Manitoba | Highways

[bomberjet]

Probably just for consistency with the rest of 17.

[Carboy15]

Maybe when Ontario finished twinning Hwy 17 from 673 to the Kenora Bypass. They possibly could raise it to 100 km/h West of Kenora, but not sure if the design speed would allow 110 km/h.

But my guess is when the twinning of Hwy 1 from Ontario to Falcon Lake West is completed, maybe they would finally consider raising it to 110 from Whiteshell to Deacons Corner. But I still think that wherever it's twinned it should be 110.

[Carboy15]

I think I know why Hwy 1 isn't 110km/h East of Winnipeg: Wildlife. Likely if improvements could be made to the Highway regarding wildlife, it could drastically improve safety. They could possibly use fencing or Texas gates, but it would have to extend for miles. I mean, Montana and Western North Dakota has those features alongside I-94. But we probably don't have the budget for that. This is also why it would be great if we had a federally funded Highway system.

[Dengler Avenue]

^ In Ontario, most of the newly divided highways are generally designed for 120 km/h or 130 km/h. In fact, the document about the 4-laning of Highway 17 even speaks of future interchanges, showing that MTO treats the divided portion of Highway 17 as staged freeway. (M.I.T., learn from us. )
That said, it will be a hard sell to tell MTO to increase the speed limit to 110 km/h on divided sections with crossroads.

[Andy6]

Originally Posted by Carboy15

I think I know why Hwy 1 isn't 110km/h East of Winnipeg: Wildlife. Likely if improvements could be made to the Highway regarding wildlife, it could drastically improve safety. They could possibly use fencing or Texas gates, but it would have to extend for miles. I mean, Montana and Western North Dakota has those features alongside I-94. But we probably don't have the budget for that. This is also why it would be great if we had a federally funded Highway system.

I’m pretty sure it was 70 mph when they first divided the highway east of Steinbach but when they converted to metric I seem to remember it went directly to 100 km/h. That was in the oil crisis era when the U.S. went to 55 mph limits.

[bryan_ca]

Why doesn't Manitoba have freeways?
Video from "That Highway Guy". Pretty generic, but...on topic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aiUT57IBlE

[cammy85]

Originally Posted by Carboy15

Yeah. The Rubblizer is called Antigo, and it looks like a tractor, but with Pistons at the back of it.

Technically the reason I would think Hwy 75 is only 110 from US to St Jean is because entering Morris MB, you slow down to 50km/h. Therefore if it were a consistent divided expressway bypassing Morris and St Norbert, it would probably be 110km/h worthy.

Alberta is 110, yet goes through Strathmore at 60 km/h. But that's Alberta. In Manitoba, I'm sure that's not the reason why 75 is the way it is.

Once the twinning from Virden westbound was finished years ago, the speed limit freom there increased while the rest of MB remained at 100 km/h My guess is that was because the TCH slowed down for traffic lights in Brandon, 16 and Elie.

Now was for Portage, while the TCH does go around Portage to the south, it's still a bypass. Many 110 km/h highways slow down when traversing major cities. Moose Jaw and Swift Current are like this.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by cammy85

Alberta is 110, yet goes through Strathmore at 60 km/h. But that's Alberta. In Manitoba, I'm sure that's not the reason why 75 is the way it is.

Once the twinning from Virden westbound was finished years ago, the speed limit freom there increased while the rest of MB remained at 100 km/h My guess is that was because the TCH slowed down for traffic lights in Brandon, 16 and Elie.

Now was for Portage, while the TCH does go around Portage to the south, it's still a bypass. Many 110 km/h highways slow down when traversing major cities. Moose Jaw and Swift Current are like this.

The Government of Alberta has been looking into a Strathmore by-pass from the last decade, and due to the population growth, it is probably only a matter of time before construction begins on it. There are also long term plans to reroute the TCH around the south of Medicine Hat.

[Carboy15]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/...hike-on-trans-canada-highway-75-1.727857

This is an Article about raising speed limits from 2008. They said no to the Perimeter and Hwy 1 East due to Intersections and Narrow Shoulders.

[BorealLynx]

Originally Posted by Carboy15

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/...hike-on-trans-canada-highway-75-1.727857

This is an Article about raising speed limits from 2008. They said no to the Perimeter and Hwy 1 East due to Intersections and Narrow Shoulders.

