Hartsfield Jackson Atlanta International Airport - Page 12

cabasse · #**221** Posted **Jan 27, 2007, 2:36 PM**

so will this new people mover thing be an extension of what already runs underground, or a new line entirely? it sounds cool, and seems to be slipping under the radar entirely. any maps of the route out there, or other info on cars, track, frequency etc.

smArTaLlone · #**222** Posted **Jan 27, 2007, 3:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by cabasse

so will this new people mover thing be an extension of what already runs underground, or a new line entirely? it sounds cool, and seems to be slipping under the radar entirely. any maps of the route out there, or other info on cars, track, frequency etc.

This is a new line entirely that will run from the ground transportation area to the new rental car facility.

ATLonthebrain · #**223** Posted **Jan 27, 2007, 3:17 PM**

Hey Tim! Hope you're doing well. The people mover is separate from the existing system. An extension would have created a security nightmare, because the existing one is inside security, on the airside, while the new one will be on the outside of security, or the landside. The sections of track are already being put into place, and the supports/pillars line the route all the way from the existing Ground Transportation area over past the GICC to the Consolidated People Mover site. I may drive down that way today and get a couple of shots of the progress. Go to www.atlanta-airport.com, click Airport Information, then Airport Construction, then CONRAC. That is the acronym for Consolidated Rental Car. There is a map that shows the stops, of which there are three. Looks like there will only be a couple of minute intervals between trains, so short waits for passengers. There used to be a very cool video that showed a computer generated depiction of the entire process, from arriving at the Ground Transportation Center, boarding the APM, taking it across I-85 to the facility site, walking into the center, on to the counters and rental cars, then the reverse. However, I can't find it now. Looks like they took it off the site. Oh, and it is an above-ground system, unlike the current one, so it'll look really cool traveling back and forth above the lanes of traffic on the interior Main Terminal roads and traversing I-85.

I believe the CONRAC will have 9,000 spaces, and I have read previously that ATL is the 3rd largest rental car market in the country. So much for everyone believing ATL exists largely for connecting passengers. This project will allow the Airport to reclaim prime on-site land to use for additional public parking, and parking revenue is somewhere in the neighborhood of $90M annually at the present. It's big-money!

ATLonthebrain

trvlr70 · #**224** Posted **Jan 28, 2007, 8:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by ATLonthebrain

Hey Tim! Hope you're doing well. The people mover is separate from the existing system. An extension would have created a security nightmare, because the existing one is inside security, on the airside, while the new one will be on the outside of security, or the landside. The sections of track are already being put into place, and the supports/pillars line the route all the way from the existing Ground Transportation area over past the GICC to the Consolidated People Mover site. I may drive down that way today and get a couple of shots of the progress. Go to www.atlanta-airport.com, click Airport Information, then Airport Construction, then CONRAC. That is the acronym for Consolidated Rental Car. There is a map that shows the stops, of which there are three. Looks like there will only be a couple of minute intervals between trains, so short waits for passengers. There used to be a very cool video that showed a computer generated depiction of the entire process, from arriving at the Ground Transportation Center, boarding the APM, taking it across I-85 to the facility site, walking into the center, on to the counters and rental cars, then the reverse. However, I can't find it now. Looks like they took it off the site. Oh, and it is an above-ground system, unlike the current one, so it'll look really cool traveling back and forth above the lanes of traffic on the interior Main Terminal roads and traversing I-85.

I believe the CONRAC will have 9,000 spaces, and I have read previously that ATL is the 3rd largest rental car market in the country. So much for everyone believing ATL exists largely for connecting passengers. This project will allow the Airport to reclaim prime on-site land to use for additional public parking, and parking revenue is somewhere in the neighborhood of $90M annually at the present. It's big-money!

ATLonthebrain

A big part of why Atlanta is the third biggest rental car market is because business people needs cars to get around the city. Business people going to NYC, Chicago, or Washington can rely more on public transportation.

Rail Claimore · #**225** Posted **Jan 29, 2007, 12:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by Harry Cane

I remember right before the new airport was officially opened, they had an open house and you could run through all the concourses and terminals. It was cool.

It's amazing, the freedom we've lost...

I'm happy to see the progress that's going on at ATL. It really makes me wanna fly there again soon.

ThrashATL · #**226** Posted **Jan 30, 2007, 2:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by ATLonthebrain

For as big as the airport is (and must be to serve such a high volume of passengers), I still believe it is incredibly efficient.

I agree. I landed last night at B17 coming in from Austin (on Shuttle America, a Delta partner flying a VERY NICE E170) and didn't waste any time from plane to baggage and my bags were WAITING for me. Had to be no more than 5 minutes. I waited longer in dumpy San Antonio Intl a few days before and the damn plane parks NEXT to baggage there.

Folk313 · #**227** Posted **Jan 31, 2007, 3:08 AM**

i've been reading some of the boyish bragging going on here. are we all five years old? there are more important things by which to determine the status of a city than whether or not its commercial airport has a train.

cabasse · #**228** Posted **Jan 31, 2007, 4:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by Folk313

i've been reading some of the boyish bragging going on here. are we all five years old? there are more important things by which to determine the status of a city than whether or not its commercial airport has a train or not.

the only thing i see people talking up is the efficiency of the airport, not the fact it's got a train. detroit metro has a train too, and there's going to be an anouncement next month about the ann arbor-metro-dt detroit line.

so what's the significance of 313 in your name anyway; you a detroiter?

