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Old Posted Aug 13, 2026, 10:17 PM
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Interestingly, it's the same with the Guadeloupeans and Martinicans in Greater Paris. Their numbers are decreasing too. But how would you know, if you look only at "immigrants" from a legal point of view. You have two exact same phenomenons on both sides of the Channel, but you observe one and refuse to observe the other. Makes sense.
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The number of people born in Guadeloupe and Martinique and living in the Paris Region went from 157,958 at the 2015 census to 152,971 at the 2023 census.
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From the AskFrance subreddit, seems to be a pretty strong consensus that the overseas departments (not territories) are every bit as part of France as Paris and Marseille.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFrance/comments/vxx5pe/are_people_from_the_the_french_caribbean/

Also I'm sure isn't open-door migration between Jamaica and Britain, while there are no immigration restrictions for those from the overseas departments.

More analogous to Hawaii, a former colony that eventually became a subnational jurisdiction in the US.
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Old Posted Aug 13, 2026, 11:24 PM
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Foreign born in Madrid

Ecuador 89,800
Venezuela 76,004
Peru 64,013
Colombia 61,021
Dominican Republic 46,712
Romania 37,706
Mainland China 36,050
Morocco 32,741
Bolivia 29,142
Honduras 24,651
Paraguay 24,485
Argentina 23,074
Philippines 18,163
Cuba 18,000
Brazil 16,874
France 15,511
Mexico 11,575
United States 11,330
Italy 10,696
Ukraine 9,766
United Kingdom 8,333
Nicaragua 8,331
Germany 8,115
Portugal 7,631
Chile 6,954
Bangladesh 6,583
El Salvador 5,392

# 50000+: 4
# 20000+: 12
# 10000+: 19
# 5000+: 27

On Wikipedia, Barcelona only covers countries 14,000 or more. Barcelona also has far fewer Latin Americans than Madrid - not surprising given the use of Catalan.
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Old Posted Aug 13, 2026, 11:35 PM
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More analogous to Hawaii, a former colony that eventually became a subnational jurisdiction in the US.
This is not comparable at all. Hawaii lost its native population, the native Hawaiians are now only a small % of the population. More than 90% of Hawaii's population is no different from the 48 contiguous states: a melting pot of people from everywhere, more predominantly Asia in the case of Hawaii. Someone from Hawaii in LA or SF is undistinguishable from another American.

Martinique and Guadeloupe have kept their Creole populations, they have specific cultures, specific cuisines, even their own languages (Guadeloupe Creole and Guadeloupe Creole), and someone from Guadeloupe and Martinique in Paris certainly stick out, if only because of their accent.

Someone from Guadeloupe and Martinique in Paris is no different than someone from Jamaica in London or someone from Puerto Rico in New York. They have their own culture, their own language, their own cuisine, their own vibes, etc. Perhaps the guy from Puerto and the guy from Guadeloupe/Martinique is technically not an immigrant because he/she has US/French passport, but that's only a legal technicality. If you wouldn't know that legal technicality, there's no way you could tell when you met them. They would just appear to you as "Caribbeans in Paris/London/New York".
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Old Posted Aug 13, 2026, 11:40 PM
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Foreign born in Madrid

Ecuador 89,800
Venezuela 76,004
Peru 64,013
Colombia 61,021
Dominican Republic 46,712
Romania 37,706
Mainland China 36,050
Morocco 32,741
Bolivia 29,142
Honduras 24,651
Paraguay 24,485
Argentina 23,074
Philippines 18,163
Cuba 18,000
Brazil 16,874
France 15,511
Mexico 11,575
United States 11,330
Italy 10,696
Ukraine 9,766
United Kingdom 8,333
Nicaragua 8,331
Germany 8,115
Portugal 7,631
Chile 6,954
Bangladesh 6,583
El Salvador 5,392

# 50000+: 4
# 20000+: 12
# 10000+: 19
# 5000+: 27

On Wikipedia, Barcelona only covers countries 14,000 or more. Barcelona also has far fewer Latin Americans than Madrid - not surprising given the use of Catalan.
I already gave the figures for Madrid and Barcelona. They are much higher than that.

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The Spanish statistical office doesn't publish detailed foreign-born data at the metro area (FUA) level, but here are the results for the province of Madrid and the province of Barcelona, both of which approximate quite well the metro area.

