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RE: Omega 2....interesting....

I wonder when we will see a condo surpass ICON tower 1 in height?
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Old Posted Dec 15, 2006, 4:51 PM
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Rents going up, vacancies slim
Ron Chalmers, The Edmonton Journal
Published: Friday, December 15, 2006
EDMONTON - Edmonton apartment rents are climbing while vacancies have fallen to their lowest level in five years.

"The apartment vacancy rate in the Edmonton region fell from 4.5 per cent in October 2005 to 1.2 per cent this October," Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation reported Thursday.

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Meanwhile, the number of renters moving to home ownership has fallen as interest rates and house prices have risen.

"On the supply side, rental apartment completions have been weak in 2006," CMHC noted. "A number of rental units have been converted to condominiums, further reducing the supply of apartments available for rent."

Average rents for two-bedroom units in the Edmonton region now are $808 -- up 10.4 per cent in the 12 months through October, 2006.

Compounding that, rental incentives were offered by 19 per cent of landlords in October, 2005 -- but by only three per cent this October.

In 2007, "demand for rental accommodation will continue to outstrip new supply, with apartment vacancies expected near 0.9 per cent," predicted Richard Goatcher, CMHC senior market analyst.

"A lot of landlords have told us there will be further increases in January," Goatcher said. In 2007, he expects rents to rise about 12 per cent.

The Canadian Federation of Apartment Associations issued a news release Thursday, arguing that vacancy rates are misleading.

"Even where vacancy rates are low, rental suites are still available because of tenant turnover," it said. "In Calgary, the vacancy rate is 0.5 per cent but the availability rate is 1.6 per cent."

In October, only 241 Calgary apartments were vacant -- but another 492 units were available through turnover.

The CFAA acknowledged that "due to very low incomes, some households cannot afford to rent apartments of the size they need."

CFAA president John Dickie recommended that the federal government help with income supports rather than construction subsidies.

"Portable housing allowances are the most cost-effective way to make housing affordable for low-income Canadians," he said. "Unlike many other housing programs, they also preserve choice for tenants."

CFAA member groups represent owners and managers of more than one million rental units.

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Old Posted Dec 15, 2006, 4:58 PM
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1.2% Vacancy??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

DEAR GOD - WHY DONT WE HAVE 10 CRANES LINING OUR SKY?
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^no friggen kidding....we should have condos everywhere, apartment towers like the 80's......yes i know economics have changed everyone.
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Man o Man, If I had the cash to kickstart a few condos...

Where else in the world would vacancy rates hit 1.2% and there be no condos being built (little or none )... :/

It's so insane, it baffles me.

All of us, let's start an investor group. Pool our resources, get more investors, build a 40 storey A+ condo tower called "the forum building"
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i keep hearing interesting rumours out there....anyone hear anything of late? I know i know...friday rumour mill, but im serious, some very interesting development rumours over the past week.
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i keep hearing interesting rumours out there....anyone hear anything of late? I know i know...friday rumour mill, but im serious, some very interesting development rumours over the past week.
Enlighten me with these rumors you are hearing, please
     
     
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^some i can some i cant, but ill share tonight the ones that are not private info.
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i keep hearing interesting rumours out there....anyone hear anything of late? I know i know...friday rumour mill, but im serious, some very interesting development rumours over the past week.

Have you heard the rumour about the guy who is going to get a 1905 chair broken over his back if he doesn't share?
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The more beer we feed cold, the more information comes out, I figure. Bullshit info, or not.
     
     
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Have you heard the rumour about the guy who is going to get a 1905 chair broken over his back if he doesn't share?
Ya, nasty rumour, but must be true, as I've heard it from multiple "sources" now.
     
     
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1.2% Vacancy??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

DEAR GOD - WHY DONT WE HAVE 10 CRANES LINING OUR SKY?
Tell me about it. Something's not right here!
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Man o Man, If I had the cash to kickstart a few condos...

Where else in the world would vacancy rates hit 1.2% and there be no condos being built (little or none )... :/

It's so insane, it baffles me.

All of us, let's start an investor group. Pool our resources, get more investors, build a 40 storey A+ condo tower called "the forum building"
Ill quote again! Come on, I'm a lawyer - we must have some business gurus around, maybe some property managers and such.. haha
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You're not the only ones actually. We've got maybe 100K sqft left in downtown Calgary, and only a single tall tower (40+ stories) under construction, with others waiting until 2007. Granted that's not very far away, but still...

What is it? Is it the labour crunch, the material and development costs? Is it the fault of the energy industry? What could be holding back Alberta so much as to not having explosive growth in construction? Are we too successful?

I find it bizarre that we don't have towers lining the QE2, and the ability to see skyscrapers in both Calgary and Edmonton from Red Deer (as a remider that we are both there). Aren't we supposed to be Canada's Dubai? Maybe it's Dubai's fault...
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You're not the only ones actually. We've got maybe 100K sqft left in downtown Calgary, and only a single tall tower (40+ stories) under construction, with others waiting until 2007. Granted that's not very far away, but still...

What is it? Is it the labour crunch, the material and development costs? Is it the fault of the energy industry? What could be holding back Alberta so much as to not having explosive growth in construction? Are we too successful?

I find it bizarre that we don't have towers lining the QE2, and the ability to see skyscrapers in both Calgary and Edmonton from Red Deer (as a remider that we are both there). Aren't we supposed to be Canada's Dubai? Maybe it's Dubai's fault...
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^some i can some i cant, but ill share tonight the ones that are not private info.
In the words of my Rugby brethren

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Why are we waiting so fucking long
Why are we waiting, could be fornicating
Oh, why are we waiting, oh why are we waiting
Oh, why are we waiting so fucking long
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The more (free) beer we feed cold, the more information comes out, I figure. Bullshit info, or not.

i like this
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on the cecil site this morning they have geomatic guys doing surveying and pegging,.
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Wow, un-related but check out Dallas Cowboys new proposed $1B Stadium proposal...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multime...y.cowboys.stadium/content.1.html?cnn=yes
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