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https://media.amtrak.com/2026/06/amtrak-...ork-penn-station-transformation-project/

Amtrak and Penn Transformation Partners Sign Pre-Development Agreement for New York Penn Station Transformation Project


June 22, 2026


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mtrak and Penn Transformation Partners (PTP) today announced they have finalized a Pre-Development Agreement (PDA) for the historic overhaul of New York Penn Station. During the PDA phase, Amtrak, led by Special Advisor Andy Byford, and PTP, a joint venture led by Halmar and Skanska, will finalize the project’s design and gather stakeholder input, which will then inform and establish a firm, fixed price to deliver the work. The PDA marks a major milestone in transforming the busiest transit hub in the Western Hemisphere into a new world-class station. The project is moving ahead on schedule and will break ground by the end of 2027.

The PDA phase will run from summer 2026 through 2027, which will include Amtrak and PTP conducting robust community engagement and provide ample opportunities for public comment.

“The momentum continues to transform New York Penn Station, and having a renowned partner in PTP officially onboard ensures the project will progress even further and faster while maintaining our record of meeting all deadlines on schedule,” said Byford. “New Yorkers just experienced a Knicks championship right above the station and we are committed to giving them something to be equally proud of within the same building where a banner will be raised.”
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The transformation of Penn Station is estimated to cost between $7 billion and $8 billion, with the final costs determined during the PDA phase. Byford has stated there will be no fare hikes or surcharges passed on to NJ TRANSIT, MTA, or Amtrak riders to pay for this project. The project will be funded primarily through federal funding, private financing, and equity raised by PTP.

Though a final cost has not been determined, cost control measures are already in place. The PDA phase costs are strictly capped before the final construction price is locked in. This is why bidders were asked to submit specific financial metrics during the procurement process to ensure the project will deliver the best use of taxpayer investments. This process is consistent with major construction projects worldwide and in the United States.



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MTA chair calls Amtrak's Penn Station planning 'bizarre,' declines to join as partner


By Ramsey Khalifeh
Jun 23, 2026


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MTA Chair Janno Lieber on Monday dismissed an offer by Amtrak special adviser Andy Byford for the state authority to become a “fully involved” partner in the Trump administration’s reconstruction of Penn Station — saying the federal government’s oversight of the project has been "bizarre" and has “the appearance of impropriety.”
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Lieber’s response indicated the MTA was prepared to hold up the renewal project. He laid out several concerns about how Amtrak selected the “master developer” to oversee the work and how construction would affect Long Island Rail Road operations at Penn Station.

“The MTA’s Long Island Rail Road and the MTA’s subways carry two-thirds of the daily users of Penn Station,” Lieber wrote. “Even more important, the LIRR has a prepaid lease running for another 160 years (through 2186) that gives us approval rights for any construction within or affecting the northern half of the station.”

“Even alterations outside our space may not ‘unduly burden train operations’ or ‘affect the structural integrity’ of our leasehold,” he added.
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Byford has said the reconstruction would not affect Penn Station’s new Seventh Avenue entrance and 33rd Street concourse built under Lieber’s direction over the last decade. In his letter on Monday, Byford laid out multiple attempts to get the MTA to sign a “memorandum of agreement” on the project, noting that NJ Transit had already signed on.

Lieber wrote in his response that “there’s no point in rebutting all the blah-blah” about those discussions and said the MTA would stick to its long-standing lease agreement to run service in the train hall. He accused Byford and Amtrak of “gamesmanship” by releasing his initial letter to the public.
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Lieber also noted that the MTA is “of course open to engaging with Amtrak, but without conditions.”

“Our duty is to protect the interests of thousands of MTA riders at Penn Station — and those of New York state taxpayers, who Amtrak and your chosen developer keep mentioning as potential funders,” he wrote.
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mta is right to stay far away from this.

but lets not go off track here and lets stick with what is happening vs what is not.
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I’m still extremely dubious about the financing. It doesn’t add up.

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Lieber also noted that the MTA is “of course open to engaging with Amtrak, but without conditions.”

“Our duty is to protect the interests of thousands of MTA riders at Penn Station — and those of New York state taxpayers, who Amtrak and your chosen developer keep mentioning as potential funders,” he wrote.
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mta is right to stay far away from this.

but lets not go off track here and lets stick with what is happening vs what is not.
This plan is essentially the same as the MTA backed plan, with the exception of buying the theater for a new “grand” entrance on 8th Avenue. The MTA’s plan featured much more modest upgrades to the existing entrances on 8th Avenue. But so long as the FEDS pay for it, who cares? That ugly wall will be gone. As far as everything else goes, nothing changes. But the back and forth bad blood between both sides doesn’t help anything. We know who’s to blame, and won’t waste time here on it.
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Throwback to the time (maybe 20 years?) when the Garden was moving into the backside of the Farley Building, joining the new Moynihan terminal....