Province of Barcelona:

Foreign-born population at the 2025 census: 1,492,633

Europe: 265,588
Middle East and North Africa: 205,780
Sub-Saharan Africa: 52,236
Asia: 189,719
Oceania: 1,892
US-Canada: 16,129
Latin America: 761,289

Number of countries with 20,000+ foreign-born: 21

- Morocco: 178,759
- Colombia: 115,183
- Argentina: 92,897
- Peru: 88,994
- Ecuador: 85,583
- Venezuela: 75,214
- Pakistan: 65,046
- Honduras: 56,930
- China: 51,044
- Bolivia: 46,026
- Dominican Republic: 41,966
- Italy: 34,812
- France: 34,193
- Brazil: 32,860
- Russia: 29,051
- India: 28,550
- Romania: 27,902
- Paraguay: 26,522
- Ukraine: 24,316
- Cuba: 21,674
- Chile: 21,541

Province of Madrid:

Foreign-born population at the 2025 census: 1,769,811

Europe: 306,278
Middle East and North Africa: 123,695
Sub-Sahara Africa: 41,336
Asia: 115,050
Oceania: 1,975
US-Canada: 23,187
Latin America: 1,158,290

Number of countries with 20,000+ foreign-born: 19

- Venezuela: 210,408
- Colombia: 199,760
- Peru: 164,786
- Ecuador: 140,794
- Romania: 111,309
- Morocco: 100,939
- Dominican Republic: 69,747
- Argentina: 65,320
- China: 56,812
- Honduras: 55,010
- Paraguay: 47,602
- Cuba: 42,236
- Bolivia: 40,202
- Brazil: 31,013
- Ukraine: 27,827
- France: 27,332
- Mexico: 27,259
- Philippines: 24,984
- USA: 21,233
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Germany generally uses "foreign residents" (i.e. noncitizens). While the figures most easily found for Belgium and the Netherlands are migrant origin vs. "native stock." So not directly comparable.
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# of countries with at least 5000 foreign born population

UK: London 90 (Greater London), 98 (London and Home Counties)
US: New York 94
Canada: Toronto 73
US: Los Angeles 56
Australia: Sydney 53
US: Washington 53
Canada: Montreal 50
Australia: Melbourne 48
US: Boston 44
US: Chicago 42
US: Miami 41
France: Paris 40 (some unlisted may be missing)
US: Houston 37
US: San Francisco 34
US: Atlanta 33
US: Dallas 33
Canada: Vancouver 33
US: Seattle 29
Spain: Barcelona 28
Australia: Brisbane 27
Spain: Madrid 27
US: Philadelphia 27
US: Tampa 22
Australia: Perth 21
UK: Birmingham 21
US: Detroit 20
US: Riverside 20
New Zealand: Auckland 19
US: Orlando 19
US: Minneapolis 18
US: San Diego 18
US: San Jose 18
US: Sacramento 17
US: Baltimore 16
Canada: Calgary 16
Canada: Ottawa 16
UK: Manchester 16
Canada: Edmonton 15
US: Austin 15
US: Denver 14
US: Las Vegas 14
US: Charlotte 13
US: Phoenix 13
US: Portland 12

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Old Posted Aug 14, 2026, 7:51 PM
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France: Paris 40 (some unlisted may be missing)
You mean many unlisted are missing. You can add at the very least a dozen more for Paris if we had a list with all the countries.

That's why it's essentially futile to go down to such detail. For countries with more than 50,000, we have all of them. For countries with more than 20,000, we're missing several of them for Paris. And for countries with more than 5,000, it's futile to even try to measure them since so many are missing.
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2026, 10:14 PM
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Barcelona (2025)

Argentina 49,789
Colombia 47,108
Peru 43,016
Venezuela 35,669
Pakistan 31,649
Ecuador 25,975
Morocco 24,931
Italy 24,732
Honduras 22,083
China 21,797
Brazil 17,476
Russia 15,615
Philippines 15,515
Bolivia 14,602
Dominican Republic 14,559
India 13,320
Chile 11,379
Mexico 10,532
United States 10,397
Bangladesh 10,366
Ukraine 10,030
United Kingdom 9,462
Germany 8,544
Paraguay 7,753
Cuba 7,323
Romania 6,476
Uruguay 5,525
Algeria 5,050

# 50000+: 0
# 20000+: 10
# 10000+: 21
# 5000+: 28

https://portaldades.ajuntament.barcelona.cat/ca/estad%C3%ADstiques/nl93s2aon7

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# of 20000+ FBCs (10 or more):

US: New York 48
UK: London 44
Canada: Toronto 29
France: Paris 29
US: Los Angeles 24
Australia: Sydney 23
US: Washington 20
US: Miami 18
Australia: Melbourne 17
Canada: Montreal 17
US: Houston 14
Australia: Brisbane 12
Australia: Perth 12
Spain: Madrid 12
US: San Francisco 12
US: Boston 11
US: Chicago 11
Canada: Vancouver 10
New Zealand: Auckland 10
Spain: Barcelona 10
US: Atlanta 10

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Paris is at least 34, not 29. What's the point of keeping posting and posting and posting the same fake figures?
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+ Washington, Dallas, and Houston.



