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Old Posted Dec 22, 2006, 5:28 AM
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2007 Cranes
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-105st/104ave Tower (aka parliament 2)

more?
BTW, this condo project is called "Q". I know..sounds cheezy. Renderings are now public, just have to get some to scan...
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Old Posted Dec 22, 2006, 6:11 AM
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^ATCO's presence in Edmonton is rather large dont forget...

So true.........and handcuffed they are having the City frachise to deliver gas....and should they ever try to leave they would loose it
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 22, 2006, 6:15 AM
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Yes, I heard that a company from Toronto bought the Milner Building (as well as a couple other older downtown office buildings), with plans to upgrade the office space. While an envelope reno is probably in order, I'm not sure it will be along the same lines the Devonian (new designed curtainwall), or at least I hope not. They will probably run-up against the city preservationists, as the building is one of edmonton's first modern "skyscrapers" (1958). I'm not sure if it is on the city's A-list for historic preservation, but it has a lot of distinctly modernist features and nice materials which give it a pretty important place in Edmonton's architectural history.
damnation....and I wanted to buy a Condo in it when it was converted. I love the look, love the location and its curb side appeal. There is fabulous artwork inside byw.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 22, 2006, 6:15 AM
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So, all ye Edmonton forumers. A few of you (such as Cold) already know this but I will be back up in the hometown to visit family this weekend. I will probably get in sometime mid-afternoon, after which will be a drive down to the UofA (where I will be staying), and then a free night after that. Since I can't be in Calgary for our own meet tomorrow, it would be great to meet some of you. I promised Cold that I would PM him when I get in town, but it's always good to give a heads up.
That would be great. PM cold and set something up.

Re: 'Q' - I don't mind the name to be honest.
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Oilers have mayor onside for $1B downtown complex
End in sight for 32-year-old arena Rexall Place
Gordon Kent, The Edmonton Journal
Published: Friday, December 22, 2006
EDMONTON - Mayor Stephen Mandel says he would support a proposal to build a new hockey arena in downtown Edmonton that could be part of a $1-billion development.

A scheme has been floated for several months to move the Oilers to a state-of-the-art arena and entertainment complex in the heart of the city, and Mandel agreed Thursday that the days of Rexall Place as Edmonton's main hockey venue may be numbered.

"We think Northlands is looking at their building to see if it can be renovated or changed. If it can't be, (and) my guess is it would be difficult, then we need to start looking at a new stadium for Edmonton," he said in a year-end interview.


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Font: ****"That particular one is old. If we do (build a new structure), we need to be creative and not burden the taxpayers ... do something that will be sustained in the long term, but really make a statement about what we can do.''

An arena could cost $300 million-$400 million, with the whole project carrying a possible price tag of $1 billion if a hotel, office buildings and other facilities are included, Mandel said.

He didn't indicate whether any city money would be spent on such a scheme, but sees "great merit" in suggestions to construct it on the site of the downtown post office and the long-vacant land north of the CN Tower.

"We think you can design it in such a way to incorporate that as part of downtown. You link downtown, North Edge (residential development north of 105th Avenue), and Downtown East through a stadium that's going to be used a lot."

While Rexall Place, which opened in 1974, is one of the smallest arenas in the NHL, the Oilers have about seven years left on their lease with Northlands.

Canada Post still uses the downtown property for administrative offices and customer mail services, and has said it has no plans to move.

Mandel, who expects the groups involved to make a decision in 2007 on whether the project is feasible, said an arena would be busy with Oilers games, Oil Kings junior games, concerts and other events.

"I think it's exciting and I think the citizens of Edmonton are up for that. I think there's a view today that we can do, whereas in the past there was a feeling that this is Edmonton, we can't do," he said.

"There's a very positive attitude ... it's a great city right now."

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HUGE!

I knew Mandel was wanting this for a long time but for him to mention it as a $1billion project is massive. Let's hope it is done right and this comes to fruition.
     
     
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^ thats good news, so will mandel look for a proposal to be done by 2007?
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 22, 2006, 3:56 PM
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So..

There are some solid rumors now! Lets make a list of those SERIOUS rumors and those that we know of that aren't built. Maybe not the small ones like Zen or Maxx.... maybe just the ones downtown as well...

- My Rumor
- $1,000,000,000 New Oilers Pond.
- Essence
- "Q"
- Aurora
- Serenity
- Founders Ridge
- Parliament 2
- Icon 2
- 124th and 109th ?

