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Old Posted Dec 30, 2006, 7:14 AM
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Okay, thanks! That's good to know. Tomorrow I plan to walk all over the Near South area... I wonder if Burnham Pointe, Michigan Avenue Tower II, or Astoria Tower has started yet, or will December be the first month in 2006 without a high-rise construction start?
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^Hey Dan, did you get up to Old Orchard Woods this month? If not, I'll try to make a run up there this weekend.

Acording to my neighborhood paper, the 41st ward zoning advisory comm. is trying to shorten the Element Hotel proposal by pushing the developer to place some of the parking below grade. The building will have 6 floors of parking shared between it and the proposed Wyndham Hotel to be built next door in a mid-rise. They say the building, which is ~25' taller then the nearby Marriot makes the proposed Hotel "out of context"
     
     
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Okay, thanks! That's good to know. Tomorrow I plan to walk all over the Near South area... I wonder if Burnham Pointe, Michigan Avenue Tower II, or Astoria Tower has started yet, or will December be the first month in 2006 without a high-rise construction start?
I drove by Burnham Pointe last night, and it looked like material had been delivered to the site, but I couldn't tell if they had started drilling. I don't think there is much equipment on the Michigan Avenue Tower II site. Last time I went past there the only thing on site was a backhoe
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Well it looks like there are no construction starts in the last month of '06. I did get photos of everything we needed, including Optima Old Orchard. Museum Park Place still needs a lot of work around the entrance, so its year can be changed to 2007.

Can anyone give a report on Park View East, up on Grace Street in Lakeview? Is it finished yet?
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Talk about a wasted opportunity

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0612310048dec31,0,3015500.story?coll=chi-business-hed

OUTLOOK 2007: COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE

Despite sluggish leasing, buildings rise
Cash-rich investors, preference for new space spark industry

By Susan Diesenhouse
Tribune staff reporter
Published December 31, 2006


Fifield Cos. is planning for what has become a rare breed: a speculative downtown office development.

This summer Fifield plans to begin building a 400,000-square-foot, 16-story office structure at 625 W. Monroe St. that will take about two years to complete. But unlike the four office buildings it has developed in the popular West Loop submarket since 1997, the company has not yet signed an anchor tenant for the latest.

"We're confident in the Chicago office market," said Fifield President Rick Cavenaugh. He pointed to the company's last West Loop project, at 550 W. Adams St., which sold earlier this year for a lofty $378 per square foot, roughly 50 percent above the average price for the area.

Cavenaugh's bullishness is buoyed by tenants' eagerness to move into new space, the record dollar volume of office sales in 2006 and the likelihood that investors will clamor for more Chicago property to buy in the next year and beyond.

Still, Fifield faces the risk of building into a sluggish leasing environment.

Rents are projected to be flat next year--slightly below rates charged in 2000. Yet vacancy rates are likely to remain in the mid-teens, well above the 10 percent that marks a healthy market.

The big drag on Chicago office property leasing is the region's slow-growing economy and weak job creation.

As a result, developers continue to lure tenants from older offices, leaving some buildings nearly half empty.

In other words, 2007 will essentially be a tenants' market.

"Landlords are moving around businesses that are already here," said Richard Gatto, an executive vice president at Skokie-based Alter Group. "There's very little fresh meat."

Normally office building development is spurred by declining vacancies and rising rents. But not so in Chicago.

Perhaps this oddity arises from Chicago's nature as a pro-development city in the long languishing Midwest.

"The history of the Chicago market is an imbalance of supply and demand," said William Deyo, a principal at Atlanta-based Goddard Investment Group LLC, which has been searching for an office building to buy here for a year. As the market approaches equilibrium new projects arise, he said, and that usually pushes down rents.

"They drain rental rates for all landlords so there's downward pressure on rents but high operating expenses," Deyo said.

However, some developers find ways around such obstacles.

Consider Alter, the developer. It will start construction in three weeks on an office building at 111 W. Illinois St. with only about 30 percent of its space committed.

"Why develop when there's so much supply out there?" Matthew A. Ward, an Alter senior vice president, asked rhetorically. From the tenants' perspective, he said, "When they calculate the bottom line, they do better in new buildings."

The anchor tenant for Alter's building will be Erikson Institute, a graduate school in child development, which will pay about $20 million to buy 75,000 square feet for use as an office condominium.

"Owning is more economical than renting," said Erickson's president, Samuel Meisels. In addition, the space is being tailored to the school's needs. "We'll have clinical areas and reinforced floors under our library," Meisels said.



Same advantages

In 2007 those who lease office space will find the same advantages that they have since 2001, when downtown vacancy rates shot up to 13.3 percent from 7.1 percent in 2000 when the average asking rent was $28.16.

By the end of 2004 vacancies had hit a high of 17.8 percent and have been slowly drifting down since, according to Jones Lang LaSalle Inc.

At the end of 2006, 14.3 percent of the office space is available for lease or sublease at an average asking rent of $26.83. Landlords will still attract tenants with offers of free rent, although less of it, said Bill Rogers, a Jones Lang LaSalle managing director.

