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Old Posted Mar 24, 2007, 8:16 PM
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Great news on the 2nd downtown apartment tower by Jupiter.

I think there's a lot of opportunity for condo developers to step into the apartment arena as the pace of condo sales slow but the rental market continues to tighten. One I'm thinking of in particular is the planned River North Center condo tower by Friedman and I believe Mesirow (on the west side of the same block as the Mariott Suites River North under construction and just north of the 353 N. Clark site). It makes so much sense to develop that project as apartments - the location is great - especially with the conversion to condos of 400 N LaSalle, and the coming boom in office space to that area of River North, the project is just screaming to be reprogrammed to a rental tower...
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2007, 8:21 PM
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Great news. By the way, 108-116 is a vacant lot.
Pretty small site for all that... it could be pretty tall.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2007, 8:35 PM
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155 N. Wacker

Just an open question on 155 N. Wacker - do we have an accurate height? I had thought we were looking at 635' but then it started being referred to in the media as a 46-story tower (down from 48 I believe). However, I'm not sure that was actually a real decrease, as perhaps something was going on with the first couple levels or mechanical levels, mechanical penthouse, etc....
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2007, 8:58 PM
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Reference to post #1806:
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?post_date=2007-03-24&id=24357

I have a feeling that SCB will be the one to do this project.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2007, 9:12 PM
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I know scb is desinging the 49 story tower in the loop...Does anyone know the hieght of this tower in feet? I remember this tower was orignally 44 stories and 490ft.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2007, 9:29 PM
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Edit, now that I think about it, you must be able to get through already. The impound lot is east of where Field goes underneath Lower Wacker. How would anyone be able to get to the lot if they didn't go past that intersection. I think the city must have moved the boundaries of the impound lot back, as the fence that separates the impound lot from the River Walk has a section removed so that LSE residents can get to the River Walk.
Yes, that's correct. I was unfortunately down there the other night...

In any case, the arch in the original plan was kind of confusing. I was never sure if it led to an actual road or was just for pedestrian access. The newer drawings clearly show an overlook into the park and Field Blvd behind the next tower, though, so I personally think the arch could serve a very important role as a pedestrian gateway through the development and toward Grant Park. I would like to a modern version of it built into this new building.

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Old Posted Mar 25, 2007, 10:24 AM
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Another thought is that Magellan seems to be leaning toward the Megaproject model instead of the many smaller towers model per the SOM plan. This is putting the cart way before the horse, but supposing this next tower is a success like Aqua, I could see them combining the sites right on LSD to produce the biggest bang in the whole project. That could easily result in another JHC / Trump-sized building, and all of you who think CS is looking lonely will have the balanced river gateway you've been longing for...
now I know that LSE isn't particularly the greatest example of urban street design.... but if they start to combine any more towers like that, it could really start to turn into a towers-in-the-park situation. In that amount of space, and combining mulitple towers into single mega towers, it seems like they would end up with a lot of empty space around each tower, unless they built some long extensive bases for them... but I'm not sure how well that would work.
     
     
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Over at the Yo somebody visited the sales center of SoNo and just posted pics of the model. This thing's gonna look nice..
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My sources have given the building a thumbs up. Trvlr70, what's your opinion, or have you not yet seen the design?
No, I haven't seen the design. But I've heard that it will be huge and it will have great views because it is replacing three buildings on the master plan. My source tried to get the architect, but they didn't give it up. They only said it was a major "starchitect" that had not done a building in Chicago yet. They also said there will be a 5-star hotel that is currently not in Chicago.

Of course, my mind immediately jumped to Sir Norman Foster.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2007, 6:19 PM
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No, I haven't seen the design. But I've heard that it will be huge and it will have great views because it is replacing three buildings on the master plan. My source tried to get the architect, but they didn't give it up. They only said it was a major "starchitect" that had not done a building in Chicago yet. They also said there will be a 5-star hotel that is currently not in Chicago.

Of course, my mind immediately jumped to Sir Norman Foster.
^ Dude, this is EXCITING
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Of course, my mind immediately jumped to Sir Norman Foster.
with all of the hints that have been dropped about this one for months now, i thought it was common knowledge on here that arquitectonica is designing this one.
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2007, 6:34 PM
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with all of the hints that have been dropped about this one for months now, i thought it was common knowledge on here that arquitectonica is designing this one.
Does Arquitectonica have a noteworthy architect who hasn't built in the city before? If not, then it's not them.
     
     
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Does Arquitectonica have a noteworthy architect who hasn't built in the city before? If not, then it's not them.
No, its through Architectonica. I can't say any more than that.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 25, 2007, 9:10 PM
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Not sure if this is worth putting here, but since Kenosha is technically part of Chicago-land I found it somewhat relevent. . . maybe I'll start a seperate thread in the Midwest sub-forum. . .