Please add...
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Ok and as well - anyone who doesn't head down to the Leg. grounds this year is completely out of Santa's good books.

I commend them for putting on such an awesome light show - last night me and my wife headed over and they were serving hot chocolate in the Leg - and had a German Christmas choir do some songs inside of the leg.. pretty cool to see our public officials open the building for Hot Chocolate and song

Really, I dont know why there aren't pictures all over the place - they really really did a good job this year with the lights. Go see it - and take pictures, because the only camera me and my wife have is our stupid film camera - our expensive digital camera was swiped from a second cup
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Ok and as well - anyone who doesn't head down to the Leg. grounds this year is completely out of Santa's good books.

I commend them for putting on such an awesome light show - last night me and my wife headed over and they were serving hot chocolate in the Leg - and had a German Christmas choir do some songs inside of the leg.. pretty cool to see our public officials open the building for Hot Chocolate and song

Really, I dont know why there aren't pictures all over the place - they really really did a good job this year with the lights. Go see it - and take pictures, because the only camera me and my wife have is our stupid film camera - our expensive digital camera was swiped from a second cup

anywhere specifically you had to go? I'm not familiar with the leg grounds
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 22, 2006, 4:14 PM
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^ Not really. The North side of the Leg is all done up - the south side there is a skating rink and some lights.

North Entrance (main entrance) is where you go to get the hot chocolate and see the Carolers.
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So..

There are some solid rumors now! Lets make a list of those SERIOUS rumors and those that we know of that aren't built. Maybe not the small ones like Zen or Maxx.... maybe just the ones downtown as well...

- My Rumor
- $1,000,000,000 New Oilers Pond.
- Essence
- "Q"
- Aurora
- Serenity
- Founders Ridge
- Parliament 2
- Icon 2
- 124th and 109th ?

Please add...
What is this first building you listed? "My Rumor" Sounds mysterious!
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I took about 30 pics there last week, ill really try to ge them up.

As for 1 billion development....so all of stationlands and 300-400mil rink.

Done right this could be very very good.

Id like to see bacarat reconsider the west podium of the stationlands.

Id like to see superstore have towers

id like to see a new hyatt there

id like to see little "mall" there

id like to see TnT in the podium facing chinatown.

id like to see healy ford move there.

id like to see santa.
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any further info on the 116st & jasper lot?

if it can, will it be developed next year? (2007)
     
     
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Ok and as well - anyone who doesn't head down to the Leg. grounds this year is completely out of Santa's good books.
Went down last night for a stroll & some pix as well... they've done an extrordinary job of decorating the grounds this year!
     
     
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any further info on the 116st & jasper lot?

if it can, will it be developed next year? (2007)

given it is owned by gas boys and enviro issues, it might be a while, but that is a AA lot for mixed use retail/condo/B office....so
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Oilers have mayor onside for $1B downtown complex
So what exactly does it mean to have the mayor onside? It's not like he's giving anyone a blank cheque. Help me here...
     
     
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So what exactly does it mean to have the mayor onside? It's not like he's giving anyone a blank cheque. Help me here...
Put it this way, with the mayor on board, he can provide a clear directive to administration to support the proposal and perhaps provide funding for improvements to roadways, LRT / transit, etc.

@Kevin - Parliament 2 is the 'Q' project.

I curious about Essence.
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^ oh ok, great.

the $1b will be a new arena, a hotel and an office building. Hmmm.. Stationlands? I think so
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I know some of you on here were opposed to the whole stationlands proposal (ie. too far from core, etc)... does incorporating the new oilers arena into the project change your mind?
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I know some of you on here were opposed to the whole stationlands proposal (ie. too far from core, etc)... does incorporating the new oilers arena into the project change your mind?
In short? Absolutely no change in my opinion.

In long? A hockey rink isn't going to do one possible thing to increase the propensity for office leasing there. The Stationlands concept is so fundamentally flawed in design, layout, proposed use, location, ad infinitum, that it's not even funny. There are so many other superior sites downtown for EACH of the uses proposed at Stationlands. Agglomerating them all into a tertiary location just doesn't make sense. Why Qualico doesn't realize this just astounds me, and from my perspective furthers my opinion that they really just haven't got a clue of what to do and therefore cannot be expected to exectute a viable project.

Go ahead. Please build the rink. Just don't expect the Stationlands pig to fly.
     
     
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