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Old Posted Jul 19, 2006, 5:43 PM
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Brown, you said you worked on Perry right?

any idea what they are doing next to 1st Baptist where they tore down the Hardin's office furniture place (looks like the Kwik Stop is next).
That corner can be seen from my front parking lot. They are leveling the whole thing all the way to Court St.... my first guess was mass parking for the church. If they could incorporate some kind of boardwalk that would be neat.
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2006, 5:49 PM
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What's the word on the condos at the parking deck? Article said mid-July. I'm real anxious to see the first mixed-use/residential structure go up in decades........

Does the parking deck have to go up first? What kind of "retail" should we expect in these "new" parking decks?

Intermodal is going to be HUGE. I can't wait to see the riverwalk!

The convention center parking deck is a monster too..... isn't there going to be fitness/spa/pool on top of it?

Anyone know about roads being repaved, new streetscape in the riverfront/hotel area?

Does anyone have any word on when the fountain loop will be resumed.. I haven't seen one person touch the grounds where the work began about 2 months ago. Bright said 90 days, looks like that time is coming up. He also promised new street scape for Dexter.
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2006, 9:26 PM
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Brown, you said you worked on Perry right?

any idea what they are doing next to 1st Baptist where they tore down the Hardin's office furniture place (looks like the Kwik Stop is next).
I wondered what was going on there a week or so ago and took some pictures but my camera went on the fritz and I couldn't upload them.

They're a little old now but here they are anyway...
















Here's a pic of Capitol Towers Apts. (rarely seen)





Here's some work going on at the convention center. Of course the deck is farther along than the pics show...I saw it the other day and it is huge.







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Old Posted Jul 20, 2006, 6:17 PM
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Does anyone have any idea if there will be concerts, larger entertainment venues, etc as a result of a larger/nicer convention center? I've noticed lots of mainstream artist/bands playing at convention centers in plenty of mid-sized cities, some even that have a smaller population that us.
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2006, 6:20 PM
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Unfortunately, even after this, Montgomery won't have a decent 'arena'.

I'd suspect that we'd get some mid-low carders with the 2500 seat theater (isn't that what it's supposed to sit?), and with the ampitheater. We have several small places (the Hank Williams Museum has a 200 seater... who knew...), but not a single large place.

Maybe in the future.
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Unfortunately, even after this, Montgomery won't have a decent 'arena'.

I'd suspect that we'd get some mid-low carders with the 2500 seat theater (isn't that what it's supposed to sit?), and with the ampitheater. We have several small places (the Hank Williams Museum has a 200 seater... who knew...), but not a single large place.

Maybe in the future.
How big is the Ganett(sic) Center and how old is it?
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2006, 7:16 PM
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Unfortunately, even after this, Montgomery won't have a decent 'arena'.

I'd suspect that we'd get some mid-low carders with the 2500 seat theater (isn't that what it's supposed to sit?), and with the ampitheater. We have several small places (the Hank Williams Museum has a 200 seater... who knew...), but not a single large place.

Maybe in the future.
So a concert can't be put on using all the space in the center? I didn't know all concerts had to be in an arena of some sort.
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2006, 8:09 PM
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How big is the Ganett(sic) Center and how old is it?
Garrett Coliseum was built in the late 50's and is in dire need of updating... It can seat up to 10,000 when seating is allowed on the floor, ~8000 in just the seats.

It's a decent place for car shows and rodeos, but it doesn't have A/C... and gets hot in a hurry.

I've got great memories of the place though, Harlem Globetrotter game, NWA 'rasslin', monster trucks, rodeo's, a couple of concerts, Maulers games, the fair. Even got to see it filled up for a 'free' Jeff Foxworthy show a couple of years ago.
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The state could make a lot more money if they would invest in updating their coliseum. Even though it's old as heck, they could have at least made it look more attractive a long time ago.

It may be better to tear it down and build a new one. I believe if the state can invest in a dome for Birmingham, it can at least invest in upgrading what it already owns. If anything, build it downtown where the rest of the state buildings are.

I agree, Thoraudio. Downtown needs an arena; which is what the mayor originally wanted but was convinced by RSA that their convention center plan would be a lot more functional.

I think the city may be waiting on a private developer to build an arena downtown...maybe even the state to replace the antiquated coliseum(?)

