CF Pacific Centre Developments

[griswold]

I'm guessing that hole in the TD building to the right is for mechanical? I wish more towers would build like this to hide all of that stuff instead of having it exposed and visible from the ground.

[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by griswold

I'm guessing that hole in the TD building to the right is for mechanical? I wish more towers would build like this to hide all of that stuff instead of having it exposed and visible from the ground.

...are they really visible 'from the ground'?

From the top of 30-40 or even 50 storey towers?

Most of the time you can only see those on towers from the vantage point of equally tall (or taller) towers...

...or from really far away from higher elevations.

Also, there's the fact that that is a bank tower.
They probably could afford to build the necessary extra penthouse structure to have it hidden.
If I'm building a tower and looking for places to cut costs and value-engineer to control the budget during construction, I imagine it's most likely going to be at the place that most people can't see......

....from the ground.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by griswold

I'm guessing that hole in the TD building to the right is for mechanical? I wish more towers would build like this to hide all of that stuff instead of having it exposed and visible from the ground.

Yes, all of the mechanical for 701 West Georgia (former IBM Tower) are enclosed in curtain wall in upper 2 storeys.
I suspect that's probably because it is so short and would be overlooked by the TD Tower, the Four Seasons and Stock Exchange Tower (as it was known).
The conical HVAC vents are farly new (maybe last 10 years). The previous fans were more flush.
In comparison, TD Tower has a mechanical penthouse box on its roof, as does the former Stock Exchange Tower (admittedly built much later).
The complex was origially designed by Cesar Pelli.
That said, most commercial office towers conceal HVAC and mechanical equipment somehow.

Pics by me today:

[officedweller]

By me today.

it's not a full height ceiling inside the entrance.

[officedweller]

By me today:

[RedArbutus]

Remind me again: they're not demolishing the whole thing right? Down to the 5th floor? I guess they're almost done.

[officedweller]

Not sure how much is left, but I figure they'll go to the podium roof since that's where the low ceiling'd hotel rooms end. I don't think they'd stop above that as it would limit future options and the top level of the podium would be the hotel ballroom etc so probably reworkable.

[madog222]

“To deconstruct the upper floors from top to level 5 of the hotel building on this site.”

[officedweller]

Hmm. I wonder where level 5 of the hotel building would be?
The old driveway lobby on Howe was between the lower mall and upper mall,
The checkin lobby /ballroom level was the same level as the old Holt Renfrew top floor (now H&M) - mall level 3.
I think there was an amenities level above that which opened onto the pool roof deck (level 4) - maybe that level had a higher ceiling.
If they keep the roof of that level 4, I guess that's the slab of level 5.
But if you look at the hotel alone, subtract 1 from each of those level numbers.

[jollyburger]

FWIW The 735 Granville CRU building permit has a $3 million dollar project value.

Simons 20 million.

[officedweller]

Maybe Nike and smaller footprint than I thought?
Nike would have a staircase and elevator, not escalators.
(based on Totonto Eaton Centre).