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Which is sort of ironic having a skyscraper and a costco in the same complex. They are totally different zoning.
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Here are some drawings of new high rises that salt Lake will be getting in the next few years...


Note: None of these buildings have been build as of yet. But once they do these new towers will add to Salt Lake's, Murray's and Lehi's skylines.







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someone was bored at work today......
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whenever I hear updates on new buildings in SLC, I always am hopeful for an SLC Projects back-of-the-napkin renderings..

thanks man.. that is some good work!
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 9, 2007, 5:32 AM
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Actually for pen-and-napkin, those are pretty good renderings. Thumbs up!
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Haha i love your renderings slcprojects...
     
     
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Cottonwood's high vacancy: Exodus of merchants points to makeover

By Lesley Mitchell
The Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated: 02/08/2007 11:36:55 PM MST


Cottonwood Mall in Holladay, built in 1962, has a vacancy rate of about 40% and many tenant's leases expire March 31.(Trent Nelson/Tribune file photo )

There are dark and abandoned corridors and vacant storefronts, and at certain times of the day it's hard to find many customers.
By all appearances, the glory days of 1960s-era Cottonwood Mall are long gone. Talk that mall owner General Growth Properties is either selling Utah's oldest enclosed mall or finally moving forward with an ambitious redevelopment plan has gone on for years.
But there are signs something might be happening soon at 4835 S. Highland Drive.
A slew of tenants has left in recent weeks, many saying the mall's redevelopment was imminent. None, however, had heard anything specific.
Eyeglass provider Lenscrafters joined children's photography studio Kiddie Kandids in vacating the mall Dec. 30. Lenscrafters employees had been telling customers it was because the mall would be closing at some point soon.
Three of the Limited Brand's popular chains - Bath & Body Works, Express Men, and Victoria's Secret - left at the end of January. Also leaving then were apparel retailer American Eagle Outfitters, children's apparel retailer Gymboree and PacSun, which sells teen apparel.
Though even more tenants are on their way out, mall management is vague as ever about the center's prospects.
"It would be premature at this point to announce anything," said General Manager Spence Angerbauer. "But we want the public to know we understand their concern and we're actively addressing the future of Cottonwood Mall."
Angerbauer said most tenants are operating under short-term leases through the end of March. What happens after the end of next month? No comment.
He did underscore the fact that the mall's anchors, including Macy's, have long-term leases.
"Macy's will be around for many, many years to come," he insisted, which Macy's representatives have confirmed.
The uncertainty over the mall's future can be felt at businesses throughout the property, which has a vacancy rate of about 40 percent, the highest level of empty space since the mall was built in 1962.
Night Flight Comics manager Mimi Cruz is one several remaining tenants who would like to know what is going on. The store, which has been in the mall nearly 20 years, has a lease that is up on March 31.
"It's pretty quiet - it's kind of sad," Cruz said, adding that she is not privy to the mall's plans or whether her store is part of them.
Many tenants continue to leave, citing poor sales, a lack of information from mall management and the fact that they are being offered only short-term leases - and nothing beyond March 31.
"Out of frustration, stores are leaving," said Bryon Coons, manager of the Cottonwood Mall location of Pendleton Woolen Mills, the Portland, Ore.-based apparel retailer that is moving out at the end of March to a site north of the mall.
"If the mall is doing something, we'd love to be a part of it," he said. "But they aren't telling us anything. And we didn't want to be in a position of them shutting their doors and having to find another location quickly."
Cottonwood mall shopper Pat Halverson, who on Wednesday was shopping at J.C. Penney, said she had heard the mall would be redeveloped into something like the open-air Gateway shopping center in downtown Salt Lake City.
She said she would miss the existing style of Cottonwood Mall, where she has been shopping for 17 years, but an open-air mall would make sense. "The young people would like it."
Many longtime shoppers question why a well-known and well-capitalized mall owner such as General Growth Properties would allow a mall in such a desirable area to struggle for so long. Why has it not embarked on redevelopment sooner? And why is it saying nothing about its plans?
One reason could be that redeveloping an existing mall - especially one with anchors such as Macy's and J.C. Penney - takes years of negotiations, said Darrell Tate, a retail specialist with commercial brokerages Commerce CRG in Salt Lake City.
"People have leases in place, and you need to work through all those things," Tate said. "It's much more challenging to redevelop an existing project than to build a new project."
General Growth also might be working out how such a redevelopment would take place. Would the mall be vacated, demolished and rebuilt? Or would some stores remain during a less-involved renovation? What if a tenant with a long-term lease, such as Macy's, has demands that force General Growth to go back to the drawing board?
Bryson Duncan, a retail specialist with NAI Utah, said General Growth has another issue. It owns the nearby Fashion Place Mall at 6191 S. State St. General Growth acquired Fashion Place several years ago as part of an acquisition of another company. The Murray mall is one of Utah's - and probably the West's -most successful enclosed shopping centers.
General Growth undoubtedly is concerned about not hurting Fashion Place, less than six miles away.
While it works out all these issues, talk persists.
Holladay Council member Lynn Pace has heard them all.
"People want to know what is happening. I wish I knew."
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That's pretty bad. It's too bad, really because Cottonwood isn't that bad of a mall. I wish I could jack it up, and take it over to Valley Fair and replace it. But, hey if it means new mall, it may not be so bad.
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I would think an upscale Lifestyle Center would do really well there. Obviously,the fact that the owners own both Cottonwood Mall and Fashion Place Mall creates a conflict. One thing is for sure, they will have to decide something soon, as the city of Holladay is getting pretty impatient about the situation. That's one of the most valuable pieces of real estate in the Valley.
     