Of course, don't hold your breath, though...
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Greetings:

I have been looking at this thread for a few weeks and finally decided to join. I actually work downtown in one of the tallest buildings. I won't say what just yet. I hope that I can contribute some good pictures of the construction downtown (I have a very good view.)

Don't remember seeing this in any of the posts but I thought it would be good to have:
http://www.pchresorts.com/pdfs/Hotel%20SPA_11x17.pdf
http://www.pchresorts.com/pdfs/FP%20color_11x17.pdf
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Greetings:

I have been looking at this thread for a few weeks and finally decided to join. I actually work downtown in one of the tallest buildings. I won't say what just yet. I hope that I can contribute some good pictures of the construction downtown (I have a very good view.)

Don't remember seeing this in any of the posts but I thought it would be good to have:
http://www.pchresorts.com/pdfs/Hotel%20SPA_11x17.pdf
http://www.pchresorts.com/pdfs/FP%20color_11x17.pdf

Welcome to the forum kevinlpugh! Glad you decided to join. Thanks for the links. They helped a lot.

I can't wait to see the pics you will be able to get from whatever building you work in. Of course, we'll know which one once you post them.
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Old Posted Jul 21, 2006, 2:52 AM
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Welcome. We're getting a good little core of people here, that's a good thing

BTW... A.C. went out this evening... it's only 80+ in here in the house now....
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Whoa! Sorry to hear about that, thoraudio. A fan will just blow around more hot air.


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I wonder how many forumers that makes now? Perhaps enough for a....
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Old Posted Jul 21, 2006, 5:08 AM
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Whoa! Sorry to hear about that, thoraudio. A fan will just blow around more hot air.




I wonder how many forumers that makes now? Perhaps enough for a....
Downtown meet.
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Old Posted Jul 21, 2006, 5:15 AM
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Downtown meet.
Ya know, the AL.com ppl on the Montgomry Forum have meets all the time at the "Eastside Grille", having something to do with the "Greg Show"?

What is with Montgomery's obsession with local Talk Radio Shows, and is this "Greg Show" any good?

And how's the food at "Eastside Grille" and what do they serve?
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Old Posted Jul 21, 2006, 5:17 AM
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Decison on loop few months away

By Marty Roney
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PRATTVILLE—The route of a northern bypass through Autauga and Elmore counties probably won’t be decided for another three or four months, officials said during a public hearing Thursday night.

The proposed four-lane divided highway will act as a bypass through the two counties, with Interstate 85 in Montgomery serving as the eastern anchor and U.S. 80 in Lowndes County as the western anchor.

The Alabama Department of Transportation displayed three proposed routes during the public hearing for the project at the Prattville City Hall.

Selecting a route is a balancing act, said Robby Anderson, city engineer for Prattville.

“You want it to be far enough away from built up areas to act as a bypass, but not so far away people wouldn’t use it,” he said. “We will use the comments we receive tonight to come up with the best route.”

A final decision on the route should be selected and presented following additional public meetings in three to four months, Anderson said.

A major consideration in the construction of the bypass is the proposed extension of I-85 west from Montgomery to the Mississippi line. One of three routes being considered would go through southern Autauga County.
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This is news to me... what's this loop about? Does it have anything to with the loop that was proposed to run through Montgomery?
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Shopping center moguls pump millions into River Region

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McClinton and Company Inc. developed the country's first RAVE Motion Pictures 16-screen theater at the Festival Plaza shopping center in Montgomery.

MONTGOMERY - When Buddy McClinton describes his commercial real estate company he said it's a small firm.

The president of McClinton & Company Inc. is being modest. It may be a small firm with a staff of 20, but there is nothing small about his company. Although he was mum about numbers, McClinton did say that the five projects the company is currently working on total $65 million.

But McClinton and Company are actually working on six projects and that $65 million does not include the largest project they are working on - the 950,000-plus square-foot High Point Town Center in Prattville with Bass Pro Shops and three department stores as anchors. Those six projects are a combined 2 million-plus square feet.

And speaking of big, what about Wal-Mart, the country's largest retailer and McClinton's largest client. McClinton is currently building Wal-Marts at the Midtown Plaza in Montgomery; Hillcrest Center in Millbrook and Chantilly Station in East Montgomery. McClinton told the Central Alabama Business Journal in June 2004 that the 300,000 square-foot Midtown Plaza project would cost between $25 million-$30 million.

