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Old Posted Jan 29, 2007, 11:28 PM
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that's a pretty good idea
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That's an excellent idea!! Think of how many weddings and special events could be booked in the evenings and/or Sundays. That could help cover a lot of the operational expenses.
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By the way, someone on the hill told me yesterday that the entire ninth floor near the tram will be gutted and retrofitted with an upscale restaurant, shops, and an expanded plaza area.
That's great news for sure. Reliable source? Any timeline? Seems unthinkable that they would gut a floor so soon after finishing the building. Maybe I didn't pay enough attention to the permanence of the interior when I was in there, though.
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2007, 3:47 AM
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a couple of pictures from my ride.



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That's great news for sure. Reliable source? Any timeline? Seems unthinkable that they would gut a floor so soon after finishing the building. Maybe I didn't pay enough attention to the permanence of the interior when I was in there, though.
From what I can tell the Kohler Pavilion is actually quite thin. The newly built area already has a plaza and an atrium on the ninth floor when you get off the tram, but the older portion passes a waiting area and enters a long dark hallway with lots of doors. The OHSU ladies in that area told me that in the next few months the entire area right there was going to be gutted and rebuilt with connecting views of both the tram landing in the new Kohler Pavilion atrium to the skybridge view from the shops with a restaurant, presumably, in the middle and able to see both. It sounded interesting but they couldn't direct me to any renderings of floor plans...I'll try and dig around the OHSU website later today.
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^^^ Wow. Thanks for researching that.
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isn't there someone here that works on OHSU projects, crow or someone? I am curious to find out the specifics as to what OHSU has planned. IMO, the only weak part of the tram was lack of activities at the upper station.
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A downside look up at their new neighbor
Thursday, February 01, 2007
By Spencer Heinz
The Oregonian

On the cozy street that fought the tram and lost, homeowner Mark Gould says he wishes riders would not wave as though sailing over a circus.

"I have to say," he says, "it's odd."

This is part of life below the tram on Southwest Gibbs Street, the staging grounds for the former "NO TRAM" opposition.

After years of tilting against City Hall and Oregon Health & Science University, a crystalline kingdom of glass and steel that hews brightly to the hillside, the anti-tram forces watched as the tram became real. The 3,300-foot route sails over the neighborhood from the hospital to its new cousin on the waterfront.

Under the tram, attitudes range from those who say the two cars are better-looking and quieter than they expected, to those who despise the device because they say the city and campus pushed it on them. Some say tram riders, contrary to promoters' promises, can see into their houses.

"My privacy still feels invaded," says Alice Sayre, a clothing designer who took a free introductory ride and got a surprise: a view of her studio through a skylight. Sayre, married to Gould, says being under the tram feels ominous.

"You're taking the garbage out," she says, "then here comes this thing that's half the size of a bus."

It's the same for Gayle Robertson, 39, a teacher in Salem who lives near the top of the tram route. During her introductory ride, she spotted her living room. On the plus side, Robertson says, the tram cars look smaller and sleeker than she had imagined; on the minus, she sees the tram as mainly for OHSU instead of for the public -- and as an inappropriate luxury.

"I think it's really distasteful for it to be built," Robertson says, "when schools are being closed below it and a war is being fought."

OHSU proposed the tram to link its campus with the Willamette riverfront over a hash of freeway lanes and boulevards. In the Homestead and Corbett-Terwilliger-Lair Hill neighborhoods beneath the tram, attitudes sometimes vary depending on whether the speaker is a deeply rooted homeowner or a new tenant.

From her apartment's front porch, 20-year-old Molly Huggins says she loves seeing the tram and friends' reactions to it.

"People like freak out to it," Huggins says. "They don't expect anything, then they see: It's like a bus in the air."

The tram's two cars, passing every three minutes or so, are soundless from below but serve as conversation pieces.

"That's not a tram, that's a beer keg," proclaims Jim Wallace, 77, a retired teacher of teachers at Lewis & Clark College who lives in the neighborhood and takes a daily stroll. He wants to see the kegs adorned with lights, served by flight attendants and bookended by local breweries -- McMenamins and Widmer.

"That may say more about me," Wallace adds, "than it does about it."

Bill Speedie, 65, and Marilyn MacDonald, 61, own a home just off Gibbs Street and show relief that the tram isn't "a monster," as she puts it. And that it is not intrusive, though tram cars sometimes catch the sun and bounce it briefly through their living room.

Don Livingstone, an architect with an office under the tram, looks forward to its function: This summer, he plans to ride his bicycle from his hillside home to his work down on Gibbs, then coast to the riverfront for a tram ride home.

Meanwhile, the line has become a landmark for those who need directions. "Now we can say," Livingstone explains, " 'We're right under the tram.' "

Mail carrier Huong Ly says the tram looks "really cool. It makes the city more like people would want to come and visit it."

