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Old Posted Aug 7, 2026, 2:39 AM
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Appears to be there Canadian base, which is awesome they chose Saint John. In case folks missed this from the recent past, OSO WATER from Norway based their Canadian HQ here in Saint John. Love to see more diversification.

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Old Posted Aug 7, 2026, 4:21 AM
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Appears to be there Canadian base, which is awesome they chose Saint John. In case folks missed this from the recent past, OSO WATER from Norway based their Canadian HQ here in Saint John. Love to see more diversification.

I hope my next rental from SJ Energy is an OSO unit, they seemed to be higher quality units compared to the ones many of us got to replace OSO units.

Do they make any water heaters here?
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Old Posted Aug 7, 2026, 9:57 AM
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I hope my next rental from SJ Energy is an OSO unit, they seemed to be higher quality units compared to the ones many of us got to replace OSO units.

Do they make any water heaters here?
No, sales & support. Our new one is OSO - it’s interesting because it super heats a smaller amount of water, then adds cold water on output to step it down to “normal temp” hot water - which is more efficient.
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Old Posted Aug 8, 2026, 1:38 PM
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222 Water St is being marketed

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Old Posted Aug 8, 2026, 1:47 PM
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I am glad they are continuing to market this; I think it has a lot of potential. I quite like all those concepts, although residential with ground-floor commercial is the most likely. Not a lot of foot traffic for most of the year, but a busy spot during cruise ship season.
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2026, 5:28 PM
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Seed Oil plant under construction McAllister Industrial Park

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Old Posted Aug 9, 2026, 5:30 PM
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Building 7 out of 11 Dunnet St

And nearby townhomes under construction

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Old Posted Aug 9, 2026, 5:37 PM
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I am glad they are continuing to market this; I think it has a lot of potential. I quite like all those concepts, although residential with ground-floor commercial is the most likely. Not a lot of foot traffic for most of the year, but a busy spot during cruise ship season.
I think foot traffic will continue to pick up with the new developments further into the South End and once people start moving into Fundy Quay just down the street. Even as it stands now the container village has really increased the number of pedestrians heading up and down Water St. most days.
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2026, 8:22 PM
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If Lafford builds 36 (or maybe 54) floors of residential that will be quite the book end to Fundy Quay. It's only reasonable to expect infill between the two.
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2026, 8:56 PM
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If Lafford builds 36 (or maybe 54) floors of residential that will be quite the book end to Fundy Quay. It's only reasonable to expect infill between the two.
It would be nice to do something where they originally planned the second condo building by the Three Sisters Lamp. Do the original developers still own that? Assessed for 180K .

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There is a new crematorium going next door to that development too.
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2026, 2:51 AM
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If Lafford builds 36 (or maybe 54) floors of residential that will be quite the book end to Fundy Quay. It's only reasonable to expect infill between the two.
Where are the people going to come from to live in these hundreds of new apartments?
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2026, 4:58 AM
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Where are the people going to come from to live in these hundreds of new apartments?
From international, across Canada, from provincial, from metro, from Saint John. The city already has the lowest vacancy rate in NB. There is a reason Hyatt has confidence in the city, because more major projects are almost certain, including conversion of Saint John LNG to an export facility and most importantly a new nuclear reactor which will drive a 10,000 + jump in population for over a decade.
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2026, 5:00 AM
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The new Tim Hortons coming to Saint John will be located at the new gas plaza at the Saint John airport.
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2026, 1:12 PM
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From international, across Canada, from provincial, from metro, from Saint John. The city already has the lowest vacancy rate in NB. There is a reason Hyatt has confidence in the city, because more major projects are almost certain, including conversion of Saint John LNG to an export facility and most importantly a new nuclear reactor which will drive a 10,000 + jump in population for over a decade.
We should also appreciate that Saint John's ability to absorb new rental units isn't unlimited. If the other three Fundy Quay buildings were magically brought into existence tomorrow, it would be a challenge to fill them, probably impossible. There have been a lot of new units on the market recently, and there is a lot more coming in the next year or two.

They are going to have to compete for tenants; in my opinion, people won't be throwing themselves at all these new builds. Case in point: 99 King is asking for $2K a month for a one-windowed, balconyless apartment with no parking. I wouldn't be surprised to see some free first month's rent or free internet bonuses thrown around or even price cuts.

