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Old Posted Feb 6, 2007, 7:20 AM
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I like the design of The Vale but not the colors...
I do want to say though- I like variety...
Too many Brownstone projects if you ask me-

For example I am not a castle- guy but I like Chateaux on Central... It turns heads. -As does The Vale.

What we need is more masonry projects...
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2007, 12:11 AM
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Here is a pano (well, two pictures merged together) that I took today of the growing Tempe skyline for work. Taken from the top of the Chase Garage.



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Andrew,

Great pano shot! Look at that beautiful blue sky, Camelback and the buttes...McDowell Mountains in the background. I'm soooo home sick all of a sudden. Nice job

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Old Posted Feb 7, 2007, 4:27 AM
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I like the design of The Vale but not the colors...
I agree, I was down at the Burton Barr library today and noticing that same hideous lime green color all over it. I wonder why Bruder is so fond of it, its really quite ugly.
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I must say while I'm not overly a big fan of those specific colors, it is refreshing to see something other than brown, ochre, tan, pink ect. The Phoenix area has enough construction with this palate that something shocking becomes interesting, and the design is creative enough to warrant a more vivid scheme. Leave the more conservative colors for the cookie cutter houses and strip malls of suburbia, where the paint scheme matches the mentality.
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2007, 6:48 AM
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Andrew- hell of a pic-
You should retake those shots and combine in about 10 months....
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Coffee talk: Lakefront luxury apartments
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The Arizona Republic
Feb. 8, 2007 11:39 AM
Forget Scottsdale, Paradise Valley or the Biltmore area. The Valley's most expensive luxury apartments are now open on Tempe Town Lake.

Folks willing to pay up to $5,000 a month began moving into their luxury apartment digs this week at Grigio, a 523-unit complex on the northern shore of Tempe Town Lake.

Dolores McKay, the brand manager for Gray Development Group's Grigio Contemporary Living, described those moving in as "independent, successful people who want the amenities of a resort in the place they live. Renters range from successful business people to an ASU student from an affluent local family."

"If they want their dry cleaning waiting for them in their closet, we'll ask which side of the closet; if they want their hair done, a massage, coffee delivered to their door, it will all be here," she said. "We're here for people who work very hard and want service like they get in a five-diamond resort."

Units at Grigio range in size from 500 square feet to 2,600 square feet: studios start at $900 a month. There are 48 floor plans. As of this week, 10 units have been occupied and a total of 80 spoken for.

Grigio has caught the attention not just of potential residents, but of the Valley's real estate community.

Pete Te Kampe is a senior investment associate with Marcus & Millichap, a real estate investment brokerage company. He also is a member of the Board of Directors of the Arizona Multihousing Association.

Te Kampe said the highest average rents in the Valley are in north Scottsdale and Fountain Hills and run about $1,013 a month.

"Grigio now is by far the most expensive rental community in the Valley and it's first class all the way," Te Kampe said. "This Grigio is the Rolls-Royce of Valley apartment communities. What Gray Development is doing is inventing a new market segment for apartments."

McKay said that's exactly what was intended.

"We've combined the best aspects of existing residential options - apartments, condos, resorts, timeshares - and we've added the sizzle you would expect in a resort," she said. "It's contemporary architecture, with beautiful, elegant finishes. You'll see blue-pearl granite countertops, silver metallic appliances, glass-panel cabinetry and split bamboo flooring. And all done with meticulous workmanship."

And then there are the amenities:


• Bi-level, 24-hour health club.


• Three swimming pools and three spa Jacuzzis.


• Poolside café.


• Third floor member lounge.


• Roof lounge for entertainment.


• Bed turndown service.


• Private poolside cabana for spa treatments.


• Housekeeping service.


• Available salon services, from manicures to haircuts.


• Instruction studio for Pilates, spinning, kick-boxing and other fitness classes.

McKay said that it's not only the amenities inside the luxury apartments that are selling them. Grigio's location has been a huge boost to business.

"The whole Tempe, Mill Avenue scene is a very major plus for us," McKay said. "People know how vibrant Mill Avenue is, they see how beautiful the new art center will be, know about other developments coming in downtown Tempe.