     
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Hey, What's up everybody? This is my first time posting. I've been checking out this forum on and off for about a month now, and was wondering if there were any projects I didn't know of. Below is a list of all the project I know of happening in SLC or that are exceptionally cool and are happening in the state. Please correct me where I am wrong. Thanks.


1.5 towers for city creek center. 2 of them 10 stories. One of them 12. One 26, and one 32, and the possible 17 story tower on 200 East and 100 South.
2. vestage tower about 10 stories. Undisclosed location.
3. 222 s. main tower- 21 Stories (hopefully)
4. world trade center tower - guesstimate of 33 stories. 700k SQ. Feet.
5. wasatch properties tower on 400 south and state street. 33 stories.
6. new court house complex 10 story tower
7. proposed cowboy partners half office, half residential tower. Suppossed to be tall.
8. 9 story parking garage to replace one on Social Hall Avenue for Harmons
9. 2 more 8 story office towers at gateway
10. 8 story metro condo's
11. allen millo park west 8 story condos
12. Conversion of Decker Patrick Dry Goods to Condos.
13. proposed real salt lake stadium in sandy. possible fairground location.
14. rumor of W hotel by delta center.
15. Arts district for Salt Lake City along 200 and 300 South West of Main.
16. Rennovation and revamping of Pioneer Park
17. The Marmalade in the marmalade district.
18. Downtown Circulator train.
19. Trax expansion to intermodal hub
20. possible lightrail to airport
21. new "Wicked" roller coaster at lagoon
22. commuter from Ogden to Salt Lake finished in 2008
23. Double size gateway development in Farmington across from Lagoon.
24. Frank Gehry to design Lifestyle center w/ Fake Lake designed for wakeboarding. 5 star hotel that will be states tallest building. and other residential towers and neighborhood.
25. Pleasant grove getting 13 story hotel, and 10 story hotel.
26.Talks of bringing City Creek above ground.
27.South Fork City creek replication at the city creek center project
28.Harmons grocery store to go in at 100 south social all avenue w/ condos on top.
29.proposed Market station development of Boston type browntstones. some buildings being 11 stories at 2100 south trax station.
30. Sugarhouse trolley to extend from 1100 east and 2100 south to trax at 2nd west and 2100 south.
31.The Leonardo at Library Sqaure. One of a kind type arts and interactive learning center wiht time sqaure type banners on outside.
32.Rennovation of Walker center to class A office space.
33.Boston building to become condominiums.
34.Possible rennovation of Galivan center.
35.Possible addition on Marriot downtown (west temple) addition of 500 rooms.
36.New 5 story LDS History library behind temple sqaure on North Temple.
37.Residential tower at trolley sqaure ontop of there Parking Garages. 260 + units.
38. Gateway Tower 5. 5 Stories.
39. Gateway looking to build Hotel.
Just a question from an outside here, how many of these projects have broken ground?
     
     
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Hey, What's up everybody? This is my first time posting. I've been checking out this forum on and off for about a month now, and was wondering if there were any projects I didn't know of. Below is a list of all the project I know of happening in SLC or that are exceptionally cool and are happening in the state. Please correct me where I am wrong. Thanks.