Abbott will unveil plan for new site
3/24/07 - Kenosha News
Pleasant Prairie to hear proposal for site Monday

When Abbott Laboratories' property in Pleasant Prairie is fully developed, the campus will include 3.5 million-square-feet of office, research and manufacturing space in a development a village official likens to a college campus.

Abbott will present conceptual plans for their approximately 500-acre site to the Pleasant Prairie Plan Commission Monday, seeking to have the property rezoned to allow the planned development.

Despite the move to rezone the land, Abbott still has no timeline for building on the property, saying only that it is readying the site to accommodate future expansion, according to Abbott spokesman Jonathon Hamilton.

When the development is complete, Abbott projects its value will be $1.2 billion, said Village Administrator Michael Pollocoff. That compares to a total current assessed value for the entire village of Pleasant Prairie of $2.4 billion, $600 million of that attributed to LakeView Corporate Park.

Pollocoff said the planned development zoning agreement to be unveiled at the Plan Commission meeting Monday is the result of more than two years of work on the site.

The planned development zoning district, which must be accepted by the plan commission and formally adopted by the village board, is tailored specifically for the property.

Village staff worked with architects and planners from Abbott to devise an overall zoning district for the land that lays out roads, buildable areas, open space and conservation areas, along with a guide for what types of buildings and business uses will be allowed on the site. The 140-page document spells out everything from the acceptable building designs to allowable delivery hours.

Abbott also owns an adjacent 40 acres in the town of Bristol that is expected to be part of the overall development. Bristol Administrator Randy Kerkman said the town and Kenosha County planners plan to adapt Pleasant Prairie's zoning once the village's process is complete.

The village's goal in creating the special zoning district is to ensure the property - a valuable tract bounded to the north and south by county highways with interstate access - will be developed as a high-quality medical industry research and development site whether or not Abbott is the future builder.

"Everyone says 'What happens if Abbott doesn't come?" Pollocoff said. "Well, then we still have this (zoning in place)."

Still, he said, he is confident that Abbott or an associated pharmaceutical-medical industry company will build the campus. "All I can tell you is that given this level of work that they've done ... we believe they have every intention of building here."

Like Abbott Park in Lake County, Pollocoff said he expects the site to develop slowly over years, perhaps decades.

The site is being designed to accommodate 12,000 employees in a campus of glass, steel and masonry office and research facilities, along with manufacturing facilities. Although heavy manufacturing will not be permitted on the site, Pollocoff said, up to 1.4 million of the 3.5 million-square-feet of building space can be manufactured under the proposed zoning agreement.

Maps of the site show an oval roadway linked by gated entries to the west frontage road and from Highway Q. Pollocoff said the buildings, four of them up to 12-stories tall, will likely be clustered around the interior of that roadway.

The exact number and layout of buildings expected has not been determined, Pollocoff said. About 40 percent of the property will be devoted to open space.

That oval campus will be bisected by a long, natural open area, with four man-made lakes on the campus. The buildings will look out on the open space. "They are very conscious of creating a visually attractive place to be," Pollocoff said.

In addition to the main campus, the planned development would allow other types of business development on several parcels fronting Highway Q or the frontage road that are outside the gated ring road. Those sites would likely be developed, either by Abbott themselves or by outside developers, as shopping, hotel and restaurant areas that could serve the campus and other people in the area.

The property also includes a site for a future fire station, with Abbott agreeing to donate property for the station on Highway Q. Pollocoff said that future station may be operated as a joint station for both Pleasant Prairie and Bristol.

Pollocoff said the site is designed to have minimal traffic impact on the surrounding area, with the main entrance off the frontage road.

The village and the Wisconsin Department of Transportation are rebuilding the frontage road as part of their redevelopment plans for the area, a road plan that predates Abbott's interest in the land. However, Pollocoff said, the village will not spend additional money extending sewer or water for the development until Abbott commits to building there.

The plan commission will meet at 5 p.m. Monday at the Pleasant Prairie Village, Hall, 9915 39th Ave.
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So are we talking a potential 1000'-er? This is exciting.
     
     
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Pleasant Prairie to hear proposal for site Monday
^ Nice to see the highrises and the economic investment, but another ho-hum suburban office park just fails to excite..
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So are we talking a potential 1000'-er? This is exciting.

Hmm. . . doesn't look like you read the article. . . I'll forgive you for that though. . .
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No, its through Architectonica. I can't say any more than that.
Sorry Shawn to be an idiot, but I'm a bit confused by what you mean. Do you mean that Architectonica is the architect or not? I'm guessing you mean yes, but I'd like to be certain. (IE through = "going with" or through = "they've killed that relationship")

The suspense is really growing on this one... It doesn't help that roughly 1/2 of this board appears to have inside information on this tower that the rest of us lack!
     