Another major client is RAVE Motion Pictures theaters and the company has RAVE-anchored projects at Bayou Plaza in Pensacola, Fla., and at Valley Bend at Jones Farm in Huntsville. Those two projects were on a development basis, where McClinton and Company owns the properties.

McClinton and Company is primarily a development firm. "We are responsible for all the site work, we build the project, we oversee the construction of the project, we own the project, we promote the project, we lease our properties and we finance all our properties," McClinton said.

But the 15½-year-old company also has a brokerage division directed by David McClinton, senior vice president for development and brokerage.
"David has expanded the brokerage division of the company," his father said. "Prior to joining the firm, we were just a development company."

Buddy McClinton said he would like to see his company strike a 50-50 balance between the development and brokerage components over the next 10-15 years. Now the company is 80 percent development and 20 percent brokerage.

David McClinton guided deals with RAVE Motion Pictures in Baton Rouge, La., and Destin, Fla. Those two projects were done on a brokerage basis.

"You are paid a fee to deliver a tenant to another site - that's a pure brokerage deal," David McClinton said. "What we really do is tell (a client) everything that's going on in the marketplace. Then we take them to the market on a trip. We'll look at all the options we think they have and the client will make the call. We will proceed with where they want to be and negotiate the deal."

McClinton and Company is planning to expand the RAVE-anchored Festival Plaza shopping center in Montgomery. Preliminary plans call for one additional outparcel and 60,000 square feet of retail space.

"Festival Plaza has had tremendous success since its opening in December of 2000," David McClinton told the Montgomery Advertiser. "We look for the growth in East Montgomery to continue and are excited to have a top-notch location in such a great area of the city."

The company will also expand the Wal-Mart-anchored Premiere Place shopping center in Prattville. Buddy McClinton said that Belk will add 20,000 square feet, bringing the department store's total to 75,000 square feet. Other preliminary plans are adding 35,000 square feet of retail space to the shopping center and two more outparcels.

It's obvious that Buddy McClinton is bullish on Central Alabama, which has benefited from the thousands of jobs created by Korean automaker Hyundai and its suppliers.

"All of these outlying areas are feeding into this Central Alabama core because this is where the job center is. They come here, they work, they earn their money and when they are on their way home, we want to be able to give them convenient, quality shopping atmosphere and opportunities.

"And that's why we are working east with Chantilly; we are working midtown with Ann Street and we are working north in Prattville and Millbrook."
McClinton and Company is also looking at Lee County. "There is nothing we want to announce right now, but we like Lee County a lot and it is a great growth market."

Buddy McClinton said the area's only drawback is a shortage of land for large developments.

Land was not problem in Prattville, where the High Point Town Center is being developed on a 140-acre site. That will enable the shopping center to meet the needs of any customer and for Buddy McClinton it's all about synergy.

"It's all about trying to put as many components as you can that can satisfy as many of the wants and desires of customers as you possibly can. That's what we will be doing at High Point Town Center - we will have all of the different types of components whether it be Bass Pro or traditional department stores, bookstores, clothing stores and electronics stores."

But just as important as shopping is eating.

"Restaurants are not only important to us, but the tenants are finding the restaurants to be important," David McClinton said. "They really want that element of family sit-down dining as part of the center. They know it brings people there, keeps them for a while and gives them an extra shot of shopping at their store. It is literally a co-tenancy requirement for some (retailers)."

Of course to feed those appetites you need a variety of restaurants and Buddy McClinton promises that all patrons will find a restaurant to their liking at High Point Town Center.

"We will go from the highest-priced points to the middle-price points," he said. "We will go from the finest-quality steak that you could possibly have to the best hamburger you could possibly have."

Location has always been the key factor in real estate and interstate access is vital for shopping centers. That's why Prattville and Millbrook are prime regions along with Greenville and Auburn-Opelika.

"If you have quality, convenient shopping with good selections along that interstate network, you are going to have a great chance to be successful," Buddy McClinton said.
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When I first saw the Belk store in Prattville, I thought Belk was some type of discount clothing store along the lines of Kohls or Goodys. Its relatively small footprint, compared to Parisian and Dillards stores, belies the fact that its a traditional department store.
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When I first saw the Belk store in Prattville, I thought Belk was some type of discount clothing store along the lines of Kohls or Goodys. Its relatively small footprint, compared to Parisian and Dillards stores, belies the fact that its a traditional department store.
Ever seen the Belk at the Galleria in B'ham?
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