1.5 towers for city creek center. 2 of them 10 stories. One of them 12. One 26, and one 32, and the possible 17 story tower on 200 East and 100 South.
2. vestage tower about 10 stories. Undisclosed location.
3. 222 s. main tower- 21 Stories (hopefully)
4. world trade center tower - guesstimate of 33 stories. 700k SQ. Feet.
5. wasatch properties tower on 400 south and state street. 33 stories.
6. new court house complex 10 story tower
7. proposed cowboy partners half office, half residential tower. Suppossed to be tall.
8. 9 story parking garage to replace one on Social Hall Avenue for Harmons
9. 2 more 8 story office towers at gateway
10. 8 story metro condo's
11. allen millo park west 8 story condos
12. Conversion of Decker Patrick Dry Goods to Condos.
13. proposed real salt lake stadium in sandy. possible fairground location.
14. rumor of W hotel by delta center.
15. Arts district for Salt Lake City along 200 and 300 South West of Main.
16. Rennovation and revamping of Pioneer Park
17. The Marmalade in the marmalade district.
18. Downtown Circulator train.
19. Trax expansion to intermodal hub
20. possible lightrail to airport
21. new "Wicked" roller coaster at lagoon
22. commuter from Ogden to Salt Lake finished in 2008
23. Double size gateway development in Farmington across from Lagoon.
24. Frank Gehry to design Lifestyle center w/ Fake Lake designed for wakeboarding. 5 star hotel that will be states tallest building. and other residential towers and neighborhood.
25. Pleasant grove getting 13 story hotel, and 10 story hotel.
26.Talks of bringing City Creek above ground.
27.South Fork City creek replication at the city creek center project
28.Harmons grocery store to go in at 100 south social all avenue w/ condos on top.
29.proposed Market station development of Boston type browntstones. some buildings being 11 stories at 2100 south trax station.
30. Sugarhouse trolley to extend from 1100 east and 2100 south to trax at 2nd west and 2100 south.
31.The Leonardo at Library Sqaure. One of a kind type arts and interactive learning center wiht time sqaure type banners on outside.
32.Rennovation of Walker center to class A office space.
33.Boston building to become condominiums.
34.Possible rennovation of Galivan center.
35.Possible addition on Marriot downtown (west temple) addition of 500 rooms.
36.New 5 story LDS History library behind temple sqaure on North Temple.
37.Residential tower at trolley sqaure ontop of there Parking Garages. 260 + units.
38. Gateway Tower 5. 5 Stories.
39. Gateway looking to build Hotel.
Just a question from an outside here, how many of these projects have broken ground?
     
     
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Just a question from an outside here, how many of these projects have broken ground?
Let me think
the LDS church history library
metro condos
fidelity office at gateway (8 stories)
5 story office building at gateway
the city creek center development is in the demolishion of the old buildings phase
westgate condos(about 6 stories)
broadway condos (8 stories)
1 or 2 affordable housing projects, I'm not sure what thier called
extension of trax to the intermodal hub

that's all I can think of now, but I may have missed one or two. so obviously not as many as we would like to see going up but hopefully some of them will get off the ground soon, especially the tall ones.
     
     
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renovation of Walker Center
wicked roller coaster at Lagoon
commuter rail from (North Ogden) to Salt Lake intermodal hub
     
     
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Cottonwood's high vacancy: Exodus of merchants points to makeover

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Article Last Updated: 02/08/2007 11:36:55 PM MST


Cottonwood Mall in Holladay, built in 1962, has a vacancy rate of about 40% and many tenant's leases expire March 31.(Trent Nelson/Tribune file photo )
Knock it down. I'll be first in line with a sledge hammer. I would enjoy that almost as much as the Germans enjoyed knocking down the Berlin Wall.

     
     
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Poll finds the SLC Main Library among the nation's favorite buildings
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Article Last Updated: 02/09/2007 12:12:29 AM MST

Salt Lake City's Main Library has been ranked as one of the nation's favorite buildings. In a poll commissioned by the American Institute of Architects, the library was ranked 69th out of 150. "This is wonderful," Library Director Nancy Tessman said Thursday. "This confirms what we hear everyday from visitors and patrons - that they love this building." America's favorite building is the Empire State Building in New York, followed by the White House in Washington, D.C. The poll was conducted by Harris Interactive and commissioned to celebrate the AIA's 150th anniversary. The initial list of buildings was created by AIA members. Some 1,800 adults evaluated the buildings online. The results were released this week. - Heather May


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hey slcprojects.. i just noticed that you left out the WTC on your napkin renderings..
     
     
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Article Last Updated: 02/09/2007 12:12:29 AM MST

Salt Lake City's Main Library has been ranked as one of the nation's favorite buildings. In a poll commissioned by the American Institute of Architects, the library was ranked 69th out of 150. "This is wonderful," Library Director Nancy Tessman said Thursday. "This confirms what we hear everyday from visitors and patrons - that they love this building." America's favorite building is the Empire State Building in New York, followed by the White House in Washington, D.C. The poll was conducted by Harris Interactive and commissioned to celebrate the AIA's 150th anniversary. The initial list of buildings was created by AIA members. Some 1,800 adults evaluated the buildings online. The results were released this week. - Heather May


PRETTY, GREAT LIBRARY!
That is pretty great to hear about the library. I'm glad they made the extra effort with that building and gave us a beautiful landmark.