"It will still be a tenants' market," Rogers said of the city's 132 million square feet of downtown office space.

Tenants may take a bit more space, rents may rise slightly for new space with good views, but he said current trends will prevail.

This year, about 4 million more square feet of space was taken off the market than was put back on it, Jones Lang LaSalle reported. This phenomenon is called positive net absorption.

Usually that means strong leasing activity, but for contemporary Chicago that's hardly the whole story.

"Some of this is false absorption," said Rogers.

In part it reflects at least 1 million square feet that has been taken off the market as buildings are sold or converted into commercial or residential condominiums, he said.

Meanwhile, Chicago-based brokerage Grubb & Ellis Co. estimates that in 2006 only 573,743 square feet was absorbed downtown, leaving it with a vacancy rate of 16.4 percent, said research analyst Simone Schuppan.



Weak job creation

Despite the central location and solid transportation infrastructure that makes Chicago the type of global hub and gateway city that investors seek, its office market continues to struggle in the face of weak job creation.

By November Illinois had gained 74,600 jobs this year for its 16.8 million residents, and 2007 is expected to return slightly better results. That performance pales when compared to 1998, when strong economic growth generated 126,500 net new jobs, according to the Illinois Department of Employment Security.

The performance of the downtown rental market here, "is more about jobs than anything," said Albert H. Scherb Jr., president of Ameritus LLC, a Chicago commercial developer.

"No matter how you parse it, Chicago is still the capital of the Rust Belt, and when we lose jobs to foreign countries it hurts and makes a recovery slower," Scherb said.

Weak growth, high vacancies and soft rents foiled Goddard Investments' property search here.

"I'm amazed at the prices being paid compared to the real estate fundamentals," said Cairman and Chief Executive Robert Goddard, who bypassed Chicago to purchase a 275,000-square-foot office building in Dallas this year.

Chicago's record-breaking property sales in 2006, he said, "were driven by the capital available, not the office market performance."

This year Chicago commercial property transactions amounted to $5.1 billion, or $228 per square foot, compared with 2004 when sales were valued at about $2.4 billion, or $182 per square foot, said Stephen J. Livaditis, senior managing director at the Chicago office of Eastdil Secured LLC.

He expects 2007 to be another year of strong sales activity and rising prices. "With transactions in New York City now being priced over $1,000 per square foot we anticipate that Chicago's average price per square foot will continue to increase significantly," he said.

The eagerness to acquire real estate reflects national and global trends as well as local dynamics, said Dan Fasulo, research director at Real Capital Analytics, a New York firm that tracks property sales.

"In 2006 a wave of capital has focused on global U.S. cities, and Chicago is certainly one of them," he said.

On a cautionary note, however, fierce competition for buildings may cause investors to leap before they fully scrutinize property financial results, some observers warn.

Furthermore, landlords may welcome high sales prices when they sell buildings, but the high prices, coupled with rapidly rising construction costs, pose some risks for owners managing properties, said Tiffany Winne, a managing director in the Chicago office of New York-based brokerage Studley Inc.

They may want to raise rents. However, if tenants balk, she said, "Investors may find better uses for their money going forward."

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Erikson institute.

And that is a bummer about 625 Monroe being only 16-story, but does that mean the 601 W. Monroe plot they also control will stay undeveloped until they can build a bigger tower? But then, I suppose even a 16-story building is significantly better land use than the surface lot it is now.
     
     
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^About the Erikson Institute/111 W Illinois, I don't think it is 12 floors anymore based on this rendering from SCB:


Still a nice building though.
     
     
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I love the look of the Erikson Institute. It looks like it could plopped down in many a European buisness district. Building high end lateral modern office buildings give a good contrast and diversity. Not every office building has to have height to be quality.
     
     
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it's a got a very strong ABN AMRO Plaza thing going on.

but yeah, it looks to be under 12 now, so i'll get it off the page 1 list.
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I love the look of the Erikson Institute. It looks like it could plopped down in many a European buisness district.
That's because it looks like they were looking at Jahn's Halo building! There probably is one in Europe somewhere...
     
     
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Talk about a wasted opportunity
No kidding. This waste of available space is so sad. People won't care now, but when all of the historic buildings around there start to fall because all of the available land was Schaumburgized, they'll start to catch on.
     
     
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Not sure I like the new Erikson institute rendering. . . it looks less refined. . . Jahn's Ha-Lo (Shure) building is much more of the high quality stuff you would find in Europe. . . sans wide streets lined with big box retailers. . .
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^ I'd sacrifice almost any project happening now to get the Ha-Lo building transported to a River North spot... it's 4 star quality rarely seen (even in Europe).

The Erikson project is still nice as it really picks up a dreary stretch of LaSalle and cleans up the north face of the entire block. There's lots of surrounding building stock that's short and not going anywhere, so the loss of floors is (IMNHO) really a loss to the developer. Could of had many open floors of sun and views.