"And now they want to stake their claim."
Why would anyone who can afford $5000 a month in rent not buy a condo? I'm sure there's a reason, but I can't figure it out. And sure, Tempe Town Lake and Mill Avenue are nice, but come on - it's not Manhattan! Plus, it's probably 1.5-2 miles from Grigio to downtown Tempe... I guess some people just have money to burn.
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I think a big reason why the north side of the lake is attracting so much attention is because it's close to DT Scottsdale as well.
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wow, so much construction going on in tempe. haven't been there in nearly 4 years. have to visit.
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I also love the design of The Brownstones. I wish more infill projects would look like that and less of this ultra-modern stuff. I especially HATE the Vale with all those obscene colors.
Yikes! The colors of the Vale imo, are EXACTLY what the Phoenix area needs. Not everything in the desert has to be brown and tan. That's one reason I really like the Summit at Copper Square.
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Yikes! The colors of the Vale imo, are EXACTLY what the Phoenix area needs. Not everything in the desert has to be brown and tan. That's one reason I really like the Summit at Copper Square.
I agree, there is way too much brown and tan in the Phoenix area, we do need a variety of colors- but lime green-ick. I remember driving to an ASU football game w/ my family last year, and the first time my mom saw the Vale she said "what the hell is that?" Its just too much for most people. If it was red or purple or blue, or any other color, I'd like it a lot, but its just too bright.
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I knew this was coming: Tempe continues to get taller! Another set of skyscrapers proposed on the old Long Wong's site across the street from Borders (7th St. & Mill).



High-rise proposed on former Tempe bar site

By Garin Groff, Tribune
February 9, 2007


On what is now a gravel lot on Mill Avenue, the dilapidated but beloved Long Wong’s bar helped elevate local bands like the Gin Blossoms to national acts. Now, a developer wants to boost the image of the former bar site by building an 18-story hotel and two 25-story condo towers.

Paragon, a Las Vegas-based developer, unveiled plans this week for a project that would become the fifth in downtown Tempe with buildings of 18 or more stories.

The hotel would feature a spa and fit- ness center on its second floor, allowing those in the facility to overlook Mill Avenue — and letting people on the street see people working out.

The fitness center would be open to guests, condo owners and the public. That component would be combined with housing, stores and restaurants that would line the street level and create a mix of uses that are rarely found in a single development, project architect Mike Rumpeltin said.

“There are very few projects like this in the country,” said Rumpeltin, of RSP Architects, Ltd.

Paragon hopes the city will approve the project this year. If that happens, the company plans to start construction in July 2008 and open the project two years later.

The $225 million development would run along Seventh Street from Mill to Myrtle avenues, where it would back up to an equally tall tower at the University Square project that includes a hotel, offices and condos.

The project has been a decade in the making.

Las Vegas real estate investor Mario Sanchez bought the Long Wong’s site on Mill about 10 years ago, said John Cahill, Paragon’s vice president. Sanchez bought another parcel at Seventh and Myrtle several years later and then spent several years buying several small lots in between what he already owned.

The developer bulldozed the building that housed Long Wong’s and other small businesses more than a year ago. The vacant property has bothered many merchants and city officials.

Pam Goronkin, executive director of the Downtown Tempe Community, said merchants were happy to see that something was being done with the property.

But she said it’s regrettable that the developer couldn’t also buy the aging Jack in the Box on Mill. It’s the only business left downtown with its own parking lot and driveway, a suburban-type development that downtown planners would prefer to see replaced with an urban building. But the owner wasn’t willing to sell.

“We’ve lived with it a long time,” Goronkin said. “Although I would rather see it incorporated in the project, those people have a right to do what they want with their own property.”

Several things haven’t been determined yet, including the name, condo prices and the hotel brand.

The project includes a redbrick facade on Mill and on Seventh to match surrounding buildings, but the towers will sport steel and glass. The buildings fit within the city’s height guidelines except for the hotel, which would jut above the 150-foot height guideline for that part of the property.

The project’s overall height concerns Councilman Ben Arredondo. He’s objected to heights of some other projects and insisted that the neighboring University Square should not go an inch over the 300-foot limit.

Arredondo said he’s not thrilled to hear part of this project goes over the guideline.

“I thought we agreed to a height limit and not a fudge factor,” he said.

Arredondo said he checks any tall buildings to see if they are too close to neighborhoods or if block the view of Hayden Butte. Those seem to be the biggest concerns of Tempeans, he said.

