SAN FRANCISCO | Projects: Under Construction, Approved, and Proposed - Page 29

BTinSF · #**561** Posted **Feb 9, 2007, 3:37 AM**

Er, what's happening at 177 Fremont? Demolition will kind of ruin the mini-park next to and behind it.

Regarding 829 Folsom:

From the Planning Dept.:

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829 FOLSOM STREET - south side between 4th and 5th Streets, a through lot to Shipley Street; Lot 091 in Assessor's Block 3752. Request for Conditional Use authorization under Planning Code Sections 157, 207.5, 263.11, and 271 to construct an 85-foot-tall, nine-story building exceeding bulk limits, for a mixed-use development with up to 70 dwelling units, up to 5,000 gross square feet of ground floor retail commercial space, and a 62-space parking garage exceeding accessory amounts. A rear yard modification is sought under Section 134(e) to provide rear yard open space within an inner court and on a 7th floor setback of 10-15 feet along Shipley Street.

Sounds to me like they are building something very like Symphony Towers (but shorter--ST is 13 stories).

By the way, did you happen to pass SOMA Grand? Last fall it looked like they were clear a lot across Mission St. Anything doing there?

Reminiscence · #**562** Posted **Feb 9, 2007, 5:02 AM**

177 Fremont? Isnt that site of that 800' building they just announced, or plan to announce?

BTinSF · #**563** Posted **Feb 9, 2007, 6:46 AM**

^^^Oh, yeah:

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Some of the tallest building proposals include a 1,200-foot-tall tower at 50 First St., which famed architect Renzo Piano is in line to design, a building of 850 feet proposed for 350 Mission St., and a building as high as 800 feet discussed for 177-187 Fremont St. Another application has come in for constructing a 675-foot building at 2 New Montgomery St. An international competition is also under way to design the new Transbay Terminal and an adjacent tower on city land as high as 1,200 feet that could become one of the tallest buildings on the West Coast.

Well, goodbye mini-park (at least for a while).

briankendall · #**564** Posted **Feb 9, 2007, 9:55 AM**

I thought the mini park was deeded to 199 Fremont St. Thats the tower that you enter from an alleyway like entrance on Fremont. 177-83 are the two buildings that Botoxic took. I think it just includes those two buildings and not the mini-park. Its not a very big site at all. Definitely a slim 800' tower there.

Reminiscence · #**565** Posted **Feb 9, 2007, 7:55 PM**

To my knowledge, briankendall is right. The site is limited to those two small buildings. However, that site will put that tower literally right next to the Transbay Terminal, which may or may not be a problem. As for the park, it will certainly be affected, but I dont think they're going to wipe it off the map, if anything they should make it larger.

Did anyone actually see any demolition going on here, or a notice of some kind notifing that something is planned? Seems to me like its way way too early for them to even annouce something at this time.

mSeattle · #**566** Posted **Feb 9, 2007, 9:29 PM**

SF is crazy. wow!

briankendall · #**567** Posted **Feb 11, 2007, 10:12 AM**

When I went by it there was no notices up about any project there. I think there is just some discussion at this point. The only thing I saw is I think the Webcor construction office for 301 Mission is in the 177 Fremont storefront.

Reminiscence · #**568** Posted **Feb 12, 2007, 2:29 AM**

Right. Thats what I expected. As far as I know, 177 Fremont is just that, a proposal. Outside of that article posted a few days ago, I havent heard anything else regarding it.

CardinalStudent · #**569** Posted **Feb 20, 2007, 10:57 PM**

From Feb. 16th

Arterra

631 Folsom

One Rincon Hill

The Infinity

Millennium Tower

555 Mission

Ritz Carlton Residences

InterContinental Hotel

SoMa Grand

Argenta

Symphony Towers

800 Block Van Ness

Polk & Geary

The Hayes SF

Foundry Square I

BTinSF · #**570** Posted **Feb 21, 2007, 1:34 AM**

^^^Thanks ever so much for including the smaller projects I've asked about. They may not be big and pretty but since they are in my "hood" and I'll be walking past them every day when I get back, they matter as much to me as the tall guys.

Reminiscence · #**571** Posted **Feb 21, 2007, 2:26 AM**

Superb pictures, absolutely outstanding. All the projects are coming along very nicely. I see they've added the brace for the top of the first Infinity tower, and that they've reached street level for the second Infinity tower. The glass on Intercontinental looks sleeker and sharper every time theres an update. Millenium still going pretty slow, but we're getting there. And One Rincon still changing every time I see it, very very nice. Plus all the small projects are making nice progress.