Smiling Bob, I am wondering what kind of retail mix you think would work well with a new Cottonwood Mall? I remember you having had a business there and a good feel for that situation. Also, do you think JCPenney is the right mix for that mall?
     
     
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That is pretty great to hear about the library. I'm glad they made the extra effort with that building and gave us a beautiful landmark.

Smiling Bob, I am wondering what kind of retail mix you think would work well with a new Cottonwood Mall? I remember you having had a business there and a good feel for that situation. Also, do you think JCPenney is the right mix for that mall?
This area is definitely upscale. Probably as much or more so than downtown customers, but the question is how to develop it differently from Fashion Place. When I was there Cottonwood was owned by Price Development who are only slightly better than Woodbury Corp. at managing malls and tenants. General Growth is a much better company regarding mall development, and it will be a nice project.

I would like to see an open Gateway-type project there. The mall itself is a tear-down and rebuild project. And if you are going to tear it down you don't rebuild an enclosed mall. So you are left with an open Mall or Strip Mall. The area is too high end for a simple strip mall, like the ones which surround it.

Cottonwood Mall is on a very small piece of land. Parking is a huge issue. At Christmas employees had to park on the east side in a parking lot uphill from the mall. The stairs to go down were at least 3 stories high meaning the parking lot was up above the roof of the mall. Macey's has a nice parking garage, and you are looking at more parking garages regardless of what you do. You couldn't build Cottonwood Mall today because the parking requirements would prevent it. My guess is that you would need 500 more parking spaces and that only works if you go up. You would need to encircle the mall with parking garages to provide adequate parking. Gateway has some of that, but it is more open than Cottonwood would be.

With the small amount of land, I don't know how you build a very big project. I always felt that a boutique shopping plaza was the way to go. Everything very upscale. Jewelry, clothing, gifts, shoes, etc. The market area could support high-end products and now would definitely be the time to move forward. Should have been working on it earlier and be able to grab more of the ZCMI Center/Crossroads Plaza dollars.
     
     
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hey slcprojects.. i just noticed that you left out the WTC on your napkin renderings..

LOL, your right I did. I notice that this morning when I was looking at my drawing.
But isn't the WTC going to be at least 33-stories as well?
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Who gets the last loft?

Condo boom hits downtown SLC

Even with about 1,000 units coming in the next 15 months, prices are up and sales are brisk
By Lesley Mitchell
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Article Last Updated: 02/11/2007 02:06:00 AM MST


Local realtor Babs De Lay in her loft apartment in the Dakota Building (Paul Fraughton/The Salt Lake Tribune )