“They aren’t too concerned when they’re right downtown on Mill,” Arredondo said. “But when it goes over by College Avenue or further to the railroad tracks on the west side, they start to get concerned.”

The project’s condo towers would tie with University Square for the second tallest buildings in Tempe at about 300 feet. The tallest buildings will be three 30-story, 343-foot condo towers at Centerpoint Condominiums.

The project

A hotel and condo project at Mill Avenue and Seventh Street includes:

• 240 hotel rooms

• 370 residential units

• 1.1 million square feet

• Conference center, spa and fitness center

• 34,000 square feet for restaurants and shops

Hotel/condo towers

Proposed 18-story hotel and two 25-story condo towers. Construction planned to start mid-2008 if approved.

Centerpoint Condominiums

One 22-story and one 30-story tower under construction. Two more 30-story towers planned.

Mosaic

One 18-story condo tower. Construction in early stages now.

Armory

Two condo towers, 20 stories and 14 or 15 stories, which has not been determined. Construction begins May.

University Square

Three towers ––office, condo and hotel. One tower will reach 300 feet ––more than 20 stories, but the exact number of floors isn’t determined. Construction begins this year.

SOURCE: Tempe; Paragon

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Here is a scan of today's East Valley Tribune's front page of the article:



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Wow, so this developer has managed to string together all of the parcels along the south side of 7th street. This should include the print shop, the small apartments, and the eJoy coffee bar.

That's quite an accomplishment for Tempe, it's been very hard to pull off something like this for a long time now. After the Co-op, there really isn't another large parcel available downtown that I'm aware of.

Naturally, the owner of the Jack-in-the-Box held out.
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The developer bulldozed the building that housed Long Wong’s and other small businesses more than a year ago. The vacant property has bothered many merchants and city officials.

Hotel/condo towers

Proposed 18-story hotel and two 25-story condo towers. Construction planned to start mid-2008 if approved.

Mosaic

One 18-story condo tower. Construction in early stages now.

Armory

Two condo towers, 20 stories and 14 or 15 stories, which has not been determined. Construction begins May.
Tempe is so badass! Too bad that lot will be empty for at least another year and a half. Good to know that Mosaic is starting up and the Armory will start construction in a couple months... two more cranes for the Tempe skyline!
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I love the fact that Tempe is going up and this is going to make it more walkable than ever. The next challenge will be linking it to Scottsdale and Phoenix so well that they are all connected seamlessly....in the next 10 years or so there will be a need to start thinking of a full metro/subway system.

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in the next 10 years or so there will be a need to start thinking of a full metro/subway system.
Subway isn't going to happen (and shouldn't here), everything is too built up, and it would be impossible to build. But we do have Light Rail coming along, with expansions already planned in the works- I'm not sure what you mean by "full system", unless you just mean more lines.
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Anybody know anything about this developer, such as any current or completed projects? I've never heard of 'Paragon' of Las Vegas, and I'm usually skeptical about LV developers to begin with.

A quick check on Google for 'Paragon Las Vegas' turns up only one really relevant link:

http://www.paragoncommercialrealestate.com/wst_page2.html

I hope their website doesn't reflect their attention to detail. Notice the low-quality pics of Phoenix office buildings, along with the 'Created with Go Daddy software' link at the bottom.



If anyone has the correct link to either the developer or the project, please post it.
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Let's not forget the 11 story Marriott in place of Bandersnatch (just east of city hall), which is red-signed for rezoning now. Also that 15-story tower proposed for Rural Rd and 8th St. Two shorter projects on Apache too.

Andrew ... any word on City Hall East? I keep walking by that pyramid thinking that parking lot is a bit empty.
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Jack N the Box must go...
It symbolizes the dead zone that occurs just N of University until you hit the Brickyard development.

JnB also held out on the Century Plaza development (Century City) if it comes to life will always have a shitty JnB in the middle....
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Here is a pano (well, two pictures merged together) that I took today of the growing Tempe skyline for work. Taken from the top of the Chase Garage.



-Andrew
Wow, I used to work there at Chase in the early to mid 90's. It certainly has grown a bit since then. I remember Fat Tuesdays and an Islands. Are the big dirt lots behind the Chase parking structures infilled yet? I'm surprised to see all the infill in the distance, which used to be no man's land next to the (at that time) dry salt river.
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