Harry Cane · #**229** Posted **Jan 31, 2007, 5:17 PM**

A big sigh of relief. The creditors have decided to back Delta's standalone plan and USAir and Doogie Parker have withdrawn their bid for Delta.

smArTaLlone · #**230** Posted **Jan 31, 2007, 6:45 PM**

US Airways pulls Delta bid

Atlanta Business Chronicle - 12:42 PM EST Wednesday

US Airways Group Inc. has pulled its $10.2 billion hostile bid for Delta Air Lines Inc. after it learned the Official Unsecured Creditors' Committee would not meet its demands by the airline's Feb. 1 deadline.

The committee instead said it will support Delta's standalone plan of reorganization.

"This is a proud day for the thousands of Delta people, customers, communities, civic leaders and others who stood up for our standalone plan and said, emphatically, 'Keep Delta My Delta.'," said Gerald Grinstein, Delta chairman and CEO. "We appreciate the Unsecured Creditors Committee's endorsement of our plan of reorganization and the diligent work of the committee and its advisers in evaluating that plan. We also want to acknowledge the tireless work of all Delta people whose contributions are allowing us to continue the tremendous progress we have made with our restructuring plan."

Tempe, Ariz.-based US Airways' offer of $5 billion in cash and 89.5 million shares of US Airways stock would have expired on Feb. 1, unless there was affirmative support from the committee to start due diligence and the postponement of Delta's hearing on its disclosure statement on Feb. 7.

"We are disappointed that the committee, which has been chosen to act on behalf of all Delta creditors, is ignoring its fiduciary obligation to those creditors," said Doug Parker, US Airways chairman and CEO. "Our proposal would have provided substantially more value to Delta's unsecured creditors than the Delta stand-alone plan. We would have created a better and more financially stable airline that offered more choice to consumers and increased job security to its employees."

Since US Airways' first bid, Delta has stood firm on plans to come out of Chapter 11 as a standalone company in spring 2007.

Delta has argued consistently the US Airways bid's projected network and cost "synergies" are based on "deeply flawed economic assumptions." Delta said US Airways' claimed $1.65 billion in synergies and financial benefits from the proposed merger are overstated because US Airways has "ignored major negative synergies that previous transactions have proven will occur."

Delta also maintained the combined company would be stuck with a high total debt load in a fragile industry, noting its analysis shows the merger would create $23 billion in total debt for the combined entity. This compares with $10 billion in total debt Delta expects to carry when it comes out of bankruptcy.

On Jan. 30, Delta secured commitments from six financial institutions for $2.5 billion in exit financing.

john3eblover · #**231** Posted **Feb 1, 2007, 12:36 AM**

yesss!

Tombstoner · #**232** Posted **Feb 1, 2007, 1:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by Harry Cane

A big sigh of relief. The creditors have decided to back Delta's standalone plan and USAir and Doogie Parker have withdrawn their bid for Delta.

STrek777 · #**233** Posted **Feb 9, 2007, 8:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by Tombstoner

We have been laughing about this all day!
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070209/us_airways_ceo_dui.html?.v=4

alleystreetindustry · #**234** Posted **Feb 19, 2007, 4:04 AM**

i hate the exterior colors of the concourses. the cream i can deal with, but not the tacky orange siding. if only they could replace it with something more natural, a green or light brown or something. just not orange.

ATLonthebrain · #**235** Posted **Feb 19, 2007, 4:58 PM**

I'm much more interested in how the terminal and concourses look on the inside than the outside. The reddish-orange hue, no matter how much you or others dislike it, happens to be the color of the logo of the airport, and it extends throughout the fabric of the Midfield Terminal Complex (including the color of the people mover cars). I say: Long Live the Reddish-Orange Siding @ ATL! The color stays! It's a distinguishing characteristic, and one that no other airport I have visited (and I've been to dozens domestic and international) uses. It's better and more vivid than a boring white or cream could ever be.

Inside, ATL is transforming just about every square foot of public space, and that's where it counts. I was just down there last month, and noticed major improvements to the concourses and the entire Main Terminal. The place is looking good, and it's going to be better. It's looking better now than when it first opened more than 26-years ago.

sabino86 · #**236** Posted **Feb 20, 2007, 4:53 AM**

Man, I was picking a friend of mine up on Friday night, and I was stunned how nice the North Terminal was. Looking good!!!

Harry Cane · #**237** Posted **Feb 22, 2007, 12:29 PM**

The airport is looking GREAT.

And today’s AJC reports that Delta is announcing nonstop Atlanta-Lagos, Nigeria flights. That makes the fourth DL Africa destination (and the only UScarrier to Africa) and third Atlanta-Africa destination. With Dubai, Seoul, Prague coming online soon, DL’s certainly lined some some exotic destinations!

trainiac · #**238** Posted **Mar 9, 2007, 11:16 PM**

I'm flying out next week. If I have a little extra time which concourse would be the best to visit to see what the remodeling looks like?

I've been hearing really good things about Delta's new checkin system.

ATLssMania · #**239** Posted **Mar 10, 2007, 1:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by trainiac

I'm flying out next week. If I have a little extra time which concourse would be the best to visit to see what the remodeling looks like?

I've been hearing really good things about Delta's new checkin system.

I think Concourse B is the farthest along...I flew out of this concourse last week and they still have some new wall coverings to put up in places and finish some of the bathrooms, but it looks good! What a difference!

Also, be sure to check out Delta's new check-in area. When Phase III is finished this summer, it is going to look amazing!

atlantaguy · #**240** Posted **Mar 10, 2007, 3:03 PM**

Yeah, the new International check-in is gorgeous. Very space age and sleek, IMO.

ATLssMania is right - when Phase III is finished this summer, people that haven't been out there for a while will be blown away.