When Luann Lakis and her family decided to move to downtown Salt Lake City from Orem seven years ago, it wasn't hard to find a good deal on a town home or condominium.
"You almost couldn't give one away," said Lakis. Sellers were so eager to unload units at bargain prices that Lakis and her husband purchased not one but two adjoining units in a downtown loft development. They tore down the wall between the two and created one large condo.
A decade ago - before the opening of The Gateway shopping center would jump-start development on the west side of downtown - condos weren't exactly in high demand.
Now Lakis, a real estate agent who once focused on single-family homes, sells mainly condos, town homes and lofts. She and her broker, Babs De Lay, who also lives in a downtown loft, have carved a niche in working with people willing to shell out from $160,000 to more than $1 million to be near the increasingly diverse mix of entertainment, activities, restaurants and retailers in the downtown area.
Although there are a number of established condo developments in and around downtown, scores of projects are on the way. In all, De Lay estimates that more than 1,000 condominium, loft and town home units will be finished in the next 15 months. Many are spoken for even before developers break ground, with potential buyers putting down $1,000 or more to reserve a unit.
Many of the condos will be within walking distance of The Gateway, which appears to be a strong draw among buyers.
Brian Muir makes an 80-mile round trip commute each workday from downtown Salt Lake City to his job in Provo. He makes the trek because he loves living near The Gateway and EnergySolutions Arena, and being close to extended events such as the Farmers Market at Pioneer Park.
Muir has lived in the downtown area for five years, including in a condo near the Salt Lake City Library. A few months ago, he closed on a unit in Pierpont Lofts, at 350 West and Pierpont Ave. (240 South)
"I like being able to walk across the street to shop, eat or see a movie," he said.
Developers are encouraged by the lack of available units in existing projects and by demand, which has pushed up prices sharply. The average price per square foot at the Dakota Lofts and Pierpont Lofts is up by nearly one-third from 2005 to 2006, according to De Lay. The Warehouse Lofts at 327 W. 200 South is up more than 40 percent.
If the sheer number of units isn't surprising, their price tags can be downright shocking to anyone who views condos as an affordable, entry-level alternative to single-family houses.
Few units are available from $100,000 to $200,000 - and those that are on the market are very small. One development is selling units starting at $150,000 that offer only 400 square feet of space; other units priced at $160,000 are only 650 square feet. Most condos being built now are priced at $300,000 and up.
Take Marmalade, Howa Capital's mixed-use development along 300 West between 500 North and 600 North that will include an 80-unit condo and town-home development.
Prices probably will start in the $300,000s for a condo, with town homes that have two-car garages starting in the high $600,000s, said Dru Damico, director of development for Howa Capital. The condos will have 900 square feet to 2,200 square feet; the town homes are about 2,200 square feet.
Months before construction is set to begin - and more than a year before anyone can even think about moving in - half of the first phase consisting of 50 condos and nine town homes already has been reserved.
Damico said his development's condos and town homes are designed to appeal to people who could afford a house in The Avenues or Federal Heights but who want to live downtown and desire new construction, not something built 100 years ago.
Architect Ken Millo agrees that there is a demand for this market niche. He's developing no fewer than three new condo projects and doesn't plan to stop there.
There's the 108-unit "loft-style" Metro Park West development at 341 S. 400 West. Millo said about half the units at the development - scheduled for completion in about 18 months - are reserved by people paying a $1,000 refundable deposit. Prices are in the high $200,000s to $600,000s.
The 40 units in his "urban flat" (read: single-level condo) development in the old Patrick Dry Goods building at 163 W. 200 South are priced at around $300,000. He said nearly 60 percent have been reserved since he began taking reservations about a month ago. Completion is expected by the end of the summer.
Then there's Broadway Park Lofts at 350 W. Broadway, an 88-unit loft-style development. The project, scheduled for completion in early 2008, is nearly sold out. The project includes 28 400-square-foot, two-story "live-work" units designed to appeal to artists and others who need a small work area with an upstairs living area.
Salt Lake City massage therapist Dennis Record is one of those people. Record, who lives in The Parc at Gateway condominiums, has reserved a 400-square-foot "live-work" unit at Broadway Park Lofts, where he plans to operate his own massage studio.
He plans to move in this fall or spring 2008. He'll live upstairs until late 2008 or early 2009, when Metro Park West is completed and he can move into that development. He said he will keep his office in Broadway Park.
Record said all the new condos being built downtown are going to change the feel of the city. "Salt Lake is not going to be the same city in another eight years. It's going to be a lot cooler."
Another new downtown condominium development is Westgate Lofts, just east of The Gateway at 328 W. 200 South.
The first phase, which includes a cafe and art gallery, has 56 standard units. Only seven units are available, with move-in starting in a week or two. A second phase, set for completion in five months, includes 17 town homes, half of which have been reserved. A third phase is set for completion in 18 months.
One development in which all the units are long spoken for is The Metro Condominiums, 350 S. 200 East. That 117-unit development is scheduled for completion in early 2008.
On another front, several apartment buildings in the downtown area are being converted to condos. They include The Armista, 555 E. 100 South; The Ruby, 435 E. 200 South; and The Parkland, 435 E. 100 South.
Kip Paul, an investment specialist with commercial brokerage Commerce CRG in Salt Lake City, said that in the past six months he has seen a half-dozen such deals and expects to see more.
With all the building activity, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints hasn't decided how many condos it will build in its City Creek Center project. Spokesman Dale Bills said the church might build as few as 300 units and as many as 700, depending on market conditions. Because the residential component of City Creek is still in the design phase, no reservations are being taken and no pricing information has been released.
With all the additional condos coming up in the next several years, there is plenty of speculation about how well sales and prices will hold up.
James Wood, director of the Bureau of Economic and Business Research at the University of Utah, worries about the market's volatile history of long and deep downturns. From the early 1980s to the mid-1990s, condo sales were very sluggish. "It's a market with more risk than single-family homes."
But interest rates are expected to remain attractive, and Utah's economy is expected to continue to do well in coming years.
Add to that strong job growth, continued population growth and the increasing popularity of living downtown, and they all bode well for the market.
"They may not all sell out as fast as the developers want them to," Wood said. "But in general, I think they are going to be successful."
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