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Old Posted Feb 7, 2007, 12:05 AM
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It looks like the Intel shell will officially bite the dust...and makes some!

It'll be imploded on February 25. That's on a Sunday and it'll be at 7 am.
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Wow, Hell has finally frozen over.
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2007, 4:56 AM
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Can anyone film this and link it somehow.

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It looks like the Intel shell will officially bite the dust...and makes some!

It'll be imploded on February 25. That's on a Sunday and it'll be at 7 am.
Click on the link below to see a photo gallery, including construction pictures, of the Intel shell.
http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/photos/02/020707_intel.html


From the Austin American-Statesman
http://www.statesman.com/news/content/business/stories/realestate/02/7intel.html

DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT
Intel shell to be imploded Feb. 25
Federal courthouse will replace failed project.


AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
Tuesday, February 06, 2007

The unfinished Intel Corp. building will go out with a bang — literally — on Feb. 25.

The federal General Services Administration said Tuesday that a contractor will implode the downtown building at 7 that Sunday morning.

It will cost $1.3 million to demolish the building.

Intel once planned a design center downtown, but abandoned the project during the tech downturn in 2001.

It will be replaced by a $65 million federal courthouse with 211,690 square feet.
I would love to see it, over and over! The local news may show it, but it would be nice to save it on my laptop.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2007, 6:08 AM
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Hmm, well now this is odd.

From the Austin American-Statesman
http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/02/07/7intel.html

Reprieve sought for Intel shell
Plans announced for Feb. 25 demolition

By Kate Alexander
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF


Wednesday, February 07, 2007

The tortured history of the unfinished Intel building downtown took an odd turn Tuesday, when city leaders tried to delay the impending destruction of the shell that has lain dormant since the technology bust.

Mayor Will Wynn and other city leaders have launched an eleventh-hour campaign to save the skeleton, saying there may be a better use for it.

Long derided as an urban eyesore, the shell at Fifth and San Antonio streets is slated to be razed for a new federal courthouse building later this month. In fact, the U.S. General Services Administration announced Tuesday an "implosion event" for Feb. 25 that will destroy the Intel shell, which has sat unfinished since the computer chip maker stopped construction of its $124 million project in March 2001.

Construction of the courthouse could begin in 2009 and be completed in 2012, said Shala Geer-Smith, a spokeswoman for the General Services Administration.

But Wynn said a delay of the demolition could benefit the federal government because private interests might be willing to pay a pretty penny for the structure and land.

He and other downtown supporters are quickly making that pitch to local federal judges.

U.S. Magistrate Judge Andrew Austin said that he would meet with Wynn this week and that it would be premature to comment on the suggestion.

It is unclear what steps would be necessary to change the plan.

Wynn says the downtown real estate market has changed markedly since the land was bought for a courthouse in 2004. At that time, nobody wanted land in that area of downtown, he said. "Now, everybody is interested in that quadrant of downtown," Wynn said.

A private developer might be able to use the concrete and steel shell, Wynn said.

Wynn said he did not want to delay the courthouse.However, he said, perhaps the federal government could make enough money from the sale to find another area that would benefit from the public investment and to start construction before 2009, Wynn said.

One champion for federal money to eliminate the "eyesore," U.S. Rep. Lloyd Doggett, D-Austin, said he would support a delay so an alternative could be considered if there is a buyer that might want the structure in its present form.

"Anything we can do to protect the redevelopment of downtown that is currently under way, we certainly want to do," Doggett said.

Doggett said the General Services Administration estimates that it would take two years to find a new location for the courthouse and another two years to design a building.

A spokeswoman for the administration could not be reached Tuesday afternoon to address the suggested change.

The U.S. Postal Service recently agreed to swap its downtown location at Fifth and Guadalupe streets, which was not constrained by the Capitol view corridor regulations, for a new home a block west. In its place, private developers plan to put a 40-story tower with condominiums, hotel rooms and ground-floor retail.
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2007, 6:25 AM
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Here are some updates from this weekend, mostly from afar:



Closeup of nearly-topped out AMLI 2



Wide



Monarch...Up to 9 floors





AMLI 2 rising... from Lamar Blvd at Enfield, on a dreary Thursday



From Cesar Chavez





Looking W down 2nd Street



UT Conference Hotel



Monarch, from another angle




Bridges on the Park

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RE: The Intel/Courthouse site...

Perhaps the GSA could revisit the idea of locating the courthouse in the NE Quadrant of downtown as originally contemplated. That stagnant area could certainly benefit far more than the booming SW quadrant. Hopefully the government is open to Wynn's idea.

Bottom line... I'll be satisfied, just as long as the Intel 'skeleton' is dealt with. I wont mind another year or two of the eyesore if it means a high quality development on the site. Its been 6 years, another year or two wont hurt!
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Nice updates. Thanks, Mopacs.
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Put the Courthouse by the Lawyers.

