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Does anyone know how well hotels are doing in Edmonton in regards to business and vacancy rates, particularly in downtown? Its surprising to me the lack of nice hotels in our downtown core. When the hell are we gonna see a nice hotel developed?

Also for Serenity, is it being built on an empty lot or are they tearing down a building to build Serenity?
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^ Funny you bring that up.

Feepa - I really do have a company Xmas Party on Friday ... seeing it's so close to Xmas, why would that be hard to believe.... ;/
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Serenity is on the old Mcdonalds site on jasper and 118st....so yes tear down.

As for hotel #'s...i dont have particulars but ive heard from more than a few people they are very very good. I honestly believe it is time to see another Brand in the core...Hyatt, Hilton....that kinda thing.

As for what kind of office tower will we see.....likely a 20 storey ING or ENBRIDGE size and quality.
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Old Posted Dec 12, 2006, 6:27 PM
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^ Here's a good measure.

Call three hotels downtown and ask if they have any vacancies over the holidays... might provide good measure, but also might be bad .. not sure how busy the hotels are during Xmas.. I'm not in the biz.
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Old Posted Dec 12, 2006, 6:33 PM
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^weekdays are busier than weekends...typically.
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^ Here's a good measure.

Call three hotels downtown and ask if they have any vacancies over the holidays... might provide good measure, but also might be bad .. not sure how busy the hotels are during Xmas.. I'm not in the biz.
One of the slowest times of the year by far, at least in downtown Edmonton, is between Christmas and New Years.
     
     
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^Coming into downtown in the mornings and leaving at night, I can see the Sutton Place Hotel, and 75% of the rooms have lights on, on a regular basis
     
     
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Heard on the radio this morning that the city did a study on intersections inEdmonton and 23rd ave/Gateway was the busiest (I think) of all intersections in edm.. geeee big surprise there.


Fak.. get going with this project already!
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Heard on the radio this morning that the city did a study on intersections inEdmonton and 23rd ave/Gateway was the busiest (I think) of all intersections in edm.. geeee big surprise there.


Fak.. get going with this project already!
Heres the Article in the Journal

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23rd Ave., Gateway Blvd. accident prone
Construction on $125 million intersection overpass to begin next summer

Duncan Thorne
The Edmonton Journal


Tuesday, December 12, 2006



CREDIT: Rick MacWilliam, The Journal, File
Traffic at 23rd Avenue and Gateway Blvd. is some of the heaviest in the city.

EDMONTON -- The high-traffic intersection at Gateway Boulevard and 23rd Avenue is the city's top collision spot, latest results show.

The intersection, the main entry point to South Edmonton Common, had 100 accidents in the first seven months of the year, adding to the case for an overpass, says an official.

Construction is set to start next summer, at an estimated cost of $125 million.

Craig Walbaum, senior traffic engineer, says there are other intersections where the collision rate -- as opposed to the total number of crashes -- is higher. The traffic circle at 107th Avenue and 142nd Street, for instance, has about four accidents per million vehicles.

Gateway at 23rd Avenue has about half that rate but leads in accident totals because of its shear volume of traffic, Walbaum said Monday. And a rate of two collisions per million vehicles is still high, even if not the highest.

"At peak periods of the day there's no more capacity to handle the cars that are there," he said. "When you have that high a number of vehicles entering through an intersection there's a tendency to see a higher number of collisions."

Further, crashes at the Gateway intersection often produce injuries. Up to the end of July, it was the site of 43 injury collisions, trailing only the 137th Avenue and 97th Street crossroad, which had a tally of 45.

Walbaum said an overpass at Gateway and 23rd Avenue will give the intersection more capacity and improve safety.

Transportation staff are reviewing the causes behind the number of injury accidents at 137th Avenue and 97th Street. One reason is 97th Street has several lanes, and traffic from the north is travelling at higher speeds before the intersection. He said there's no plan for an overpass but options include changes in lane design, street signs and timing traffic lights.

The traffic circle at 107th Avenue and 142nd Street leads with its collision rate, but its accidents tend to be at lower speeds, Walbaum said. "There's a lot of fender benders or rear-end type collisions, bumper to bumper."

The transportation department normally produces accident numbers in the spring, for the previous calendar year. Its latest numbers, for the first seven months of 2006, are at the request of council.

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^this damn thing should have been built by now....head + wall = my new sport.
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I was out for lunch today at Hudsons downtown, and looking south on 112th street, there sure are a good number of cranes lining the horizon
     
     
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/\ that was wicked. To be honest, we have no idea how huge YPR will be for Edmonton.
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Awesome news!!!!
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Housing plan gets green-light (12:54 p.m.)
Gordon Kent, edmontonjournal.com
Published: Tuesday, December 12, 2006
A controversial plan to sell 20 vacant school sites for affordable starter homes was easily passed today by city council.

People in several communities complained there wasn't any public consultation on the scheme, which they fear will take away land now being used as parks, overcrowd local schools and introduce row housing that won't fit in their neighbourhoods.

But councillors said residents will have input into the design and location of the developments.
They voted 11-2 to pass third reading of zoning bylaws needed to implement the program, made public last month in a deal between the city, school boards and the province that will create up to 1,000 housing units.


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They will pay market value to a developer for a structure, with the city holding a second mortage on the land.

"We're trying to build housing which is much needed in this city," Mayor Stephen Mandel said.

Coun. Bryan Anderson, who voted against final reading of the bylaws despite earlier supporting them, wanted a public hearing held in which people could speak about all 20 sites before the zoning was approved. "We do not need to tell people 'don't worry, we're making the right decision on your behalf.'"

Officials will now begin detailed work on each of the sites, which can still be deleted from the program if they're determined to be appropriate.

Construction on the first three to five sites could begin in 2008.

Gordon Kent will have more on this story in Wednesday's Edmonton Journal.
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my only issue is the $$$ they are talking...if you make 60k-80k and cant afford housing.....

this should be for people who make 40-60k.....

"****While many details haven't been resolved, the program will target young families or couples with incomes of $60,000 to $80,000 who can't afford to buy homes in Edmonton's booming economy. "
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my only issue is the $$$ they are talking...if you make 60k-80k and cant afford housing.....

this should be for people who make 40-60k.....

"****While many details haven't been resolved, the program will target young families or couples with incomes of $60,000 to $80,000 who can't afford to buy homes in Edmonton's booming economy. "
A young family of 4 making a household income of 60 - 80K only stretches so far
     
     
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A young family of 4 making a household income of 60 - 80K only stretches so far
Exactly, I would say that couples making just 40k will qualify and a family of 4 or more making only 80k will qualify.
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A young family of 4 making a household income of 60 - 80K only stretches so far
very true...i just wish they clarified...cause i dont want this program to be directed to the wrong people.
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