BTinSF · #**572** Posted **Feb 21, 2007, 3:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by Reminisence

all the small projects are making nice progress.

Except, curiously enough, The Hayes. That one seems like it's really going up slowly. Foundry Square I has been just about topped out since thy've put a couple floors on The Hayes--and FS I is taller.

PS: That Intercontinental is one sexy building!

Reminiscence · #**573** Posted **Feb 21, 2007, 3:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by BTinSF

Except, curiously enough, The Hayes. That one seems like it's really going up slowly. Foundry Square I has been just about topped out since thy've put a couple floors on The Hayes--and FS I is taller.

PS: That Intercontinental is one sexy building!

Oh yes, they've outdone themselves with Intercontinental, it actually looks better than in the rendering, in my opinion.

Sadly, I havent been able to monitor progess too well on many of these projects, even the major ones. Its even worse now that I'm in Chicago, which is why I usually get excited when people post pictures updating progress going on around the city. I'll be able to see them first hand in Mid-March though

CardinalStudent · #**574** Posted **Feb 21, 2007, 5:15 AM**

The Hayes SF posted a schedule on the fence. I don't remember the details exactly, but I think they are aiming for 2 floors/month... topped out around April maybe?

San Frangelino · #**575** Posted **Feb 21, 2007, 2:57 PM**

888 Seventh Street http://www.liveat888.com/ I think is worthy of an update as well. Sadly, this is the best image I could get online.

Also for those unaware; The nearby "Potrero Projects" website has been expanded. The project with the Whole Foods at the bottom.http://www.thepotrero.com/

tyler82 · #**576** Posted **Feb 24, 2007, 9:17 PM**

The thing that bothers me about some of these new multi- use developments is that some of the retail vendors on street level can be very chucky cheesified.
Take, for example, the cafes and restaurants around the Moscone/ yerba buena area and third and folsom. There is a cheap, unauthentic feel to some of these places with their neon signs and suburban chain store look that makes the area really boring.
Maybe it's that a lot of the people who live here are "new money" who lack class and sophistication and their neighborhoods reflect that.
Hopefully these new developments will bring new and unique shops restaurants and soul to the city instead of the same old Cold Stone Creamery types. Otherwise the area will be inhabited by walking zombies and turn into another *gasp* Marina district Lombard Street.

botoxic · #**577** Posted **Feb 25, 2007, 2:05 AM**

I ran several errands today in areas that afforded me some nice SF skyline views, so I took the ol' camera along:

Dolores Park
Look carefully to spot SoMa Grand, Intercontinental, Infinity, and One Rincon:

Davies Medical Center

Corona Heights:

kenratboy · #**578** Posted **Feb 25, 2007, 2:15 AM**

Great update!!!

tyler82 · #**579** Posted **Feb 25, 2007, 4:42 AM**

You can also see the Ritz Carlton in this pic

Dolores Park
Look carefully to spot SoMa Grand, Intercontinental, Infinity, and One Rincon:

BTinSF · #**580** Posted **Feb 25, 2007, 7:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by tyler82

The thing that bothers me about some of these new multi- use developments is that some of the retail vendors on street level can be very chucky cheesified.
Take, for example, the cafes and restaurants around the Moscone/ yerba buena area and third and folsom. There is a cheap, unauthentic feel to some of these places with their neon signs and suburban chain store look that makes the area really boring.
Maybe it's that a lot of the people who live here are "new money" who lack class and sophistication and their neighborhoods reflect that.
Hopefully these new developments will bring new and unique shops restaurants and soul to the city instead of the same old Cold Stone Creamery types. Otherwise the area will be inhabited by walking zombies and turn into another *gasp* Marina district Lombard Street.

Well, I live in a "mixed use" building. On the ground floor is a Peet's Coffee, a Books Inc., a Max's Cafe, a sushi restaurant, a mom/pop deli, a florist, a UPS store and a movie theater. That mix probably tells you the building but I see nothing wrong with it and I have had some familiarity with efforts to lease the retail space over the years. I know the management prefers interesting independent merchants, but what are they supposed to do if nobody like that wants to rent vacant space? There are only so many great independent retailers wanting to open up at any one time. And no neighborhood wants a bunch of vacant store fronts. So better another Quiznos and Starbuck's than no retail and blank walls or grafittied up window glass along the street.

By the way, maybe I'm an unsophisticated rube with no class, but I love Yerba Buena. I think it's turned out great and should get better with time, especially when the final bit of it, the Mexican Museum and possibly another highrise on the 3rd/Mission corner, is put in place.