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RE: The Intel/Courthouse site...

Perhaps the GSA could revisit the idea of locating the courthouse in the NE Quadrant of downtown as originally contemplated. That stagnant area could certainly benefit far more than the booming SW quadrant. Hopefully the government is open to Wynn's idea.

Bottom line... I'll be satisfied, just as long as the Intel 'skeleton' is dealt with. I wont mind another year or two of the eyesore if it means a high quality development on the site. Its been 6 years, another year or two wont hurt!
I agree Mopacs. It's a shame to put the Courthouse in a developing "residential neighborhood." Why not put it up the hill, by the attorneys, other courts and the State office buildings? Seems like it belongs with all the others. It doesn't belong in 360's front yard.
     
     
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Courthouse? Not so fast...

Wynn and Co are trying to hold back efforts, it seems.

http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/stories/2007/02/05/daily22.html

Edit: looks like coverage already started here, my bad.
     
     
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Wynn and Co are trying to hold back efforts, it seems.

http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/stories/2007/02/05/daily22.html

Edit: looks like coverage already started here, my bad.
IMHO, that site makes a lot more sense for residential condos or corporate high rise than for a federal courthouse.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 8, 2007, 1:06 AM
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I'd say The Metropolitan at 9th & Neches is a done deal, if they're going through this throuble. They're planning to move a 150 ton Live Oak from the site to across the street at the First Baptist Church. 150 tons, that's 300,000 pounds! Click on the link to see the video.

From KXAN.com
http://www.kxan.com/global/story.asp?s=6054507

150-Ton Oak Tree To Be Moved From Site Of Condo Project

Feb 7, 2007 06:20 PM

Roughly 140 years ago, Henry Orsay moved into a house in what is now the 900 block of Neches in Downtown Austin.

There was a big oak tree in the yard, a tree that's even bigger now. But the tree is in the way of a planned condominium project. It's illegal to cut it down, so the developers have another idea. They want to move it.

John Hillis, Central Texas Manager for Environmental Design, says, "There's some vulnerability there in any move, especially with a move this large."
KXAN's Jim Swift said, "That's in the back of your mind all the time?"
Hillis says, "All the time."

The plan is to jack the 150-ton tree up and haul it across the street to its new home in the yard at First Baptist Church. However, there are a lot of unknowns in this kind of work. For example, when crews started digging a new hole for the tree, they stuck their shovels in the ground. They dug down, oh, 18 inches or so, and found solid limestone.

Suddenly, the cost of doing this job went up.

"We're spending in excess of $200,000 on just this process," said Marc Rankin, Communications Director for Noble Development Group. "It's a situation where we're trying to restore some confidence in the community in developers and businesses, in general, to say, 'You know, we want to do what's right for everyone involved.'"

To do the job, the Noble Development Group hired Environmental Design, a company that boasts a 98 percent success rate on such projects. But what happens if this tree dies?

"You know, I think that people will understand that we did everything possibly that we could for the sake of saving the tree," Rankin said.

Assuming there are no further delays, the actual move is scheduled for sometime Saturday morning.
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Old Posted Feb 8, 2007, 1:14 AM
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IMHO, that site makes a lot more sense for residential condos or corporate high rise than for a federal courthouse.
I completely agree, I truthfully wouldn't mind turning the area into a park of some sort (don't hate me just yet). We need some green space between all these new highrises.
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I agree Mopacs. It's a shame to put the Courthouse in a developing "residential neighborhood." Why not put it up the hill, by the attorneys, other courts and the State office buildings? Seems like it belongs with all the others. It doesn't belong in 360's front yard.
Well, it seems the GSA is steadfast on its plans for demolition and courthouse development... From Austin Business Journal online:

http://austin.bizjournals.com/austin/stories/2007/02/05/daily22.html?jst=b_ln_hl

GSA: All systems go to implode Intel site

Austin Business Journal - 2:53 PM CST Wednesday, February 7, 2007


With Austin city officials frantically trying to stop it, the U.S. General Services Administration is threatening to blow up a block of downtown Austin.

The GSA issued a scathing rebuke of Austin city officials' rumored plans to save the famed Intel shell building downtown from being demolished to make way for a new federal courthouse.

In a statement today, GSA regional administrator Scott Armey says the city's reported desire to move the proposed courthouse and convert the existing concrete and rebar shell into another type of development project is "fiscally irresponsible."

"To turn back now would cost taxpayers millions of additional dollars, deprive citizens of their badly needed new courthouse for at least two more years, and could potentially jeopardize the construction funding in the future," he says.

The GSA said Tuesday it would conduct an implosion event the morning of Feb. 25 to drop the building to the ground. That destruction would clear the way for the new $65 million federal courthouse at the site on Fifth and San Antonio streets in downtown Austin.