Shoulders should no longer be a problem. Intersections, on the other hand.. although I'd say they are no better or worse off than the intersections on Hwy 1 west.

[bomberjet]

The could easily deal with the number of intersections by closing every second median opening and access from 101 to Richer. I'm sure this will trigger the need for traffic signals in their eyes, so maybe just leave as is lol

I would like to see a plan for PTH 1 and PTH 75 similar to what's be done for Perimeter.

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

The could easily deal with the number of intersections by closing every second median opening and access from 101 to Richer. I'm sure this will trigger the need for traffic signals in their eyes, so maybe just leave as is lol

I would like to see a plan for PTH 1 and PTH 75 similar to what's be done for Perimeter.

That would be very good. At least to let the people know that someone is paying attention. It’s such a lay up to plan for it, even if the money is available currently to do it.

[Dengler Avenue]

^ With the current trade spat, I would rather that we focus on TCH first.

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

^ With the current trade spat, I would rather that we focus on TCH first.

Even with the trade spat, it will continue being a well travelled road. We also can't fight forever and it would be inconceivable that both countries would indefinitely turn their backs on one another. I'm just talking about doing the planning, which ought to be done either way. IMO 75 should be part of the TCH system, which we should think of more like the interstate in terms of its use, with multiple connections and routes rather than a single EW highway.

[Curmudgeon]

Re: Why doesn't Manitoba have freeways?

Not enough money honey, would be the short answer, but hopefully, one day, we'll see a fully limited access Trans-Canada, PTH 100/101 and PTH 75. There are very short stretches of freeway at present on 100/101, but before long you will encounter a set of traffic lights.

At present, all of the above have intersections that are downright dangerous given the volume of transport traffic. The TC & Yellowhead 16 intersection perhaps the most noteworthy. I believe improvements are coming.

I think I'm correct in saying that Winnipeg is by far the largest city in North America without any freeways in the urban area, but that may not be entirely a bad thing, depending on your perspective.

[Biff]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

I think I'm correct in saying that Winnipeg is by far the largest city in North America without any freeways in the urban area, but that may not be entirely a bad thing, depending on your perspective.

Winnipeg is one of the only significant cities on the planet without a freeway of any kind. It is pretty amazing when you think of it.

I cringe every time I hear a politician talking about how Winnipeg/Manitoba is a transportation and logistics hub. Truckers must hate crossing any boarder into Manitoba.

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by Biff

Winnipeg is one of the only significant cities on the planet without a freeway of any kind. It is pretty amazing when you think of it.

I cringe every time I hear a politician talking about how Winnipeg/Manitoba is a transportation and logistics hub. Truckers must hate crossing any boarder into Manitoba.

Yeah, it would help our credibility a lot to just accept that we can’t cook up a unique solution to every problem at 10x the cost and half the function.

[borkborkbork]

Originally Posted by Biff

Winnipeg is one of the only significant cities on the planet without a freeway of any kind. It is pretty amazing when you think of it.

Vancouver? No freeways. Hwy 1 is outside the city. And they're removing the Georgia and Dunsmuir Viaducts (which would have been part of the city's aborted freeway plan).

Montreal has them, but they're trying to dismantle, shrink, or reconfigure them...

[Biff]

Ok, yes technically there are no freeways in the City of Vancouver proper but come on...no one views Vancouver as just the area south of Stanley Park. The metro has freeways. And they have been in the process of expanding them over the last few years.

I agree there are a number of cities actively or planning to dismantle some of their downtown freeways, but most jurisdictions are expanding their current metro networks.

[borkborkbork]

Originally Posted by Biff

Ok, yes technically there are no freeways in the City of Vancouver proper but come on...no one views Vancouver as just the area south of Stanley Park. The metro has freeways. And they have been in the process of expanding them over the last few years.

I agree there are a number of cities actively or planning to dismantle some of their downtown freeways, but most jurisdictions are expanding their current metro networks.

If we're working on "things every other major city has", I'd really like them to do proper rapid transit first.

Even our single "rapid" transit transit line spends half of its route stuck in regular traffic and gets terribly bunched.