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I highly doubt that this will be built.

The Explainer: Why The Penn Station Project Is Getting All Messed Up, Again
After last week's Byford-Lieber letter exchange, it's hard to keep all these trains of thought on the right track. Fortunately for you, The Explainer is back.

By Dave Colon
12:03 AM EDT on June 29, 2026

https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2026/06/29/t...n-project-is-getting-all-messed-up-again

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But he [i.e., Byford] did say in no uncertain terms that the federal government would not pay the full cost of the project.
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If Byford is right, and the feds were lying about paying for this, then it won't happen, unless NJ Transit decides to pitch in.

The MTA isn't paying one cent on this. It has no utility for the MTA, and the feds already took it from the MTA and claimed they would pay for it. The MTA already fixed the LIRR concourse and built Moynihan Station. This project is all on the feds.
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Halmar's proposal is not ideal, but it’s pretty good. Washington should pay for 100 percent of it. However, since that’s not happening, this proposal will not be built.

MSG will be forced to move when its operating permit is not renewed.
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If Byford is right, and the feds were lying about paying for this, then it won't happen, unless NJ Transit decides to pitch in.

The MTA isn't paying one cent on this. It has no utility for the MTA, and the feds already took it from the MTA and claimed they would pay for it. The MTA already fixed the LIRR concourse and built Moynihan Station. This project is all on the feds.
It's happening, the FEDS can and will play for it, they will be forced to. Even when the state was in charge, the bulk of the funding was coming from the FEDS.
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^ well, its not like they were going to do it at rocket arena.

but having it at msg at the bigger than usual 4th of july events + the world cup i guess is rather odd timing.

trivia — apparantly this isnt the first mega pop star msg wedding.

sly stone did it in 1971 in front of 23k fans at one of his concerts.
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While this cosmetic project looks nice, and it's better than nothing, I really don't see it happening. There's no money for it. Further, when the amount of payments to the Dolans is finally revealed, the proverbial "sh.it will hit the fan" with a fury. I think that this will go nowhere, and MSG's operating permit simply won't be renewed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/10/opinion/penn-station-new-york-trump.html?searchResultPosition=1




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Nadler welcomed a remodeled transit hub while blasting the “secret” deliberations seemingly underway to determine who will foot the $8-billion bill. He criticized Amtrak for selecting the project’s developer without public input, and expressed concern over attempts in Congress to seize New York tax dollars to fund the project.

Nadler went even further in the Times piece to mention Amtrak official Andrew Byford by name, accusing the former MTA official of “only adding to the project’s opacity” by claiming that riders wouldn’t foot the bill for the rehab with higher fares on the one hand while acknowledging “that his word could not be taken as a promise” on the other. (The developer Amtrak picked for the project has already contradicted Byford’s claim.)
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I don’t see how train capacity will be augmented in any non-de minims manner since only a limited number of columns will come out.


https://abc7ny.com/amp/post/federal-stud...t-train-capacity-ease-crowding/19518596/
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I don’t see how train capacity will be augmented in any non-de minims manner since only a limited number of columns will come out.


https://abc7ny.com/amp/post/federal-stud...t-train-capacity-ease-crowding/19518596/
They might be including the Gateway Project w/Penn South in that number.
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They might be including the Gateway Project w/Penn South in that number.
I saw a recent interview with Byford, and he said there are no plans whatsoever to redevelop the block where Penn South was supposed to go. Further, the federal government doesn’t have funding for the $8 billion for the cosmetic upgrades. They certainly don’t have $20 billion for Penn South even if they wanted to build it.
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To those that thought this tyrant would actually forget about this...

Trump admin quietly revives crusade to slap his name on major NYC landmark: report

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...The New York Daily News reported that Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy sent a letter to Senate leadership on several committees on Wednesday that lists the renaming of New York Penn Station as part of the "administration priorities."

Duffy wrote that the Trump administration intends to "direct Amtrak to rename New York Penn Station," per the Daily News. The idea of Trump's name going on Penn Station has long been suggested, including in internal renderings of an overhaul showing "President Donald J. Trump" etched into marble.

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"I imagine you're asking, 'Is this going to be Trump Station?'" Duffy said. "I think that has a nice ring to it."

Hopefully his trial and imprisonment finally puts this to bed.
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Of course there's solace in knowing that 8 or 10 years from now it seems pretty preposterous that a disgraced and despised former leader both here and abroad would receive an honorary naming of anything let alone a train station in a city where he was nearly universally hated. People aren't really fans of that sort of thing.
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Trump admin quietly revives crusade to slap his name on major NYC landmark: report

He'll be long gone before this is completed. Which, again, is why politics should never be the driving factor behind these long term projects. They will outlast anyone.
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