     
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Do we know when they are going to go public with the design?
     
     
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I didn't see this one on the rundown list. The paper version of this article had a rendering, but the electronic version didn't.

Hold sought on Cedar development

March 22, 2007
By FELICIA DECHTER Staff Writer

Before a demolition permit and a developer's plans for a 20-story hotel are approved for the site of the historic Cedar Hotel, 1112-1118 N. State St. "a sharing of the project with the broader community," should occur, says 42nd ward alderman-elect Brendan Reilly.

On March 7, developers applied for a demolition permit with the city on the property, yet Reilly said, "At a minimum, the developer needs to share information with the neighborhood and address concerns."

Neighbors and preservationists also say the project--which could go before the city's Plan Commission in April--should be deferred until Reilly takes office in May.

M Development in December filed a Planned Development application to build a "boutique" hotel with 150-200 guest rooms, a restaurant and limited-meeting space. The State Street frontage will include the restaurant and hotel lobby. A ballroom/banquet facility will not be included as it is will not be a convention hotel, according to principal Jeffrey Shapack.

The development was designed to incorporate the Cedar's existing brick and terra-cotta masonry façade, and both the facade and current setback will remain as is, and the plaza/setback will be enhanced with new landscaping, Shapack said.

"We have had numerous meetings with residential and business neighbors and have received positive responses to the proposed development," Shapack said. "We feel the project is ready to go before the Plan Commission and anticipate being on the April agenda."

Reilly said at the end of his campaign he met with a number of residents concerned about parking, traffic flow impact, and the height of the structure. He wants the developer to do a better job sharing information and seeking neighbors input. He'd also like to see the developer put together an informational packet.

Reilly, who will be sworn into office on May 21, said he hopes to talk with Alderman Burt Natarus, 42nd, about the project.

"I would hope the alderman would be interested in working with the alderman-elect to make sure the impacted folks feel better about it," he said.

The Cedar Hotel is a contributing building in the Gold Coast Historic District, on the National Register of Historic Places, but it has not been landmarked by the city. It is orange-rated in the Chicago Historic Resources Survey, meaning it possesses historical significance and is subject to a 90-day delay when a demolition permit is applied for.

Architects Rissman and Hirschfeld began the Cedar's construction in 1924, and its architectural style is listed as, "baroque, classical" on the city's Web site.

M Development--which also owns the Esquire Theater, Papa Milano, and Three Arts Club properties--was also seeking an upzoning of the property, and on Monday, Alderman Burt Natarus, 42nd, said that upzone was going through and that he supports the plan.

"I'm very much interested in getting rid of that eyesore," Natarus said, adding the hotel has "questionable activities." Natarus said people are worried about parking with the new plan, but he's mainly concerned because the Cedar is a source of crime, noise, motorcycles, and "everything else."

The two, 4 a.m. taverns with beer gardens the building houses don't help much either, he said.

"It's a very bad building," Natarus said.

Also supporting the plan is the board of the 20 E. Cedar Condominiums. Board president Larry Selander said: "We think it would be a good use for the property and enhance the neighborhood," adding that the parking issues in the area have been there a "long, long time."

Zoning does not require parking for hotels unless large meeting spaces are included, Shapack said, and hotel management will use valet parking services.

Yet not everyone feels that way. Neighbors are also calling for a decision on the property to be held off until Reilly takes office.

According to Coleen Blake, a Washington Square Association board member, her group is "disappointed," the project is being "pushed through so quickly."

"This matter should be deferred until Alderman-elect Brendan Reilly takes office," Blake said. "On February 27, the residents of the 42nd Ward clearly voted for change, and it is grossly unfair to see so many projects rammed through before our new alderman takes office."

Preservation Chicago is also calling for a deferment. The organization's vice president, Michael Moran, said any decisions on the property should wait until after May 21, when Reilly takes office. Preservation Chicago is not opposing the demolition of the rear portion of the Cedar, yet it does insist that the facade be preserved and its historic elements--which were recently removed--restored, and that the public space in front of the Cedar continue to serve as a cafe or other establishment.

Moran added it's "especially inappropriate," for the plan to go before the Plan Commission before Reilly has a chance to review the project and discuss it with his constituents. The group also is asking for the full 90-day hold on the demolition permit.

"There is no reason for the Department of Planning and Development to ram this project through the Plan Commission," said Moran, who met with Reilly last week. "Likewise, there is no reason for Alderman Natarus to rush this project through. These luxury rooms can wait for approval until after May 21st, when alderman-elect Reilly takes office."

According to Connie Buscemi, spokesman for the city's Department of Planning and Development, as of Monday, it had "not been decided yet," whether or not the proposal will go before the city's Plan Commission in April. The demolition permit application, she added, is being reviewed under the demolition delay ordinance.
     
     
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