In percentage of the total population:

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And here is the ranking, apples to apples, total number of foreign-born people. I'm also adding Boston and Atlanta. I think we have all the North American and European metro areas with more than 1 million foreign-born people here. Interestingly, Seattle (940,127 foreign-born) is under 1 million.

Number of foreign-born people (2021 British and Canadian censuses, 2023 French and Spanish censuses, ACS 5-year 2020-2024):
- New York MSA: 6,506,197
- Los Angeles-Riverside MSAs: 5,513,628
- London metro area (FUA): 4,152,774
- Toronto metro area (FUA): 3,385,210
- Paris Region: 3,360,561 (slightly smaller than the FUA; for the FUA it's probably ca. 3,409,000)
- Miami MSA: 2,841,933
- San Francisco-San Jose MSAs: 2,401,367
- Houston MSA: 1,939,483
- Chicago MSA: 1,884,527
- Washington MSA: 1,686,050
- Dallas MSA: 1,679,486
- Madrid metro area (FUA): 1,586,000
- Vancouver metro area (FUA): 1,253,215
- Montréal metro area (FUA): 1,236,430
- Barcelona metro area (FUA): 1,186,000
- Boston MSA: 1,098,695
- Atlanta MSA: 1,056,503
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Greater Dublin Area (2016)

Poland 33,751
United Kingdom 19,196
Romania 16,808
Lithuania 9,869
Brazil 8,903
Italy 6,834
India 6,546
Spain 6,341
Latvia 5,771
Mainland China 5,748
France 5,576

# 20000+: 1
# 10000+: 3
# 5000+: 11
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Greater Adelaide

Born outside Australia 434,090

United Kingdom 91,906
India 42,933
Mainland China 24,921
Vietnam 16,564
Italy 15,667
Philippines 12,826
New Zealand 10,238
Malaysia 8,509
Afghanistan 7,909
Germany 7,680
Greece 7,590
Nepal 7,055
South Africa 6,983
Pakistan 5,432
Iran 5,147

# 50000+: 1
# 20000+: 3
# 10000+: 7
# 5000+: 15
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What are the numbers for the Loire Valley and St. Pierre et Miquelon?
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Going back to something I said a while ago, I was at the gym tonight, pretty dead because the entire city is at the beaches completing their last week of vacations, and there was this Latin American trans (from Spanish-speaking Latin America, not from Brazil) who was speaking, in French, with a Japanese guy (who had a pretty strong Japanese accent). The rest of the few people there were either Maghreban, or Mediterranean/Latin American looking. And of course the supervisor was Black (but not Black immigrant, Black French, perhaps Caribbean).

Looks pretty international to me!

Obviously not what you would experience as a tourist spending 3 days in Paris. You have to live here to experience what the locals experience.

And the the Kabyle brothers who own the supermarket at the corner of my street (regular French supermarket, not an ethnic grocer) were selling fresh dates (from Egypt). Can't remember having ever seen any in either England or America. It's pretty rare in France too, so I bought some. It tastes very different from the dates you're used too. These ones are fresh from the tree, and very crunchy (or mellowy, depending on ripeness).

That's... fresh dates (to the left), in case you wonder:

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Metropolitan City of Milan (2025)

Born outside Italy 566,667

Egypt 75,404
Philippines 40,098
Peru 38,692
China 36,119
Romania 35,878
Albania 28,147
Ukraine 24,755
Morocco 22,227
Ecuador 20,766
Sri Lanka 18,744
Bangladesh 15,807
Brazil 13,056
El Salvador 12,058
Pakistan 11,478
Moldova 11,460
France 8,873
Russia 8,204
Senegal 7,300
Germany 7,164
Switzerland 5,971
United Kingdom 5,255
Tunisia 5,202
Argentina 5,120

# 50000+: 1
# 20000+: 9
# 10000+: 15
# 5000+: 23

Metropolitan City of Rome Capital (2025)

Born outside Italy 589,027

Romania 122,492
Bangladesh 38,578
Philippines 35,387
Ukraine 23,089
Egypt 20,951
Peru 19,537
Albania 19,311
India 18,087
China 16,575
Moldova 14,917
Poland 14,909
Brazil 11,022
Morocco 10,107
Sri Lanka 9,499
France 8,598
Germany 8,499
Tunisia 7,978
Nigeria 7,174
United Kingdom 7,024
United States 6,812
Colombia 6,848
Argentina 6,658
Spain 6,253
Switzerland 5,949
Ethiopia 5,920
Pakistan 5,896
Libya 5,839

# 50000+: 1
# 20000+: 5
# 10000+: 13
# 5000+: 27
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Data for the Netherlands is usually presented by migration background rather than country of birth. This was posted for Greater Amsterdam (2021) but no link to a primary source so not sure if this page is generally accurate.

https://www.facebook.com/100063614234778...llustrates-the-largest/1439600281503766/

The 3 largest countries of birth are Suriname, Morocco and Turkey.
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