Edmonton Renaissance

[CMD UW]

/\ Hey feepa, settle dude. From my perspective, it seems like you took Thinners comments a little out of line.

[Kevin_foster]

Thanks to all the Calgarians coming in here and saying positivie things . It's great to see the two large Albertan cities cooperate together instead of head-to-head, and getting support from our rival city is something good.

Except our hockey teams. Sorry, cant vouch for the Flaming Calgarians.

Merry Xmas!

[Boris2k7]

Whoa, SHOtime is right, I think our interurban relations work is starting to do wonders...

[Arriviste]

So what intersection did the dancing cop frequent? Or does he frequent more correctly.
Is he placed as needed, or is he now used as a promotional tool?

[SHOFEAR]

/\ I believe he was directing fustrated shoppers into some mall.

[CMD UW]

/\ Kingsway Mall to be exact.

[SpongeG]

its funny where i come from Edmonton was always seen as the bigger more important city and calgary was seen as a cowboy town

[Distill3d]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

its funny where i come from Edmonton was always seen as the bigger more important city and calgary was seen as a cowboy town

I wanna come from where you come from then

Edmonton used to be the bigger more important city, but Calgary became the bigger city because it was more centralised to the rest of the province. Personally, i think what Edmonton needs to do in order to grow further is to market itself as the "Gateway to the North" rather then "The City of Champions". After all Edmonton is the last major city you pass through before going to Alaska, the NWT, Yukon and Nunavut.

[Coldrsx]

^more centralized? uh edmonton is in the middle....geography had only a small part of why calgary is where it is.

If say in 2007 encana and shell left town and took around 10,000 jobs....would calgary hurt?

[Claeren]

Originally Posted by Distill3d

I wanna come from where you come from then

Edmonton used to be the bigger more important city, but Calgary became the bigger city because it was more centralised to the rest of the province. Personally, i think what Edmonton needs to do in order to grow further is to market itself as the "Gateway to the North" rather then "The City of Champions". After all Edmonton is the last major city you pass through before going to Alaska, the NWT, Yukon and Nunavut.

Calgary was the bigger and more important city, then Edmonton became the capital and with all the government jobs and investment became the bigger and more important city, and it has taken Calgary ~100 years to regain its position as the larger and more important city and overcome the handicap that comes with not having well paid (Calgary funded welfare) government jobs to fuel ones economy.



Claeren.

[Hardhatdan]

I love this thread. Lets play a game of Flop.

[Arriviste]

Claeren would be a good army cook. He sure knows how to stir up the pot.

[Hardhatdan]

Or a good gynecologist, you know since he's really good at sounding like a douche.

[CMD UW]

/\ zzzzzzzzzzing

[Claeren]

I am already on record saying i like Edmonton.

Are you saying that Edmonton was larger then Calgary in the early years? That Edmonton being named Capital (In an effort to appease/reward a northern liberal voter base and to pull people northward) was not a massive economic engine? That Calgary has not now surpassed Edmonton in size?

In fact out of it all the only thing i think an objective person could question is whether or not i could possibly like Edmonton.



Claeren.

[Hardhatdan]

I didn't say you didn't like Edmonton, I said you sound like a douche...on every topic. Have a happy new year!

[LordMandeep]

Here , edmonton is seen as a very cold place with a great hockey team.

I think you would agree with the last one atleast..

Also Is there like A Toronto-Montreal conflict in the 60's and 70d's with Edmonton and Calgary today??

[SHOFEAR]

Clearen, if it wasn't for the political motivation of building canada's first trans contentental railroad through a more southern pass Calgary may not even be on the map. At that time CPR wanted to build the RR through the much more populated center that was Edmonton but eventually caved and built it through a tiny little fort called Calgary.

Our two cities have battled back and fourth as the more populated center, with some politically motivated move causing the shift. It's currently Calgary's turn, and good for them. We are stronger as a province having two relatively equal sized cities. But, the day will come, maybe in 10 or 25 years, where Edmonton will once again be the biggest for a period of time.

[Claeren]

Originally Posted by SHOtime

Clearen, if it wasn't for the political motivation of building canada's first trans contentental railroad through a more southern pass Calgary may not even be on the map. At that time CPR wanted to build the RR through the much more populated center that was Edmonton but eventually caved and built it through a tiny little fort called Calgary.

Our two cities have battled back and fourth as the more populated center, with some politically motivated move causing the shift. It's currently Calgary's turn, and good for them. We are stronger as a province having two relatively equal sized cities. But, the day will come, maybe in 10 or 25 years, where Edmonton will once again be the biggest for a period of time.

I guess there was the Klondike Gold Rush influence as well eh? What did the population swell by for it? I know it was a secondary route compared to the Alaska route but if they have(/had) Klondike Days in Edmonton it must have had some sort of significant influence on population... ?

Calgary was named a 'city' years before Edmonton though, no?

Was the RR decision poltical? I can see the national security angle but am unfamiliar with any other political reasons... ? Incidently, the entire city of Calgary was originally located in Ingelwood but was moved to its current downtown location to accomodate the wishes of the railway. There are archive photos of them pushing homes and buildings across the frozen Elbow River towards the new core.


Claeren.

[SHOFEAR]

Originally Posted by Claeren

I guess there was the Klondike Gold Rush influence as well eh? What did the population swell by for it? I know it was a secondary route compared to the Alaska route but if they have(/had) Klondike Days in Edmonton it must have had some sort of significant influence on population... ?

Was the RR decision poltical? I can see the national security angle but am unfamiliar with any other political reasons... ? Incidently, the entire city of Calgary was originally located in Ingelwood but was moved to its current downtown location to accomodate the wishes of the railway. There are archive photos of them pushing homes and buildings across the frozen Elbow River towards the new core.


Claeren.

yes, the southern route was to send a statement to the US that Canada had full intention of not lettimng the US expand north.

The connection the Klondike is vastly over estimated.

I would imagine that Edmonton being thge larger center up until the arrival of the RR was due to trading. The surrounding forest could support a much higher denisty of trapping thus you needed more support services. As a new settler from Europe given a plot of land it would make more sense to go to an area where more services existed, thus continueing the cycle. ....Just my theory.