But city officials Tuesday started publicly lobbying the federal government to save the shell and Mayor Will Wynn is scheduled to meet for coffee Thursday with U.S. District Judge Lee Yeakel and U.S. Magistrates Andrew Austin and Robert Pitman to discuss the future of the property, Austin says.

That future might include the prospect of selling the property to a private developer for another purpose -- possibly more condos to meet Wynn's stated demand of 25,000 more downtown residents by 2015.

But the GSA says the courthouse has been on the drawing board for more than 10 years and the GSA bought the Intel property four years ago.
Back then, Armey says, "The city and Downtown Alliance were very grateful that we could provide a positive solution to a critical problem they had downtown."

In October, GSA awarded Austin-based White Construction Co. the contract for the new courthouse. Austin architects Page Southerland Page, along with Atlanta-based firm Mack Scogin Merrill Elam Architects, have been designing the modern 211,690-square-foot courthouse. The $1.3 million demolition project for the Intel shell began late last fall.

"With all the millions of taxpayer dollars already spent in site acquisition, design and plans for the implosion, it would be fiscally irresponsible to start over now," Armey says. "Therefore, we are proceeding as planned and will hold the implosion as scheduled."

Wynn could not be reached for comment, and a representative of Page Southerland Page declined to comment.
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RE: The Intel/Courthouse site...

Bottom line... I'll be satisfied, just as long as the Intel 'skeleton' is dealt with. I wont mind another year or two of the eyesore if it means a high quality development on the site. Its been 6 years, another year or two wont hurt!
It needs to go. The city has had years and years to deal with this eyesore. The federal courthouse, whether we like it or not, has been in the works for years as well. And now that they're at the point of imploding the structure to begin construction, suddenly there's this move to save the structure so it can be utilized. Why now?

Besides, the Intel building was only going to be 10 stories in the first place. I'm not a structural engineer, but I would think the foundation and load-bearing requirements for a 10 story building would differ from that of a 30 story building. Any thoughts here?

I agree that the courthouse should be elsewhere. I would be happier to see a nice tall office tower where all the new people moving into the kajillion new condos downtown could work. (Please, no more announcements of still ANOTHER condo tower.)
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Also, half of the Intel block sits within a Capitol view corridor. Infact, the building's L shape is specifically designed that way to get around the view corridor. The corridor slices through the block from the northeast to southwest side, so I doubt anything much taller could be built there anyway. It would have to be a skinny tower on the western side of the block with a low podium on the eastern side.
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I do wish that the city had been more aggressive when the Fed;s first started the courthouse. Many of us felt then the current site was not the best place. I still think it should have been (as Mopac said) in the NE quadrant. Specifically it the EMPTY LOTS next to the Salvation Army. That was a perfect loacation. Use empty land that will be economically hard to develope. But NOOOOOO, the feds had to be in the middle of the hot are of town. I hope the building will as least be slick......
     
     
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I do wish that the city had been more aggressive when the Fed;s first started the courthouse. Many of us felt then the current site was not the best place. I still think it should have been (as Mopac said) in the NE quadrant. Specifically it the EMPTY LOTS next to the Salvation Army. That was a perfect loacation. Use empty land that will be economically hard to develope. But NOOOOOO, the feds had to be in the middle of the hot are of town. I hope the building will as least be slick......
I agree with the location issue with the courthouse. Why not keep it closer to the police station and city courts? But I don't think it will be economically hard to develop the NE area of downtown. In fact, I think it's going to be prime land very soon as other quadrants become so excessively expensive for developers to turn a profit. There's already a few projects underway in that area, I believe.
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Another issue with future development are the Capitol View Corridors. I believe there's a higher concentration of tracts of land that fall within the corridors in the NE Quadrant, so heights will be limited. That's not to say that high quality development can't be constructed in this area, but height restrictions will curtail residential units per project. If we can remove some of the redundant view corridors (from multiple points along I-35), then this could become more of a moot point.
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...plus, if the I-35 main lanes are ever trenched below grade through downtown (as has been long-planned), those Capitol views won't apply, for obvious lack of visibility from the freeway.
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I agree with the location issue with the courthouse. Why not keep it closer to the police station and city courts? But I don't think it will be economically hard to develop the NE area of downtown. In fact, I think it's going to be prime land very soon as other quadrants become so excessively expensive for developers to turn a profit. There's already a few projects underway in that area, I believe.
I know there are some things happening...... what kind of development do you think would risk the area directly next to the Salvation Army, ARCH, and..... forgive me, forgot the name of the third facility?

Before we go on, let me say A: this may need to be a new thread; B this is not a discussion of the need for services for the homeless..... it is simply a discussion of how to deal with the economic impact of the concetratration of homeless in that area of down town.....

OK. now. (whew!) How do you see it developing? Do you think at some point demand will just outweigh risk? For me personally, it would. Just don't know how a majority of folks would deal with sidewalks lined with sleeping bags????? ( Not an uncommon sight at ARCH).

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