CHICAGO: boom rundown - everything over 12 floors. v4 - Page 15

VivaLFuego · #**281** Posted **Jan 9, 2007, 2:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by SamInTheLoop

I have my doubts that the 150 E Ontario high-rise will actually happen. I think one of the trends that will emerge with the condo sales slowdown will be an evaporation of the fly-by-night developers and a reinforced dominance by the established Chicago market experts. I'm hoping this prediction of a flight to quality will hold in other aspects as well - design, construction, etc...

My worry with alot of the planned towers is that the site will get bulldozed, then the construction deal falls through so the end result being we've lost some structures with historic value to be replaced with a surface lot for the forseeable future.....the story of so much of Chicago from the 60s until now.

Tom Servo · #**282** Posted **Jan 9, 2007, 4:15 AM**

Why are so many developers so interested in tearing down historic buildings?! There are SO many 60's and 70's — boxes to tear down! I wish Chicago had as much respect for its history as cities like Boston do.

Monkey36 · #**283** Posted **Jan 9, 2007, 5:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by BVictor1

The Cultural Center Center is on the southwest corner
The diamond building (Smurfitt-Stone) is on the northwest corner
Millennium Park is the southeast corner

and The Doral "Millennium Park Plaza" is in the northeast corner

sorry about the confusion, first I got my directions mixed up, then I thought it was going to be a new building (wasn't sure where they were going to put it around there) but I guess it's just another possible conversion. thanks for setting me straight, not sure what i was thinking

denizen467 · #**284** Posted **Jan 9, 2007, 5:33 AM**

It actually will be a new building. There is just enough space on that site to put up a pencil-thin 'addition' next to the Doral. This might be the slenderest tower to go up in the city in ages, and is another reason people are excited about next Monday.

spyguy · #**285** Posted **Jan 9, 2007, 5:34 AM**

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Originally Posted by AdrianXSands

Why are so many developers so interested in tearing down historic buildings?! There are SO many 60's and 70's — boxes to tear down! I wish Chicago had as much respect for its history as cities like Boston do.

At the same time, places like Boston do not have quite as much of a boom. You take the good with the bad

And before we take down those "— boxes" (which house lots of people and makeup a lot of the skyline), get rid of all the vacant parcels first.

spyguy · #**286** Posted **Jan 9, 2007, 5:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by denizen467

It actually will be a new building. There is just enough space on that site to put up a pencil-thin 'addition' next to the Doral. This might be the slenderest tower to go up in the city in ages, and is another reason people are excited about next Monday.

Newcityskyline had some images of the building, but nothing that would give its full impact.

Chicago Shawn · #**287** Posted **Jan 9, 2007, 5:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by honte

I hope so! This is one I won't miss it if misses the boat.

It appears to me that there also has been a shift in the market toward modern designs. There hasn't been a major PoMo one built since Millennium Center. Or am I making this up?

Have we forgotten about the Elysian?

Pics from 01-02-2007....

Library Tower

The Columbian

honte · #**288** Posted **Jan 9, 2007, 6:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by Chicago Shawn

Have we forgotten about the Elysian?

Ugh, you're right.... I had almost pushed it from my memory. And the Columbian too, as you show. (But neither of these buildings are the worst offenders....)

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On a brighter note, the Pittsfield Building is finally being lit at the top, as discussed during the landmark designation. It looks fantastic!! I hope everyone gets a chance to see it at night sometime soon.

Hopefully, they aren't finished yet, since the sloped roof isn't lit yet. But it's just great to see this building celebrated.

Tom Servo · #**289** Posted **Jan 9, 2007, 7:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by spyguy

At the same time, places like Boston do not have quite as much of a boom. You take the good with the bad

And before we take down those "— boxes" (which house lots of people and makeup a lot of the skyline), get rid of all the vacant parcels first.

Dude, vacant parcels yeah... I'm talking about when developers want to replace old, historic buildings for ugly, cheap condos. I'm saying, build on vacant lots before anything else. And if it means tearing something down, then tear down all of the — that was built in the late 50's to 80's.

But my point about Boston was that I wish Chicago had more value for its historic structures not just now, but back in the 50's and 60's and so on.

Tom Servo · #**290** Posted **Jan 9, 2007, 7:08 AM**

Does anyone have any new pictures of the Spertus building? I REALLY like it and never hear any talk about it.

ComandanteCero · #**291** Posted **Jan 9, 2007, 8:06 AM**

as a fyi a lot of the images on the first page don't come up for some reason, anyone else noticed this?

chicagoguy1 · #**292** Posted **Jan 9, 2007, 2:16 PM**

Isn't the Doral on the North East Corner of Randolph and Michigan Ave? Are they tearing down the Doral? Or is there room between the Doral and the prudential building?

Steely Dan · #**293** Posted **Jan 9, 2007, 2:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by ComandanteCero

as a fyi a lot of the images on the first page don't come up for some reason, anyone else noticed this?

dylan is currently working on the old SSP image server, and until that work is done, all of the older images hosted on it will not be showing up. he says the work will take at least several weeks, but i suspect it will likely be longer.

brian_b · #**294** Posted **Jan 9, 2007, 2:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chicago Shawn

Have we forgotten about the Elysian?

Pics from 01-02-2007....

Library Tower

Is that rusty steel? Is that bad for the long-term stability of those concrete columns?

VivaLFuego · #**295** Posted **Jan 9, 2007, 3:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by AdrianXSands

Dude, vacant parcels yeah... I'm talking about when developers want to replace old, historic buildings for ugly, cheap condos. I'm saying, build on vacant lots before anything else. And if it means tearing something down, then tear down all of the — that was built in the late 50's to 80's.

But my point about Boston was that I wish Chicago had more value for its historic structures not just now, but back in the 50's and 60's and so on.

Yeah, tear them down just in time for people to get nostalgic about them.

RockfordSoxFan · #**296** Posted **Jan 9, 2007, 5:36 PM**

Thanx for the pics ChiShawn, The Columbian looks great. I know it sounds redundant because so many forumers feel the same way, but that south end of Grant Park is gonna be incredible in a few more years. (OMP, OMPW, two more in Central Station, Columbian & more) I cant wait. Well done, and thanks to all the forumers who keep the photos rolling, especially for us non-Chicagoans. Keep em comming.

LA21st · #**297** Posted **Jan 9, 2007, 6:55 PM**

Caisson drawings were submitted to OUC for a 57 story building. Its on LSD between Grand and Illinois.

trvlr70 · #**298** Posted **Jan 9, 2007, 7:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by LA21st

Caisson drawings were submitted to OUC for a 57 story building. Its on LSD between Grand and Illinois.

I'm having a brain freeze. What project is this?

trvlr70 · #**299** Posted **Jan 9, 2007, 7:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Lukecuj

^ isn't that the old Beitler tall tower site ?

Oh....I think you're right. We suspected that the Beitler tower was merely a negotiation tactic anyhow. Hmmm...another tall cluster in the making.

Lake Point Tower's views just keep getting better and better.

LA21st · #**300** Posted **Jan 9, 2007, 7:27 PM**

Once it goes to OUC for caissons, construction isnt far away. Soil borings were done awhile ago.