stir sales for nearly 100 new three-story town houses coming to midtown.

They don't look like much now as construction begins. But as the new homes begin to sprout on vacant land in one of the city's oldest neighborhoods, builders say they'll evoke a classic brownstone ambience with their sturdy stone exteriors, second-story kitchens and living rooms and third-floor bedrooms.

The vertical, narrow homes are a key in the push for higher density housing in the region -- with up to 43 units per acre compared to the five or 10 per acre common in the area's suburbs -- and new examples of how in-fill projects are being used to turn the concept into reality.

"We were looking for something with urban cachet and it evolved very quickly into the brownstone concept," said Kevin Noell, partner in Metro Nova Communities.

Noell, a San Diego builder, and his development partners Tony Giannoni and Eleni Tsakopoulos-Kounalakis plan 58 brownstone-style homes on 3 acres at 21st and U streets in a project dubbed Tapestri Square. Three models are under construction.

None of the new Sacramento homes will be exact replicas of the brownstones that populate the streets in eastern cities like New York and, increasingly, some Western cities such as Portland, Ore. Neither do they share common walls, a standard feature of the homes that originated as multistory European row houses.

But they do mimic the narrow widths common to homes built in urban areas: The buildings at Tapestri Square range from 16 1/2 feet wide to 24 feet wide.

Tapestri Square is being built in an area with increasing shopping amenities. A Safeway grocery store and numerous restaurants are just blocks away; the Capitol is about a 15-minute walk from the project.

John Packowski, marketing principal of PHA Architects, said the idea for the buildings' look evolved as he walked past brownstones on the Upper West Side of New York City and later in Chicago.

"It's a modern adaptation of a traditional style," Noell said. "The verticality, the relatively narrow unit, is actually part of the ambience."

Most of the homes include the traditional walk-up to the main second-floor living area and the sitting stoops that give residents of brownstones a sense of neighborhood life.

Prices at Tapestri Square will range from the mid-$400,000s to the $800,000s for three-story homes ranging from 1,200 square feet to 2,600 square feet. The plan is to snag people downsizing from bigger single-family homes after their children are grown.

"That was the idea, to appeal to a somewhat older buyer who typically has an older, bigger home and furniture they don't want to part with. It can travel down with them," said Packowski, the architect.

About a mile away behind Trinity Cathedral at 27th and N streets, Sacramento-based Loftworks also is clearing ground to begin 32 three-story residences called Sutter Brownstones. The plan is to attract employees of nearby Sutter Hospital and others who "want to live more closely to the amenities the city is beginning to offer," said Mark Friedman, a Loftworks partner with Michael Heller.

Friedman hired the architectural firm LPA Sacramento Inc. and a Portland architect to blend older brownstone features and a more contemporary look for the town houses.

Tentative prices for the town houses, which range from 1,150 square feet to 1,700 square feet, are $415,000 to $650,000. The first units likely will be available at the end of November, Friedman said.

Both partnerships say the appeal of brownstone-style features will compete with proposed high-rise condo developments to the west in downtown Sacramento, including the Towers, Third Street and Capitol Mall, and Aura Condominiums at 601 Capitol Mall.

Analysts say the new housing is part of downtown Sacramento's long transition to an urban center with more for-sale homes, office buildings and entertainment offerings. Densities that range from about 20 per acre at Tapestri to 43 homes per acre at Sutter Brownstones also win praise -- and predictions of quick sales.

"The thing we're seeing is that 30 to 40 percent of the population seem to want what I refer to as walkable urbanism," said Christopher Leinberger, a fellow with the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C., and director of the University of Michigan's graduate real estate program.

Leinberger, who recently addressed the Downtown Sacramento Partnership about revitalizing the city's urban core, said there is always pent-up demand for such housing because too little has been built. That also makes it more expensive.

