CHICAGO: boom rundown - everything over 12 floors. v4 - Page 77

Cbautz · #**1521** Posted **Mar 11, 2007, 9:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by SevenSevenThree

I was thinking about the lot south of the NBC tower and started to remember that, what I think was fantastic, vision project I saw awhile back. I think the name was Cityfront Plaza. Has there ever been a time when a vision project, that had no plans for proposal, ever seen the light of day and built? I love this tower so much (along with Dearborn Tower) and refuse to give up hope that it might one day become reality.

Here's an image just in case someone hasnt seen it. Doubtful but whatever:

Btw, who was the architect?

From what I know. This was a competition for a tower holding approx 500 housing units and a 200 room boutique hotel. I don't know that particular design featured above, but at the very end the two top schemes were from Helmet Jahn and SOM (I don't have pictures). For some reason the project went dead. Its an exciting site and it will be developed as a landmark building in the near future but by who? and How?

Chitown · #**1522** Posted **Mar 11, 2007, 10:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by SamInTheLoop

Here's what actually makes it nonsense: When people say things like "new york style budget", I think what they're referring to is budgets that are doable because of new york style rents. However, this is only half the equation - what they overlook in this line of reasoning is that new york buildings (in addition to acheiving new york rents) also have to deal with new york style construction costs........in the end it's mostly a wash, so the quality of architecture has nothing to do with it...

And, perhaps more importantly, New York style land costs.

VivaLFuego · #**1523** Posted **Mar 11, 2007, 10:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

^ It's worse than Printers Corner. I'm hoping there will be a redesign of that thing, or at least hopefully this is just a very preliminary rendering.

Its only redeeming quality is the fact that it replaces a parking lot

Basically. I'd favor just about any improvement over a surface parking lot (aside maybe from just a huge parking garage). The West Loop desperately needs more residents, and if this + RD659 + the huge Fifield development to the north all get built, we're talking 3000+ new residents that could actually provide a critical mass for significant retail, and then hopefully a snowball effect of increasing demand further and getting some true skyscrapers and more mixed uses. Considering the sorry state of the West Loop today, I wouldn't fight against this project.

VivaLFuego · #**1524** Posted **Mar 11, 2007, 10:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by chicubs111

Sorry..I just keep finding stuff...lol..

Luxury Condos Rise In Chicago's Gold Coast

By Kelly Sheehan, Online News Editor

MARCH 01, 2007 -- Chicago -- The Prime Group Inc., a Chicago-based real estate developer and operator, is building Ten East Delaware, a luxury condominium building in Chicago's affluent Gold Coast neighborhood. The 121-unit, $124-million complex broke ground this week and is slated for completion in mid 2009.......
Reschke said that Lucien Lagrange has designed the building with a "little bit of a European and Polynesian flair, circa 1920."

Polynesian? circa 1920?

SevenSevenThree · #**1525** Posted **Mar 11, 2007, 10:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Cbautz

From what I know. This was a competition for a tower holding approx 500 housing units and a 200 room boutique hotel. I don't know that particular design featured above, but at the very end the two top schemes were from Helmet Jahn and SOM (I don't have pictures). For some reason the project went dead. Its an exciting site and it will be developed as a landmark building in the near future but by who? and how?

Hmm. Interesting. Thanks.

What do you mean by how, though?

EDIT: Would anyone happen to have images those schemes from Helmet Jahn and SOM?

Alliance · #**1526** Posted **Mar 11, 2007, 10:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by SevenSevenThree

Here's an image just in case someone hasnt seen it. Doubtful but whatever:

Btw, who was the architect?

That was Goettsch Partners, Inc. Cityfront Center Plaza...the renderings are still on their website.

Tom In Chicago · #**1527** Posted **Mar 12, 2007, 1:17 AM**

My old man came down with the camera (Panasonic Lumix DMC-TZ1) we bought him for X-mas and we took some construction photos. . . the weather was wonderful albeit a little hazy at times. . . here are a few shots from our outing. . .

MoMo

Kingsbury Plaza

30 West Oak

50 East Chestnut

The Streeter

ardecila · #**1528** Posted **Mar 12, 2007, 1:27 AM**

Yup, it was Goettsch.

