Broadway Corridor Updates

[Glow Fun City]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Well connected location near Broadway City Hall Station and lots of grocery stores nearby.
Agreed, parking isn't necessary.

Unless you ask CityHallWatch…

[giallo]

That tower is in such a prime spot.
If there were ever a new build that didn't need underground parking, this is it.

[logan5]

There are still going to be lots of tenants in that building who own cars, so they will end up taking up more street parking. It’s a bad idea to have zero parking for such large projects.

[teriyaki]

Agreed, zero parking is swinging the pendulum too far in my opinion.
Absolves the developer from having to provide and ultimately provide, at their cost an in-demand product (the demand will not be zero).

Would the residents that ultimately do need access to parking be left to fight for an increasingly sparse public good?

[Changing City]

The site is unusual, it's only 15m deep - so it's almost impossible to provide parking spaces. There are two underground floors for bike parking and building services.

[Migrant_Coconut]

If there's really so many tenants who need parking, the market will likely force incentives for the ones who don't.

Seeing as it's right on top of the M-Line, the C-Line and half a dozen bus routes though, I highly doubt they'll have a problem with that.

[Nouvellecosse]

Originally Posted by logan5

There are still going to be lots of tenants in that building who own cars, so they will end up taking up more street parking. It’s a bad idea to have zero parking for such large projects.

Originally Posted by teriyaki

Agreed, zero parking is swinging the pendulum too far in my opinion.
Absolves the developer from having to provide and ultimately provide, at their cost an in-demand product (the demand will not be zero).

Would the residents that ultimately do need access to parking be left to fight for an increasingly sparse public good?

Is there really such a shortage of units with parking on the market that people with cars have to buy into buildings without parking spaces? I'm pretty skeptical of that idea. If someone ultimately needs parking why would they buy there? Doesn't make any sense. Sounds to me that parking and car ownership have just become so normalized that anything different seems shocking and out of place to people. That doesn't mean it actually is.

And when developers include parking in a building they either they sell the parking spaces to the occupant meaning people have to pay thousands (often double digit thousands) to buy one, or it the spaces are subsidized by the occupants who don't need one which drives up prices for everyone. Obviously the developer isn't providing it "at their cost" as if it's some sort of charity.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

Is there really such a shortage of units with parking on the market that people with cars have to buy into buildings without parking spaces? I'm pretty skeptical of that idea. If someone ultimately needs parking why would they buy there? Doesn't make any sense. Sounds to me that parking and car ownership have just become so normalized that anything different seems shocking and out of place to people. That doesn't mean it actually is.

And when developers include parking in a building they either they sell the parking spaces to the occupant meaning people have to pay thousands (often double digit thousands) to buy one, or it the spaces are subsidized by the occupants who don't need one which drives up prices for everyone. Obviously the developer isn't providing it "at their cost" as if it's some sort of charity.

It's a proposed rental building. Developers of strata projects have tended to continue to include parking, where they can, but rental projects have seen more examples of very limited parking provision. Senakw is the biggest example of very limited parking being included in the project.

[officedweller]

Condo purchasers decide where and what features they want to buy.
If they need parking they'll buy a place with parking. If they need a place with spaces big enough for a truck, they'll do their due diligence and not buy presale. Likewise, I understand that Oakridge buyers get a lease of a parking space with no guarantee of renewal.

[jollyburger]

There's almost zero street parking that isn't metered or residents only in that area so most people who own a car won't even bother trying to street park (or they'll pay for a dedicated spot in another building).

I mean if it affects the marketability of the rental then they will drop rates instead of the developer eating the savings from building no parking/charging market rents.

[WarrenC12]

Free market in action, bring it on!

[gaviscon]

Found this. Not sure if it was already mentioned

[IMG]Screenshot (1145) by globalbusinesscentre105 H, on Flickr[/IMG]

https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/rezoning

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by gaviscon

Found this. Not sure if it was already mentioned

The application isn't accessible so it's probably new. The guy who found some plans in a dumpster for the PCI building at Granville saw it two months ago

https://x.com/sqwabb/status/2057948514731311251

[madog222]

Yeah, the rezoning applications occasionally pop up on the map early.

Building grades submission is from back in 2021.

[Feathered Friend]

It's not an active application, it was submitted in December 2024, and was pulled from POSSE back in 2025

1431 W Broadway - B.Plan - Application Recently Submitted. Staff preparing notification - To rezone from C3-A to CD-1 under the Broadway Plan to enable consideration of 23-storey mixed-use building with 149 strata residential units, office on levels two through five, and commercial retail on the ground floor. An FSR of 8.49 and a height of 230 ft. are proposed.

https://web.archive.org/web/202503060304...esentation=Guest&PosseObjectId=249423403

There's a story there I'm sure, but it's not mine to tell.

[mcj]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Free market in action, bring it on!

The project still has bike parking, another good reason to build bike lanes on Broadway, but we won't despite the clear future demand.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by mcj

The project still has bike parking, another good reason to build bike lanes on Broadway, but we won't despite the clear future demand.

I am in the camp that says we should improve 10th Ave instead.

[Feathered Friend]

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by mcj

... another good reason to build bike lanes on Broadway, but we won't despite the clear future demand.

Ken Sim's stupid political games aside, the 20k+ daily passengers on the 9 and 14 take priority. Bikes already have 7th and 10th.

[csbvan]

10th is a great bike street. They should definitely add more separated infrastructure along the 10th Ave corridor and have better connectivity down to Broadway (with bike racks), so that you can lock up and shop on Broadway (if Broadway ever improves...). I am OK with 10th being the bike priority street, so long as Broadway gains wider sidewalks and better pedestrian amenities.