In Rancho Cordova, Atlanta-based Beazer Homes is giving the brownstone concept a slightly more suburban twist for its Capital Village development. The builder plans 248 brownstone-themed homes in a community of 800 houses. Some are three stories and others two stories, said Sacramento division President Brendan O'Neill.


He said the brownstone theme fits for the homes' vertical architectural features and tiny lots that place the homes three feet apart. That's to help comply with the region's push toward putting more of its newcomers onto less space, he said.

The models are nearly finished with grand opening scheduled in mid-April. Prices range from $304,000 to $382,000 for 1,365 square feet to 2,200 square feet.

As the brownstone theme is unveiled downtown and in Rancho Cordova, three-story residential units of all kinds are springing up across the metro area -- with plenty more to come, analysts say, as expensive land prices also push housing ever more vertical.

In West Sacramento, builders are marketing at least three new triple-story projects that bear some resemblance to those in midtown. Those include Sacramento-based Leonard Development's 25-home River's Side at Washington Square and Fairfield-based SBB Associates' 34-unit Harriet Lane town house development. Regis Homes of Sacramento also is building 104 three-story houses at its Lofts at Ironworks.

The three-story concept is spreading far beyond the Sacramento's urban core, as well. Chicago-based Kimball Hill Homes plans an unspecified number of three-story single-family houses at its 168-home Somesert infill project on Franklin Boulevard in south Sacramento.

"A lot of this is going back to the higher density to get better efficiency out of your land use," said Mike Paris, the builder's Sacramento division president. "We have to go vertical in order to do that."
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2007, 2:49 PM
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Take it for what its worth, but I was told on a recent private tour by one of the higher ups in management for the Crocker that they expected site work to begin in June. By the way much thanks to Rob and co at Sactown magazine for their sponsorship of the Ansel Adams exhibit. Make sure you check it out everyone!!!
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The brownstones are coming
East Coast icon offers urban chic on compact lots
By Jim Wasserman - Bee Staff Writer
Published 12:00 am PDT Tuesday, March 27, 2007
Story appeared in BUSINESS section, Page D1


Fifty-eight town houses are being built on 3 acres at 21st and U streets. Prices for the three-story, brownstone-style homes are projected from the mid-$400,000s to the $800,000s. Neighborhood amenities include a new Safeway and several restaurants.



Sacramento home builders are tapping that venerable icon of East Coast architecture -- the brownstone -- to stir sales for nearly 100 new three-story town houses coming to midtown.

They don't look like much now as construction begins. But as the new homes begin to sprout on vacant land in one of the city's oldest neighborhoods, builders say they'll evoke a classic brownstone ambience with their sturdy stone exteriors, second-story kitchens and living rooms and third-floor bedrooms.

The vertical, narrow homes are a key in the push for higher density housing in the region -- with up to 43 units per acre compared to the five or 10 per acre common in the area's suburbs -- and new examples of how in-fill projects are being used to turn the concept into reality.

"We were looking for something with urban cachet and it evolved very quickly into the brownstone concept," said Kevin Noell, partner in Metro Nova Communities.

Noell, a San Diego builder, and his development partners Tony Giannoni and Eleni Tsakopoulos-Kounalakis plan 58 brownstone-style homes on 3 acres at 21st and U streets in a project dubbed Tapestri Square. Three models are under construction.

None of the new Sacramento homes will be exact replicas of the brownstones that populate the streets in eastern cities like New York and, increasingly, some Western cities such as Portland, Ore. Neither do they share common walls, a standard feature of the homes that originated as multistory European row houses.

But they do mimic the narrow widths common to homes built in urban areas: The buildings at Tapestri Square range from 16 1/2 feet wide to 24 feet wide.

Tapestri Square is being built in an area with increasing shopping amenities. A Safeway grocery store and numerous restaurants are just blocks away; the Capitol is about a 15-minute walk from the project.

John Packowski, marketing principal of PHA Architects, said the idea for the buildings' look evolved as he walked past brownstones on the Upper West Side of New York City and later in Chicago.