Anyways, where is this Catalyst project gonna go? Is it taking the place of the "618-630 West Washington" project, at the NE corner of Washington/Desplaines? That had a Lagrange design, but it was better and glassier than this. Emporis doesn't list a developer for that project, so I don't know if they are the same or not. However, the earlier project was office.

the urban politician · #**1529** Posted **Mar 12, 2007, 2:24 AM**

^ Does anybody know what kind of cladding will be used for this building?

SamInTheLoop · #**1530** Posted **Mar 12, 2007, 5:24 AM**

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Originally Posted by Chitown

And, perhaps more importantly, New York style land costs.

Exactly - I was going to add that as well. If NY construction costs are twice as much as Chicago's (just making this up for sake of argument), then NY Land prices could be anywhere from 5-10 times that of Chicago (probably more in some cases).......

SamInTheLoop · #**1531** Posted **Mar 12, 2007, 5:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by ardecila

Yup, it was Goettsch.

Anyways, where is this Catalyst project gonna go? Is it taking the place of the "618-630 West Washington" project, at the NE corner of Washington/Desplaines? That had a Lagrange design, but it was better and glassier than this. Emporis doesn't list a developer for that project, so I don't know if they are the same or not. However, the earlier project was office.

Actually, the earlier Lagrange-designed project (if we're thinking of the same one it had a very irregular recessed-bacony pattern throughout the facade) was residential (don't know if rental or condo). I remember the developer being listed as Cornerstone something or other......

SamInTheLoop · #**1532** Posted **Mar 12, 2007, 5:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

^ Does anybody know what kind of cladding will be used for this building?

Don't know, but I find it very humorous that the ads in the Tribune for this one always stress "modern" in some way - see this sunday's tribune ad...
Modern - huh? Also, to be honest the new renderings don't have me liking this one any more than before (which was very little).......however, I always like added density, of course...

SamInTheLoop · #**1533** Posted **Mar 12, 2007, 5:32 AM**

Don't some of these condo tower names get worse and worse......I mean, Catalyst?? I was really rolling my eyes after hearing that one.....

Pandemonious · #**1534** Posted **Mar 12, 2007, 5:33 AM**

10 E Delaware:

Looks like pre-cast panels (IMO, even if they managed to clad this thing in actual terra cotta.. it would still suck). That building just plain sucks. They didn't even try with the mechanical penthouse.. what a cop-out. Yawn. This building reminds us that we certainly haven't completely ended the total shit that has been going up in the northern section of downtown. There is simply nothing redeeming about this building.

Edit: eew.. this is by Lucien Lagrange... how craptastic A "Modern Classic" my ass..

AJphx · #**1535** Posted **Mar 12, 2007, 10:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by ardecila

like the Childs proposal.

Childs proposal? Did you mean the Smith+Gill project, or are you talking about something else?

Frankie · #**1536** Posted **Mar 12, 2007, 11:39 AM**

Hey Steely quick question why isn't 353 N Clark listed as under contruction on the boom rundown list? Is there some doubt to as if really is under construction. Also shouldn't 10 E Delaware and 150 E Ontario both be listed under site/prep demo as both have had demolition work or site prep occur at their sites.

Pandemonious · #**1537** Posted **Mar 12, 2007, 1:29 PM**

^353 N Clark doesn't actually have any foundation work began yet. There is equipment on site, but seems to be just sitting there for now.

SamInTheLoop · #**1538** Posted **Mar 12, 2007, 1:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by AJphx

Childs proposal? Did you mean the Smith+Gill project, or are you talking about something else?

Perhaps the newly rumored SOM supertall to be announced this year??

Steely Dan · #**1539** Posted **Mar 12, 2007, 2:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Hey Steely quick question why isn't 353 N Clark listed as under contruction on the boom rundown list? Is there some doubt to as if really is under construction. Also shouldn't 10 E Delaware and 150 E Ontario both be listed under site/prep demo as both have had demolition work or site prep occur at their sites.

i was out all weekend, so give me a day or two to catch up with this thread. folks were posting like mad in this thread over the last two days!

chicubs111 · #**1540** Posted **Mar 12, 2007, 2:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Pandemonious

^353 N Clark doesn't actually have any foundation work began yet. There is equipment on site, but seems to be just sitting there for now.

Someone posted a picture a couple of pages back with a caison in the ground so that would be enough to qualify as underconstruction.