I am not convinced the LNG export facility will ever happen, but there should be lots of opportunities coming up if Saint John is willing to take them on. We are starting to get to the other side of the student population surge of the last few years, and hopefully the population can return to a steady increase again.

Labour Force Statistics came out on Friday, and Saint John continued to excel.

Saint John's three-month rolling unemployment rate (adjusted for seasonality) hit a new recent low of just 5.2%. Joint second-lowest CMA outside of Quebec, behind only Victoria (which isn't comparable in my opinion). While Saint John has had unemployment levels similar to this for brief periods in the last decade, this sustained period is probably the strongest since 2017, when it is also compared to and significantly below the national unemployment rate, which is currently at 6.5%. Provincial unemployment is currently 7% for reference.

Moncton has been struggling recently with unemployment still elevated at 7.8%, and Fredericton is doing well at 5.8%.

However, the participation rate (people with a job + people looking for one) is a little scary, hitting an all-time low of 57.5% in January of this year, although it has recently recovered to 61.7%. The impending reality of our aging population. While this is a serious issue, I like to look at the positive: those of working age in the city will have plenty of opportunities, simply because half of the people won't be working.

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Old Posted Aug 10, 2026, 4:56 PM
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Looking at the 2025 financial report/audit and I thought I'd ask. Does anyone now why the LBR, Harbour Station, and SJAC all have separate boards? Wouldn't it make sense to consolidate them? These sporting facility-oriented boards make up 3/8 city commissions. Two of them are for the same sport, and two of them will eventually be included in the district energy system, and are minutes apart via pedway. You'd think we could get better outcomes and improved coordination with one board instead of three.

The library, TCC, industrial parks, power, and police commissions make sense as standalone entities, whether you think there's operational issues with any of them or not.
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2026, 5:28 PM
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Looking at the 2025 financial report/audit and I thought I'd ask. Does anyone now why the LBR, Harbour Station, and SJAC all have separate boards? Wouldn't it make sense to consolidate them? These sporting facility-oriented boards make up 3/8 city commissions. Two of them are for the same sport, and two of them will eventually be included in the district energy system, and are minutes apart via pedway. You'd think we could get better outcomes and improved coordination with one board instead of three.

The library, TCC, industrial parks, power, and police commissions make sense as standalone entities, whether you think there's operational issues with any of them or not.
Most of those were established decades ago by the City or by provincial legislation. Some are also embroiled in the RSC regional facilities model too, so they have separate accountability. It has been a topic of discussion in the past to merge some, or all of the City-owned regional facilities into a single oversight Board, or just pass that oversight onto the Regional Facilities Committee if they remain regionally-funded, but that will take a long while to happen even if there is a sensible reason for it all.
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2026, 6:04 PM
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From international, across Canada, from provincial, from metro, from Saint John. The city already has the lowest vacancy rate in NB. There is a reason Hyatt has confidence in the city, because more major projects are almost certain, including conversion of Saint John LNG to an export facility and most importantly a new nuclear reactor which will drive a 10,000 + jump in population for over a decade.
You don't even mention the Port and all of the development related there. The city is well position for substantial population growth over the next 20 years.
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2026, 6:37 PM
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Fundy CrossFit is up and running at Haymarket Square, and I saw them repairing the roof in the last few weeks. No encampment across the street this year, which is a bonus.

No sign of Jonesies yet; that seems to have been in the works for over a year now with no movement.
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2026, 10:46 PM
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Looking at the 2025 financial report/audit and I thought I'd ask. Does anyone now why the LBR, Harbour Station, and SJAC all have separate boards? Wouldn't it make sense to consolidate them? These sporting facility-oriented boards make up 3/8 city commissions. Two of them are for the same sport, and two of them will eventually be included in the district energy system, and are minutes apart via pedway. You'd think we could get better outcomes and improved coordination with one board instead of three.

The library, TCC, industrial parks, power, and police commissions make sense as standalone entities, whether you think there's operational issues with any of them or not.
District energy system? I'm intrigued; is there some information about this posted somewhere accessible?
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Old Posted Aug 11, 2026, 2:22 AM
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920 Fairville Blvd

68 apartments expected to break ground in about a month if all goes as planned
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