"It's a modern adaptation of a traditional style," Noell said. "The verticality, the relatively narrow unit, is actually part of the ambience."

Most of the homes include the traditional walk-up to the main second-floor living area and the sitting stoops that give residents of brownstones a sense of neighborhood life.

Prices at Tapestri Square will range from the mid-$400,000s to the $800,000s for three-story homes ranging from 1,200 square feet to 2,600 square feet. The plan is to snag people downsizing from bigger single-family homes after their children are grown.

"That was the idea, to appeal to a somewhat older buyer who typically has an older, bigger home and furniture they don't want to part with. It can travel down with them," said Packowski, the architect.

About a mile away behind Trinity Cathedral at 27th and N streets, Sacramento-based Loftworks also is clearing ground to begin 32 three-story residences called Sutter Brownstones. The plan is to attract employees of nearby Sutter Hospital and others who "want to live more closely to the amenities the city is beginning to offer," said Mark Friedman, a Loftworks partner with Michael Heller.

Friedman hired the architectural firm LPA Sacramento Inc. and a Portland architect to blend older brownstone features and a more contemporary look for the town houses.

Tentative prices for the town houses, which range from 1,150 square feet to 1,700 square feet, are $415,000 to $650,000. The first units likely will be available at the end of November, Friedman said.

Both partnerships say the appeal of brownstone-style features will compete with proposed high-rise condo developments to the west in downtown Sacramento, including the Towers, Third Street and Capitol Mall, and Aura Condominiums at 601 Capitol Mall.

Analysts say the new housing is part of downtown Sacramento's long transition to an urban center with more for-sale homes, office buildings and entertainment offerings. Densities that range from about 20 per acre at Tapestri to 43 homes per acre at Sutter Brownstones also win praise -- and predictions of quick sales.

"The thing we're seeing is that 30 to 40 percent of the population seem to want what I refer to as walkable urbanism," said Christopher Leinberger, a fellow with the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C., and director of the University of Michigan's graduate real estate program.

Leinberger, who recently addressed the Downtown Sacramento Partnership about revitalizing the city's urban core, said there is always pent-up demand for such housing because too little has been built. That also makes it more expensive.

In Rancho Cordova, Atlanta-based Beazer Homes is giving the brownstone concept a slightly more suburban twist for its Capital Village development. The builder plans 248 brownstone-themed homes in a community of 800 houses. Some are three stories and others two stories, said Sacramento division President Brendan O'Neill.


He said the brownstone theme fits for the homes' vertical architectural features and tiny lots that place the homes three feet apart. That's to help comply with the region's push toward putting more of its newcomers onto less space, he said.

The models are nearly finished with grand opening scheduled in mid-April. Prices range from $304,000 to $382,000 for 1,365 square feet to 2,200 square feet.

As the brownstone theme is unveiled downtown and in Rancho Cordova, three-story residential units of all kinds are springing up across the metro area -- with plenty more to come, analysts say, as expensive land prices also push housing ever more vertical.

In West Sacramento, builders are marketing at least three new triple-story projects that bear some resemblance to those in midtown. Those include Sacramento-based Leonard Development's 25-home River's Side at Washington Square and Fairfield-based SBB Associates' 34-unit Harriet Lane town house development. Regis Homes of Sacramento also is building 104 three-story houses at its Lofts at Ironworks.

The three-story concept is spreading far beyond the Sacramento's urban core, as well. Chicago-based Kimball Hill Homes plans an unspecified number of three-story single-family houses at its 168-home Somesert infill project on Franklin Boulevard in south Sacramento.

"A lot of this is going back to the higher density to get better efficiency out of your land use," said Mike Paris, the builder's Sacramento division president. "We have to go vertical in order to do that."
I took this Sunday for 'all ya 'all. This must be one of the models. I want one of these!

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in regards to the brownstones article - this is one of the best idiot Bee comments in a long time....

