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Old Posted May 1, 2026, 9:02 PM
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Given how deep they dug down for Oceanwide, do yall think they can build as high as 910ft like previously, or even higher? Hopefully they keep the same height or go higher...
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The Oceanwide Center in San Francisco features a foundation designed to avoid the sinking issues of nearby buildings by anchoring, through piles that run up to 270–300 feet deep, into the dense Franciscan formation bedrock.
Given the substantial base foundation’s size and width, it is technically feasible to increase the height structurally. However, the site is constrained by a zoning height limit of 850 feet. A new design could potentially reach a slightly higher height, but the increase would be almost imperceptible unless zoning regulations are amended. Regardless of the final design dimensions, I remain optimistic with Gensler as architects.
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Given the substantial base foundation’s size and width, it is technically feasible to increase the height structurally. However, the site is constrained by a zoning height limit of 850 feet. A new design could potentially reach a slightly higher height, but the increase would be almost imperceptible unless zoning regulations are amended. Regardless of the final design dimensions, I remain optimistic with Gensler as architects.
What about air rights?
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BXP Signs on as Development Advisor for Unfinished Oceanwide Tower Mixed-Use Project in San Francisco

https://yieldpro.com/2026/08/oceanwide-plaza-site/
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Big update - Renderings have dropped for the new design, along with a new name: Fifty at First.







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https://www.sfchronicle.com/realestate/article/downtown-tower-fiftyatfirst-oceanwide-22428915.php


Looks like a strong nod to the original design, albeit a slight downgrade in my opinion.
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^ Hard to tell exactly but it appears the taper is gone so it seems to have lost some of that elegance of the original design. Glad they still kept the seesaw pattern and the cross bracing though. Hopefully this means that we will be seeing construction shortly.
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Exclusive: Downtown S.F.’s biggest eyesore could become its next iconic tower. Here’s the first look
By Laura Waxmann, Staff Writer Sep 15, 2026

For years, the fenced-off construction pit at First and Mission streets has looked like a missing tooth breaking up the rhythm of glass and granite towers in San Francisco’s Financial District — a deep void left behind by the collapse of what was supposed to be the two-tower Oceanwide Center project. New renderings expected to be filed Tuesday with the city offer the first detailed glimpse of the reimagined office building developers hope will soon fill that hole: a 910-foot skyscraper now called “Fifty at First.” Rising from the old project’s existing foundation at 50 First St., the proposed tower would become one of the most significant new additions to the city’s skyline in a decade. It would stand nearly as tall as the 1,070-foot Salesforce Tower and just a block away, while potentially becoming the first major office building conceived for the post-pandemic market to reach construction.

The renderings for Fifty at First show a jagged crown with a distinctive silhouette. A lattice of glass and criss-crossed steel bracing wraps its exterior that’s designed to appear to change with the city’s shifting fog and light. At street level, its lobby would span much of the block with a 50-foot high ceiling inviting light and activity into the building. It's a nod to the original Oceanwide Center project, designed by Foster + Partners as two striking glass towers with a large public urban room at their base. Food and beverage programming will also be part of Fifty at First's design, which remains in early development.

The project is not just an exercise in architectural expression. It’s also a test to find out if downtown is ready to reclaim its place as the region’s economic center of gravity following a years-long downturn at a time when office vacancy remains near historic highs and demand still trails supply. The San Francisco Recovery Fund, the project’s developer, is competing with three other development groups for the same anchor lease that could unlock the financing needed to send construction crews onto the site. The partners behind the Recovery Fund have assembled a team that brings in global architecture firm Gensler, commercial real estate brokerage JLL as well as BXP, one of the country’s largest owners and developers of premium office buildings, including Salesforce Tower and 535 Mission St., to design and market their project to a range of tenants, from banks to artificial intelligence companies. “We are pursuing the tenants that want the premium spaces in the market,” said Dan Kingsley, who alongside Jay Yang leads the Recovery Fund. “We’re trying to refine the design and yet make sure that the constructability has been thought through. We want to make sure that we’re tailoring the amenities to what the market really wants.” Kingsley and Yang are among a handful of developers eyeing an opening in the market. While older, less distinctive office buildings are struggling to win or retain tenants, demand has steadily concentrated in the city’s limited supply of “trophy” spaces. That dynamic was on display earlier this year at the recently renovated Transamerica Pyramid, where a top-floor space commanded the highest rent ever recorded in San Francisco.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/realestate/article/downtown-tower-fiftyatfirst-oceanwide-22428915.php
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Looks ugly but who cares, build it
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This looks really nice, but the earlier proposal was much better. Anyway, this will be a beautiful tower.
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Looks ugly but who cares, build it
Haha I don't think it's that bad, looks the same height too.
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Somewhat reminds me of the Bow in Calgary, only less graceful. It'll still be a fine addition, a modern 555 California.
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So what about the second building that originally going was to be residences with a Waldorf Astoria? I know Oceanwide dumped the hotel part toward the end of their ownership.

ABC 7 had a story on this and they finished with a 2028 start to a 2031 finish. If all the planets align , this might be possible.
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So what about the second building that originally going was to be residences with a Waldorf Astoria? I know Oceanwide dumped the hotel part toward the end of their ownership.
The renderings seem to show something lurking behind the main facade. Hopefully some more details will emerge soon on what's going on there, especially since the back side of the building will be quite visible from much of the city.
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^ Hard to tell exactly but it appears the taper is gone so it seems to have lost some of that elegance of the original design. Glad they still kept the seesaw pattern and the cross bracing though. Hopefully this means that we will be seeing construction shortly.
I think there's a slight taper there, but it's all been sanded down to be more 'cost-effective' for sure.
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A website launched that shows some additional visuals:

https://fiftyatfirst.com
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So this isn’t a Foster design, just streamlining the original? I don’t mind it but find it weird that another architecture firm would agree to basically just copy the other design but VE it. I agree the facade reminds me a bit of the Bow.
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While I prefer the original version, this is very nice. Also, in my opinion, it's better than Foster's design for 625 Madison in New York.


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Here are the renders from the site:





https://fiftyatfirst.com/
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So what about the second building that originally going was to be residences with a Waldorf Astoria? I know Oceanwide dumped the hotel part toward the end of their ownership.

ABC 7 had a story on this and they finished with a 2028 start to a 2031 finish. If all the planets align , this might be possible.
I haven't come across any updates on the second building that was supposed to be a hotel. For now I'll update the title to reflect just the current project.
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The renderings seem to show something lurking behind the main facade. Hopefully some more details will emerge soon on what's going on there, especially since the back side of the building will be quite visible from much of the city.
The website says side-core construction which would indicate vertical service shafts such as elevators, stairs, restrooms, and mechanical systems on the back side of the building. Still no renderings of the de facto backside as of yet.
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