And Larry Beck, a Gibbs Street resident and a Portland lawyer who helped guide the "NO TRAM" resistance, says the tram cars are less imposing than he had feared.

"That being said," Beck says, "it irks me when I can look up and see the lines and people looking down at us." He doesn't expect to ever ride the tram, either: "It does not serve me in any way."

It has, though, provided lessons for him and his family.

"It's worth fighting that fight," Beck says. "You can band together with your neighbors toward a common goal. And you may win or you may not. But it's worth the fight."

Spencer Heinz: 503-221-8072; [email protected]
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/portland_news/116969373362490.xml&coll=7
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"don't wave to me, it's odd" what a loser. I wasn't able to see into the cabins from the ground, and why stare at the tram if you don't like it?
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some more cool pictures i found on flickr this time i put the photographer's whole library as a link to give them more credit
http://flickr.com/photos/tenderisthebridge/





http://flickr.com/photos/reevco/





http://flickr.com/photos/davhsu/



http://flickr.com/photos/52501219@N00/





and the west end

http://flickr.com/photos/nacho/



for some reason i can't post this guy's pics but they are very probably the best: http://flickr.com/photos/ioja/
this guys is good also but also doesn't work: http://flickr.com/photos/habibi/sets/72157594507423386/
http://flickr.com/photos/kevinjbond/sets/72157594507978408/























im all for trees and everything but this could be a awesome view

portland's scar



http://flickr.com/photos/36254855@N00/



http://flickr.com/photos/cjgabbe/



if your looking for a fix of tram photos check this link out every once in a while: http://flickr.com/groups/tram/pool/
if your looking for portland in general check this: http://flickr.com/groups/pdx/pool/
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this could be cool
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Portland aerial tram Well, everyone has an opinion about the city's new aerial tram: It cost too much. It represents bureaucratic incompetence. It symbolizes the future of Portland. It's just, well, a tram.

Still, you have to admit a tram is a pretty cool thing. Right now, the art gallery at the American Institute of Architects is exhibiting a comprehensive show that traces the tram's entire design process. AGPS Architecture, the tram's designing firm, is showing models, drawings, photographs and other artifacts that chart the tram's beginnings in 2003 through its completion in 2007. Of course, those four years included many amendments, changes and design detours. Now that the tram is open to the public, the AIA show is a perfect time to objectively assess the creation of Portland's latest cause celebre. American Institute of Architects/Portland, 315 S.W. Fourth Ave. (D.K. Row)
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sorry had to post these, they look awesome
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how much ya gotta pay to ride in the cherry picker on top the cabin?
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just in case your are a huge fan of the tram and are planning on getting married soon... http://www.z100portland.com/cc-common/globalcontestfinder.html?contest=65607
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Bojack must be creaming...it will never end!

Potter cites tram costs

Mayor Tom Potter surprised his staff Monday by saying he was going to investigate how the cost of the Portland Aerial Tram increased from $15 million to around $58 million.

Potter talked about the investigation during a morning appearance on KPOJ (620 AM) radio to discuss the city charter changes that were referred to the May ballot by the City Council last week.

One of the four measures would place all city agencies under the control of a single administrator appointed by the mayor and confirmed by the council.

Asked what difference that would make, Potter cited the tram as an example of a project that lacked proper administrative oversight — and then talked about how he was investigating the cost overruns.

Contacted by the Portland Tribune, Potter press aide John Doussard said he was not aware of any investigation into the tram, although the council has talked about reviewing the history of the project in the past. “I would be surprised if we’re doing anything at this point,” Doussard said.
http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=117131829294831800
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Potter cites tram costs

Mayor Tom Potter surprised his staff Monday by saying he was going to investigate how the cost of the Portland Aerial Tram increased from $15 million to around $58 million.

Potter talked about the investigation during a morning appearance on KPOJ (620 AM) radio to discuss the city charter changes that were referred to the May ballot by the City Council last week.

One of the four measures would place all city agencies under the control of a single administrator appointed by the mayor and confirmed by the council.

Asked what difference that would make, Potter cited the tram as an example of a project that lacked proper administrative oversight — and then talked about how he was investigating the cost overruns.

Contacted by the Portland Tribune, Potter press aide John Doussard said he was not aware of any investigation into the tram, although the council has talked about reviewing the history of the project in the past. “I would be surprised if we’re doing anything at this point,” Doussard said.
http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=117131829294831800
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Urbanpdx, if the post isn't yours, your supposed to put the Title/Author/Source at the top of the article with a link to the article somewhere in the post. That way those of us that don't care to read your antiplanner — can just skip to the next post.
Double standard?
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☝ I think Mark supplied the source of the article at the bottom of his post...you will see the link there.

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no, urbanpdx is correct. I copied and pasted from the neighborhoods section of the Trib and caught it on another post when I realized it didn't say Portland Tribune, but couldn't remember where I submitted the first post. I think in the best interest of transparency, the source should always be posted at the top of the article...
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