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GREAT!!! MORE TRAFFIC!!!

Why can't our planning commissioners get it thru their heads, we need roads for these people to drive on before they build MORE housing."
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Docks Area Master Plan & Promenade Design

Please join the City of Sacramento- Economic Development Department, Walker Macy, and Wallace Roberts and Todd (WRT) as we present preliminary design options for the Promenade and refined land use plans for the Docks Area. A Master Environmental Impact Report (MEIR) is also being prepared for the Docks Area Master Plan and Promenade. This workshop will also act as an additional scoping meeting where additional environmental concerns that have not already been relayed may be expressed. Your continued involvement in our series of workshops to shape and influence the Docks Area is appreciated. Light refreshments will be served at this meeting.

Docks Area Master Plan & Promenade Design workshop

Date: Wednesday, April 18, 2007
Time: 6:00 p.m. - 9:00 p.m.
Location: California State Association of Counties (CSAC)
1020 11th Street, 2nd Floor, Sacramento, CA 95814
(11th & K Streets, above the Pyramid Brewery Company)

For questions regarding the meeting, please call (916) 808-7223.
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in regards to the brownstones article - this is one of the best idiot Bee comments in a long time....


the problem with the Bee is that it gets sent out to all the Hillbilly Methtopia's in the Central Valley and foothills where you wonder how people can even read.

I dig the Brownstone's though. And the location, location, location!! this neighborhood will definitely appreciate in value.
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Please join the City of Sacramento- Economic Development Department, Walker Macy, and Wallace Roberts and Todd (WRT) as we present preliminary design options for the Promenade and refined land use plans for the Docks Area. A Master Environmental Impact Report (MEIR) is also being prepared for the Docks Area Master Plan and Promenade. This workshop will also act as an additional scoping meeting where additional environmental concerns that have not already been relayed may be expressed. Your continued involvement in our series of workshops to shape and influence the Docks Area is appreciated. Light refreshments will be served at this meeting.

Docks Area Master Plan & Promenade Design workshop

Date: Wednesday, April 18, 2007
Time: 6:00 p.m. - 9:00 p.m.
Location: California State Association of Counties (CSAC)
1020 11th Street, 2nd Floor, Sacramento, CA 95814
(11th & K Streets, above the Pyramid Brewery Company)

For questions regarding the meeting, please call (916) 808-7223.


Talk, talk, talk................


Make a decison already. How many public workshops in regards to the riverfront/docks do you need????

It's no wonder the riverfront is still littered with weeds and empty beer cans. .

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Talk, talk, talk................


Make a decison already. How many public workshops in regards to the riverfront/docks do you need????

It's no wonder the riverfront is still littered with weeds and empty beer cans. .

Seems as if they are looking for something to delay or stop the project. It would not take much. Maybe the anti-growth people will find a threatened or endangered species on the site....just give THEM more time....maybe interest rates will go up or the economy will tank......then they will have another excuse. Sacramento, the "Can't Do City", "City of Puny Shoulders", "The Big Lazy"(borrowed from ozone), "The City that Always Sleeps".

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GREAT!!! MORE TRAFFIC!!!

Why can't our planning commissioners get it thru their heads, we need roads for these people to drive on before they build MORE housing."
Did you really expect anything different from a trout nut at 6:23 in the morning?
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Make a decison already. How many public workshops in regards to the riverfront/docks do you need????

It's no wonder the riverfront is still littered with weeds and empty beer cans. .
And THAT, my friend, is exactly what's wrong with the Yahoo's over in the I Street Palace! No one wants to stand up and take a firm, believeble stand. I blame Mayor Wishy-washy-what's-her-face and certain others on the city counsel and board of Sups for the loss of my hair from constantly pulling it out in frustration.

It would be a pleasant change to have fresh minds and forward thinkers than these hold-outs locked in their 60's and 70's mentality. Preservation of icons of the past, blending them with a 21st century Sacramento.


*sigh*
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