The west loop has always been a joke, I've just given up. Both the old and new structures are compromised by developers/architects with no vision.
     
     
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One Fifield turd after another.
     
     
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I don't remember seeing this mentioned yet. www.pioneerlocal.com/skylinenews/news/188583,sl-cedar-122806-s1.article


Hotel faces wrecking ball

December 28, 2006
By FELICIA DECHTER | STAFF WRITER
A proposal to raze the historic, Near North Side Cedar Hotel, 1112 -1118 N. State St. is raising the ire of community members and preservationists.

The historic property could become history if a developer's proposal to build a 20-story hotel is approved.

According to Maureen Mullady, account manager for DickinsonGroup, which represents the property owner, M Development, a "boutique" hotel with approximately 150-200 guest rooms, a restaurant and limited-meeting space, has been propposed. M Development also owns the Esquire Theater and Papa Milano properties.

An application for the Planned Development was filed with the city on Dec. 13, according to Connie Buscemi, spokeswoman for the city's Dept. of Planning and Development.

In keeping with the neighborhood's "vibrant" character, Mullady said, the State Street frontage will include the restaurant and hotel lobby. The development was designed to incorporate the Cedar's existing brick and terra-cotta masonry facade, she said, and both the facade and setback will remain as is.

There is a contract on the property, Mullady said, and M Development is seeking an upzoning to the same level or less than the surrounding properties. Further details regarding hotel brand and operator will be available once terms have been finalized, Mullady said.

The proposal is not sitting well with community members. Patty Stepak, president of the nearby Newberry Plaza Condo Association, said she and three building representatives met with developer Mark Hunt and his attorneys at the request of Ald. Burt Natarus, 42nd, who was unavailable for comment.

Stepak said she was "OK," with the hotel, but the prospect of an upzone didn't go over well.

"Everything was fine until then...that was the bomb that was dropped," Stepak said. "What happens then is they set precedence." Stepak is worried that the property directly to the hotel's south at the corner of State and Maple streets could also be bought.

"It's just what could happen to the whole landscape," she said. "We're very concerned what's put up at that corner."

So is the Washington Square Association. Coleen Blake, spokesman for the group, said WSA was, "disappointed to learn of plans to tear down the Cedar Hotel," when notifed by Skyline .

"The hotel is a beautiful historic building," Blake said. "Currently, the front of the building is used as an outdoor patio and it is a vibrant neighborhood spot where people can take their dogs and sit outside and have a drink. The site is presently an open inviting spot in a neighborhood that is rapidly becoming darker and more canyon-like with all of the development that is underway.

"WSA is also disappointed to learn that our alderman did not advise the neighborhood association about this potential development, or have the developer contact us. We expect to have some input as to how our neighborhood is developed."

The property is rated orange on the city's Historic Resources Survey, meaning it possesses historical significance and is subject to a 90-day delay if the developer applies for a demolition permit.

Architects Rissman and Hirschfeld began its construction in 1924, and its architectural style is listed as, "baroque, classical" on the city's Web site. According to Michael Moran, vice president of Preservation Chicago, even if the facade--which is "stunning," and a "visual feast" is saved, his organization also wants the recently-removed, large, ornamental centerpiece of the roofline returned. In fact, the group insists that be replaced.

"Why was this terra cotta centerpiece, a work of art, left intact from 1924 until 2006, only to be destroyed just a few months before the demolition plans were announced?," Moran asked. " Clearly, the removal of the centerpiece was related to the impending project at the site. The removal of the ornament is just plain wrong. The roofline should be restored to its appearance of a few months ago."

Moran said though the Cedar is listed as a "contributing building" in the Gold Coast Historic District as listed on the National Register of Historic Places, but that designation does not protect the building.

Although a Jan. 10 meeting is scheduled with Newberry Plaza residents about the project, Preservation Chicago also insists that a public meeting, "open to the entire neighborhood," be held, Moran said.
     
     
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^ if they preserve the facade and the nice open outdoor-seating space in front that is always bursting with activity on a pleasant summer evening, this should be a fine development, adding even more density and life. It would be a shame if either of those (facade or outdoor-seating) are lost, though.
     
     
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Oh Jesus, here come the Newberry Plaza idiots again. I fear a repeat of the Dr. Scholl's building disaster. I'll bet they are phoning the Alderman now, telling him just to tear the whole damn thing down instead of building a taller, more slender building.

This could be a very nice development if the Preservation Chicago points are met.
     
     
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Oh Jesus, here come the Newberry Plaza idiots again. I fear a repeat of the Dr. Scholl's building disaster. I'll bet they are phoning the Alderman now, telling him just to tear the whole damn thing down instead of building a taller, more slender building.

This could be a very nice development if the Preservation Chicago points are met.
Agreed. And bravo to Mike also for calling out the absurd notion of a meeting only with Newberry Plaza residents and not with the community at large. Those people are also single-handedly responsible for the lovely 30 w. Oak not being significantly taller....they are apparently entitled to be the only tall structure in the immediate area.
     
     
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